Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

Magicfanatic82 · Post #2201 » by **Magicfanatic82** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:49 pm

Moving AG and 15 for just a pick also gives us room to move under the tax line. Still need to see Fourniers option.

AG trades have been discused for so long maybe he isnt the value we think as Magic fans.

I am all good with Edwards, Hayes, Deni or Haliburton.

MasterGMer · Post #2202 » by **MasterGMer** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:51 pm

Please don't let it be Devin Vessell. Dude is a 3D player with a low ceiling. It is just not intriguing enough. I'd be contend with Deni, Hayes and Edwards. I am all in on Edwards. Dude has star potential none of the rest have

Skin · Post #2203 » by **Skin** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:04 pm

RookieStar wrote:Yeah.. I agree.. our FO is as secretive as you can get about their decisions. Where would these "sources" get their info about all these rumors?

It would get leaked from the player's side, agent's side or the other teams in negotiations with the Magic. Magic can stay tight lipped but that doesn't mean everyone else isn't talking about it.

Nyce_1 · Post #2204 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:38 pm

MasterGMer wrote:Please don't let it be Devin Vessell. Dude is a 3D player with a low ceiling. It is just not intriguing enough. I'd be contend with Deni, Hayes and Edwards. I am all in on Edwards. Dude has star potential none of the rest have

I disagree on 3D projection for Vassell. I truly believe he can be more. He'll flourish off-ball and he'll grow into a really good on-ball player. He has the tools to develop with ball in his hands. High IQ, willing passer, and not afraid of the big shots.

I haven't even touched the defense.

Vassell is probably the only player I wouldn't mind losing AG for. Not only does he fit the mould but he compliments the other young players perfectly.

Fultz-Vassell-Isaac-Okeke-Bamba

Skin · Post #2205 » by **Skin** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:47 pm

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Skin · Post #2206 » by **Skin** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:51 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:Please don't let it be Devin Vessell. Dude is a 3D player with a low ceiling. It is just not intriguing enough. I'd be contend with Deni, Hayes and Edwards. I am all in on Edwards. Dude has star potential none of the rest have
I disagree on 3D projection for Vassell. I truly believe he can be more. He'll flourish off-ball and he'll grow into a really good on-ball player. He has the tools to develop with ball in his hands. High IQ, willing passer, and not afraid of the big shots.

I haven't even touched the defense.

Vassell is probably the only player I wouldn't mind losing AG for. Not only does he fit the mould but he compliments the other young players perfectly.

Fultz-Vassell-Isaac-Okeke-Bamba

Same I think he can be more too. The good thing is that 3D is his floor.

I think we would need a more dynamic scoring 3 than Isaac or Okeke though.

Fultz-Vassell-McDaniels-Isaac-Bamba

The Real Dalic · Post #2207 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:58 pm

I feel like we shouldn't be shopping our 15th pick. I'd rather add in Bamba or accept not getting a pick that's too much higher than 15 in order to keep the 15th pick while adding another one. I would like to see us have two chances to pick players we like and gamble on. Just feels like it would be better, imo.

Xatticus · Post #2208 » by **Xatticus** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:02 am

The Real Dalic wrote:I feel like we shouldn't be shopping our 15th pick. I'd rather add in Bamba or accept not getting a pick that's too much higher than 15 in order to keep the 15th pick while adding another one. I would like to see us have two chances to pick players we like and gamble on. Just feels like it would be better, imo.

Bamba is a player our front office liked and gambled on with a much higher pick in a much better draft.

Ducklett · Post #2209 » by **Ducklett** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:12 am

Who at 7-10 is so much better than Nesmith that we need to trade up for them? o.O

shadrock · Post #2210 » by **shadrock** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:28 am

Ducklett wrote:Who at 7-10 is so much better than Nesmith that we need to trade up for them? o.O

Surely AG and 15 gets us to the top 3 of this draft right? Anything less would be a fleecing.

The Real Dalic · Post #2211 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:33 am

Xatticus wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:I feel like we shouldn't be shopping our 15th pick. I'd rather add in Bamba or accept not getting a pick that's too much higher than 15 in order to keep the 15th pick while adding another one. I would like to see us have two chances to pick players we like and gamble on. Just feels like it would be better, imo.

Bamba is a player our front office liked and gambled on with a much higher pick in a much better draft.

True, but even when he's been at his best, I don't like him enough to not gamble on someone else. But I've also been against him on the team since he was drafted. So there's definitely a bias there. But I would still just trade AG for a pick and a player, even if that pick was the 14th pick. I'd try to keep the 15th unless we get a top 3 pick back. Which probably won't be happening.

Nyce_1 · Post #2212 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:36 am

Skin wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:Please don't let it be Devin Vessell. Dude is a 3D player with a low ceiling. It is just not intriguing enough. I'd be contend with Deni, Hayes and Edwards. I am all in on Edwards. Dude has star potential none of the rest have
I disagree on 3D projection for Vassell. I truly believe he can be more. He'll flourish off-ball and he'll grow into a really good on-ball player. He has the tools to develop with ball in his hands. High IQ, willing passer, and not afraid of the big shots.

I haven't even touched the defense.

Vassell is probably the only player I wouldn't mind losing AG for. Not only does he fit the mould but he compliments the other young players perfectly.

Fultz-Vassell-Isaac-Okeke-Bamba

Same I think he can be more too. The good thing is that 3D is his floor.

I think we would need a more dynamic scoring 3 than Isaac or Okeke though.

Fultz-Vassell-McDaniels-Isaac-Bamba

Lol. I can be excited about Mcdaniel. Not all the way there....yet.

RookieStar · Post #2213 » by **RookieStar** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:44 am

Skin wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Yeah.. I agree.. our FO is as secretive as you can get about their decisions. Where would these "sources" get their info about all these rumors?

It would get leaked from the player's side, agent's side or the other teams in negotiations with the Magic. Magic can stay tight lipped but that doesn't mean everyone else isn't talking about it.

Yeah i get that from the other team's side. LOL i just think its jumping to conclusion unless our org really was putting up a sale and advertising to every lotto team for AG+15... but then again, with our FO... who knows

fendilim · Post #2214 » by **fendilim** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:47 am

shadrock wrote:
Ducklett wrote:Who at 7-10 is so much better than Nesmith that we need to trade up for them? o.O

Surely AG and 15 gets us to the top 3 of this draft right? Anything less would be a fleecing.

Lol apparently we cant even get oubre for ag, getting a top 3 pick would be a farther reach.

Skin · Post #2215 » by **Skin** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:00 am

The Real Dalic wrote:I feel like we shouldn't be shopping our 15th pick. I'd rather add in Bamba or accept not getting a pick that's too much higher than 15 in order to keep the 15th pick while adding another one. I would like to see us have two chances to pick players we like and gamble on. Just feels like it would be better, imo.

Same. I would like to keep the pick. Hope they can get creative and still get something done. I'd give it up for Edwards though.

Skin · Post #2216 » by **Skin** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:16 am

Ducklett wrote:Who at 7-10 is so much better than Nesmith that we need to trade up for them? o.O

Maybe the guy they want to trade up for IS Nesmith. I don't see him being available at 15.

Ducklett · Post #2217 » by **Ducklett** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:24 am

Skin wrote:
Ducklett wrote:Who at 7-10 is so much better than Nesmith that we need to trade up for them? o.O

Maybe the guy they want to trade up for IS Nesmith. I don't see him being available at 15.

You may very well be correct, but most of the mocks and draft heads think he should be there at 15ish.

Skin · Post #2218 » by **Skin** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:43 am

Ducklett wrote:
Skin wrote:
Ducklett wrote:Who at 7-10 is so much better than Nesmith that we need to trade up for them? o.O

Maybe the guy they want to trade up for IS Nesmith. I don't see him being available at 15.

You may very well be correct, but most of the mocks and draft heads think he should be there at 15ish.

Who are you following? Outside of the Ringer, everyone seems to have him in the lottery.

Magicfanatic82 · Post #2219 » by **Magicfanatic82** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:47 am

So in person workouts have been
Vassell, Hampton, Mannion
Anyone else?

yoyojw17 · Post #2220 » by **yoyojw17** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:51 am

Xatticus wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:I feel like we shouldn't be shopping our 15th pick. I'd rather add in Bamba or accept not getting a pick that's too much higher than 15 in order to keep the 15th pick while adding another one. I would like to see us have two chances to pick players we like and gamble on. Just feels like it would be better, imo.

Bamba is a player our front office liked and gambled on with a much higher pick in a much better draft.

and catered to giving the time to develop.... there is no way they will give up on him without giving him a fair try.... as swole bamba without covid side effects. lol

but i agree with Real... that i would love to keep the 15th as something else of value could drop.

lol... I'm still crossing fingers and toes for atlanta's 6th and reddish... for AG. make it happen! #wishfulthinking

What kind of player do you think we need most?