Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[Prokorov]

Jrue and Turner being obvious upgrades doesn’t change the hilariousness of overrating Kemba as they did. Especially, if he does get flipped in only one year with the Celtics.

The question you must ask yourself:

Dinwiddie, LeVert, Allen for Jrue or allow him to go to Boston with Turner?

I’d be okay with passing if it takes that level of a haul to intercept the Celtics.

i make that trade in a second regardless of boston.

i still think people are overating our assets and criminally under rating jrue

[MrDollarBills]

OT: We need to prepare for the Chet Holmgren and Emoni Bates draft classes as we continue to sustainability.

Dealing 2022 and 2023 picks cannot happen unless it’s for a Harden level deal. This Holmgren kid is legit.

Both of them are frightening talents. Holmgren is 7'0 with guard skills and Bates is 6'9 and probably breaks past 6'10+ by the time he hits 21. The next generation is coming and the game is going to change quickly.

[Paradise]

OT: We need to prepare for the Chet Holmgren and Emoni Bates draft classes as we continue to sustainability.

Dealing 2022 and 2023 picks cannot happen unless it’s for a Harden level deal. This Holmgren kid is legit.

Emoni Bates is the next generational scorer closely behind Chet Holmgren.

Again, unless it’s a REALLY big game changing trade like Harden or Beal. We must keep our 2022/2023/2024 draft picks.

I don’t see any deal that should impose on our ability to poach talent in the greatest draft class since 2003. Cunningham, Mikey
Williams, Holmgren, Bates, J. Green, J. Hardy will be the next generation NBA superstars. Throw in Porter Jr, Zion and Luka.

I’m confident we could develop another borderline all-star like Dinwiddie if we get Bane, Anthony or Smith. Plus, developing Claxton.

I want to contend without being the Rockets or Clippers. Keeping draft flexibility around KD, Kyrie will keep longevity.

All of that is expected to coalesce with the 2022 draft, as savvy NBA teams have already positioned their franchises to exploit a draft with unprecedented depth. Atlanta, Brooklyn, Cleveland, Memphis, New Orleans and Oklahoma City are positioned for multiple first-round picks, pending the complications from pick protections. (Oklahoma City could have as many as three first-round picks, provided they stay in the lottery and depending where Denver finishes.)

“I’ve been telling NBA teams for two years: Get as many 2022 picks as you can,” said an industry source plugged into the grassroots level. “You have two classes worth of guys who are going to be in there. If you get the 25th pick in the draft, you get a kid who would have been a lottery pick the following year.”

[MrDollarBills]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

[drchaos]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

While this seems the opposite of what we will actually do it might not be a bad idea to look for our third star in the top half of this draft.

One player that has the potential to bring a lot of what we need is Deni Avdija.

He looks like everything we hoped Musa could be.

Assuming that Phoenix or Detroit would give up their # 1 pick for Dinwiddie, Allen, and whatever else we need to throw in (Musa, # 19, additional picks) we add another player with top talent while keeping our salary cap under control.

Using the MLE to grab a backup center would be a much easier task than trying to find another player that inexpensive who could also find playing time on our roster.

Thoughts?

[Prokorov]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

I think harden has shown significantly better ability to play with other high volume stars as compared to beal. beal played to 1 other high usage player (Wall) who is no where close to the type of usage of a guy like westbrook, Paul, or Durant + westrbook.

I mean next to Chris paul Harden won 65 games (best record in the NBA) and took the curry/durant/klay warriors to 7 games and may have won if Paul wasnt hurt for game 7. a 4th place in the west (top 6 in the NBA) finishes next to westbrook.

Paul/Harden were the #1 offense in 17-18
Paul/Harden were the #2 offense in 18-19
Westbrook/Harden were the #5 offense in 19-20

I dont see strong evidence that Harden struggles next to other high use players. I dont see strong evidence high usage players struggle next to harden and i dont see evidence that harden + other high usage stars is not a winning formula. There is alot more evidence for Beal in that regard as the team was not very successful with wall/beal even in a weak east and Beal only really broke out once wall got hurt.

[MrDollarBills]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

I think harden has shown significantly better ability to play with other high volume stars as compared to beal. beal played to 1 other high usage player (Wall) who is no where close to the type of usage of a guy like westbrook, Paul, or Durant + westrbook.

I mean next to Chris paul Harden won 65 games (best record in the NBA) and took the curry/durant/klay warriors to 7 games and may have won if Paul wasnt hurt for game 7. a 4th place in the west (top 6 in the NBA) finishes next to westbrook.

Paul/Harden were the #1 offense in 17-18
Paul/Harden were the #2 offense in 18-19
Westbrook/Harden were the #5 offense in 19-20

I dont see strong evidence that Harden struggles next to other high use players. I dont see strong evidence high usage players struggle next to harden and i dont see evidence that harden + other high usage stars is not a winning formula. There is alot more evidence for Beal in that regard as the team was not very successful with wall/beal even in a weak east and Beal only really broke out once wall got hurt.

Where is your evidence that Harden can function off the ball or without posting a 40% usage rate? That's my main concern. I know that the guy is amazing. I just don't see how it works if KD and Kyrie have to stand around watching this guy dribble the clock down for late in the clock passes or driving for flop calls that he won't be getting in the playoffs. He hasn't had to adapt his game in nearly a decade to accommodate other people, and he's not like Lebron who is active away from the ball on open backdoor cuts and post ups, when the ball isn't in his hands he just stands around. How does this situation work exactly?

[MrDollarBills]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

While this seems the opposite of what we will actually do it might not be a bad idea to look for our third star in the top half of this draft.

One player that has the potential to bring a lot of what we need is Deni Avdija.

He looks like everything we hoped Musa could be.

Assuming that Phoenix or Detroit would give up their # 1 pick for Dinwiddie, Allen, and whatever else we need to throw in (Musa, # 19, additional picks) we add another player with top talent while keeping our salary cap under control.

Using the MLE to grab a backup center would be a much easier task than trying to find another player that inexpensive who could also find playing time on our roster.

Thoughts?

I don't think that the Nets can afford to gamble on a draft pick at this point. we need win now players.

[GTR11]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

I'm willing to take a chance to be honest. His very durable and can dominate game. I just don't trust Kyrie to stay healthy, plus load management.

[drchaos]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

While this seems the opposite of what we will actually do it might not be a bad idea to look for our third star in the top half of this draft.

One player that has the potential to bring a lot of what we need is Deni Avdija.

He looks like everything we hoped Musa could be.

Assuming that Phoenix or Detroit would give up their # 1 pick for Dinwiddie, Allen, and whatever else we need to throw in (Musa, # 19, additional picks) we add another player with top talent while keeping our salary cap under control.

Using the MLE to grab a backup center would be a much easier task than trying to find another player that inexpensive who could also find playing time on our roster.

Thoughts?

I don't think that the Nets can afford to gamble on a draft pick at this point. we need win now players.

Like I said it seems very unlikely.

I would be impressed if Marks did something like this when no one else expects it.

If Avdija pans out we would be in a much better position regarding the luxury tax.

That flexibility would make it easier to make trades over the next three years to better manage our roster.

The trick would be telling KD and Kyrie that their patience would pay off in the end.

[Prokorov]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

I think harden has shown significantly better ability to play with other high volume stars as compared to beal. beal played to 1 other high usage player (Wall) who is no where close to the type of usage of a guy like westbrook, Paul, or Durant + westrbook.

I mean next to Chris paul Harden won 65 games (best record in the NBA) and took the curry/durant/klay warriors to 7 games and may have won if Paul wasnt hurt for game 7. a 4th place in the west (top 6 in the NBA) finishes next to westbrook.

Paul/Harden were the #1 offense in 17-18
Paul/Harden were the #2 offense in 18-19
Westbrook/Harden were the #5 offense in 19-20

I dont see strong evidence that Harden struggles next to other high use players. I dont see strong evidence high usage players struggle next to harden and i dont see evidence that harden + other high usage stars is not a winning formula. There is alot more evidence for Beal in that regard as the team was not very successful with wall/beal even in a weak east and Beal only really broke out once wall got hurt.

Where is your evidence that Harden can function off the ball or without posting a 40% usage rate? That's my main concern. I know that the guy is amazing. I just don't see how it works if KD and Kyrie have to stand around watching this guy dribble the clock down for late in the clock passes or driving for flop calls that he won't be getting in the playoffs. He hasn't had to adapt his game in nearly a decade to accommodate other people, and he's not like Lebron who is active away from the ball on open backdoor cuts and post ups, when the ball isn't in his hands he just stands around. How does this situation work exactly?

He want from being the only option to being next to an extremely high usage/ball dominant players in the league in chris paul and they won 65 games and posted the #1 offense. if that is not evidence i dont know what is. He also has played with KD/Kyrie on team USA and next to russ and KD in OKC.

what evidence is there for beal?

there is quite literally 0 evidence he cant function next to other stars with at least some evidence that he can. most importantly, regardless of who you put around harden, he has enormous impact and has made his team a top 5 NBA team regardless of who is next to him.

[Prokorov]

While this seems the opposite of what we will actually do it might not be a bad idea to look for our third star in the top half of this draft.

One player that has the potential to bring a lot of what we need is Deni Avdija.

He looks like everything we hoped Musa could be.

Assuming that Phoenix or Detroit would give up their # 1 pick for Dinwiddie, Allen, and whatever else we need to throw in (Musa, # 19, additional picks) we add another player with top talent while keeping our salary cap under control.

Using the MLE to grab a backup center would be a much easier task than trying to find another player that inexpensive who could also find playing time on our roster.

Thoughts?

I don't think that the Nets can afford to gamble on a draft pick at this point. we need win now players.

Like I said it seems very unlikely.

I would be impressed if Marks did something like this when no one else expects it.

If Avdija pans out we would be in a much better position regarding the luxury tax.

That flexibility would make it easier to make trades over the next three years to better manage our roster.

The trick would be telling KD and Kyrie that their patience would pay off in the end.

huge pass on this. its been 20 years since we had top 5 talent and realistic shot at the finals. and not since the ABA a top 3 player and real legit shot to win it all. we may NEVER get a player as good as KD again

im not saying go billy king nuclear but every move needs to be a win now move.

[Prokorov]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

I think harden has shown significantly better ability to play with other high volume stars as compared to beal. beal played to 1 other high usage player (Wall) who is no where close to the type of usage of a guy like westbrook, Paul, or Durant + westrbook.

I mean next to Chris paul Harden won 65 games (best record in the NBA) and took the curry/durant/klay warriors to 7 games and may have won if Paul wasnt hurt for game 7. a 4th place in the west (top 6 in the NBA) finishes next to westbrook.

Paul/Harden were the #1 offense in 17-18
Paul/Harden were the #2 offense in 18-19
Westbrook/Harden were the #5 offense in 19-20

I dont see strong evidence that Harden struggles next to other high use players. I dont see strong evidence high usage players struggle next to harden and i dont see evidence that harden + other high usage stars is not a winning formula. There is alot more evidence for Beal in that regard as the team was not very successful with wall/beal even in a weak east and Beal only really broke out once wall got hurt.

Oh also... the "harden doesnt show up in the playoffs" thing is also a huge myth. He played poorly in 2 huge game 7's vs. elite teams. I realize those game 7's were huge games. but lets consider he has played 123 other playoff games at an elite level. and got his teams deep in the playoffs year after year.

[drchaos]

I don't think that the Nets can afford to gamble on a draft pick at this point. we need win now players.

Like I said it seems very unlikely.

I would be impressed if Marks did something like this when no one else expects it.

If Avdija pans out we would be in a much better position regarding the luxury tax.

That flexibility would make it easier to make trades over the next three years to better manage our roster.

The trick would be telling KD and Kyrie that their patience would pay off in the end.

huge pass on this. its been 20 years since we had top 5 talent and realistic shot at the finals. and not since the ABA a top 3 player and real legit shot to win it all. we may NEVER get a player as good as KD again

im not saying go billy king nuclear but every move needs to be a win now move.

That is something Billy King would say.

[Hello Brooklyn]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

No way.

Harden is a top 5 player in the league. Beal is not in his stratosphere. He put up great stats on a terrible team. Congrats.

Also what has Beal ever done in the playoffs? Lose in the 2nd round once lol. At least Harden came close to beating the Ws in the WCF.

[Hello Brooklyn]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

I think harden has shown significantly better ability to play with other high volume stars as compared to beal. beal played to 1 other high usage player (Wall) who is no where close to the type of usage of a guy like westbrook, Paul, or Durant + westrbook.

I mean next to Chris paul Harden won 65 games (best record in the NBA) and took the curry/durant/klay warriors to 7 games and may have won if Paul wasnt hurt for game 7. a 4th place in the west (top 6 in the NBA) finishes next to westbrook.

Paul/Harden were the #1 offense in 17-18
Paul/Harden were the #2 offense in 18-19
Westbrook/Harden were the #5 offense in 19-20

I dont see strong evidence that Harden struggles next to other high use players. I dont see strong evidence high usage players struggle next to harden and i dont see evidence that harden + other high usage stars is not a winning formula. There is alot more evidence for Beal in that regard as the team was not very successful with wall/beal even in a weak east and Beal only really broke out once wall got hurt.

Oh also... the "harden doesnt show up in the playoffs" thing is also a huge myth. He played poorly in 2 huge game 7's vs. elite teams. I realize those game 7's were huge games. but lets consider he has played 123 other playoff games at an elite level. and got his teams deep in the playoffs year after year.

Who cares if he doesn't play up to his standards in the playoffs???

We already have KD AND Kyrie.

[MGrand15]

I think harden has shown significantly better ability to play with other high volume stars as compared to beal. beal played to 1 other high usage player (Wall) who is no where close to the type of usage of a guy like westbrook, Paul, or Durant + westrbook.

I mean next to Chris paul Harden won 65 games (best record in the NBA) and took the curry/durant/klay warriors to 7 games and may have won if Paul wasnt hurt for game 7. a 4th place in the west (top 6 in the NBA) finishes next to westbrook.

Paul/Harden were the #1 offense in 17-18
Paul/Harden were the #2 offense in 18-19
Westbrook/Harden were the #5 offense in 19-20

I dont see strong evidence that Harden struggles next to other high use players. I dont see strong evidence high usage players struggle next to harden and i dont see evidence that harden + other high usage stars is not a winning formula. There is alot more evidence for Beal in that regard as the team was not very successful with wall/beal even in a weak east and Beal only really broke out once wall got hurt.

Where is your evidence that Harden can function off the ball or without posting a 40% usage rate? That's my main concern. I know that the guy is amazing. I just don't see how it works if KD and Kyrie have to stand around watching this guy dribble the clock down for late in the clock passes or driving for flop calls that he won't be getting in the playoffs. He hasn't had to adapt his game in nearly a decade to accommodate other people, and he's not like Lebron who is active away from the ball on open backdoor cuts and post ups, when the ball isn't in his hands he just stands around. How does this situation work exactly?

He want from being the only option to being next to an extremely high usage/ball dominant players in the league in chris paul and they won 65 games and posted the #1 offense. if that is not evidence i dont know what is. He also has played with KD/Kyrie on team USA and next to russ and KD in OKC.

what evidence is there for beal?

there is quite literally 0 evidence he cant function next to other stars with at least some evidence that he can. most importantly, regardless of who you put around harden, he has enormous impact and has made his team a top 5 NBA team regardless of who is next to him.

I think the difficulty of mixing high usage guys is WAY overblown if everyone can shoot. He's 41% on catch and shoot 3s. Teams never leave him open. Harden was so dominant this year that teams were just straight throwing doubles at him 35 feet away from the basket. That's just murder with KD + Kyrie on the floor.

I think one thing people miss about the Rockets/Harden style of play is that it really developed that way because of how Harden destroys defenses. He used to run a million PNRs per game. Teams figured out no matter how they guarded it, Harden was scoring or he'd find someone for an open dunk or 3. Teams learned to switch everything. That forced Harden into the ridiculous amount of isos. As ugly as the style of play was, surrounded by bad shooting and mediocre scorers, he turned that into an elite offense. We'd be in a TOTALLY different situation.

Harden's an elite shooter + elite passer + elite finisher + elite at drawing fouls. He can play next to anyone in any offensive system. Even if he doesn't move without the ball or whatever, teams stay attached. That gives Kyrie + KD room to work. He'd have to sacrifice a lot more than he did with CP3 but I'd let Nash handle that.

[MrDollarBills]

If we are going to add a 3rd star, I would prefer Beal over Harden. Harden cannot function with KD and Kyrie, if the guy can't play with Westbrook and CP3 what would we expect to happen here.

He's not worth the cost and he disappears in the playoffs when things get hot. Great individual player, but I would rather bring in someone who can play off of our Big 2 and can function without having a ridiculous usage rate

I think harden has shown significantly better ability to play with other high volume stars as compared to beal. beal played to 1 other high usage player (Wall) who is no where close to the type of usage of a guy like westbrook, Paul, or Durant + westrbook.

I mean next to Chris paul Harden won 65 games (best record in the NBA) and took the curry/durant/klay warriors to 7 games and may have won if Paul wasnt hurt for game 7. a 4th place in the west (top 6 in the NBA) finishes next to westbrook.

Paul/Harden were the #1 offense in 17-18
Paul/Harden were the #2 offense in 18-19
Westbrook/Harden were the #5 offense in 19-20

I dont see strong evidence that Harden struggles next to other high use players. I dont see strong evidence high usage players struggle next to harden and i dont see evidence that harden + other high usage stars is not a winning formula. There is alot more evidence for Beal in that regard as the team was not very successful with wall/beal even in a weak east and Beal only really broke out once wall got hurt.

Oh also... the "harden doesnt show up in the playoffs" thing is also a huge myth. He played poorly in 2 huge game 7's vs. elite teams. I realize those game 7's were huge games. but lets consider he has played 123 other playoff games at an elite level. and got his teams deep in the playoffs year after year.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-hardens-disappearing-act-in-another-playoff-fourth-quarter-is-so-on-brand-its-painful-to-watch/

It is one thing to be an exceptionally great player. It is something else entirely to channel and tap into that greatness in the exceptionally important and pressure-filled moments of the NBA playoffs.

That reality -- and the stark gulf between greatness in the moment, and greatness overwhelmed by it -- was on vivid display Thursday night in the Lakers' 110-100 win over the Houston Rockets to put them up 3-1 in the second-round playoff series.

On one end of this equation, behold LeBron James: Even with a mild 16 points, 15 rebounds and nine assists he was the quintessential winner, and his team followed suit.

On the other, see James Harden: 2 of 11, a misleading 21 points on the night, most coming at the free-throw line, as the Beard braved literally nothing in a fourth quarter in which he did not take a single shot.

Not one. Not one field-goal attempt.

On the one hand, quiet excellence. On the other, silent abdication.

So we know this now: Harden is no playoff hero, and he's unlikely ever to be. He has simply failed, so many times, to turn these biggest of basketball moments into anything other than disappointment. As Kevin O'Connor at The Ringer pointed out before the Rockets had even bested the Thunder in the first round, over the past five years Harden has shot less than 25 percent from the 3-point line in playoff fourth quarters and overtimes.

I don't think it's a myth at all...we've seen multiple times where Harden has just flat out given up.

[MrDollarBills]

Where is your evidence that Harden can function off the ball or without posting a 40% usage rate? That's my main concern. I know that the guy is amazing. I just don't see how it works if KD and Kyrie have to stand around watching this guy dribble the clock down for late in the clock passes or driving for flop calls that he won't be getting in the playoffs. He hasn't had to adapt his game in nearly a decade to accommodate other people, and he's not like Lebron who is active away from the ball on open backdoor cuts and post ups, when the ball isn't in his hands he just stands around. How does this situation work exactly?

He want from being the only option to being next to an extremely high usage/ball dominant players in the league in chris paul and they won 65 games and posted the #1 offense. if that is not evidence i dont know what is. He also has played with KD/Kyrie on team USA and next to russ and KD in OKC.

what evidence is there for beal?

there is quite literally 0 evidence he cant function next to other stars with at least some evidence that he can. most importantly, regardless of who you put around harden, he has enormous impact and has made his team a top 5 NBA team regardless of who is next to him.

I think the difficulty of mixing high usage guys is WAY overblown if everyone can shoot. He's 41% on catch and shoot 3s. Teams never leave him open. Harden was so dominant this year that teams were just straight throwing doubles at him 35 feet away from the basket. That's just murder with KD + Kyrie on the floor.

I think one thing people miss about the Rockets/Harden style of play is that it really developed that way because of how Harden destroys defenses. He used to run a million PNRs per game. Teams figured out no matter how they guarded it, Harden was scoring or he'd find someone for an open dunk or 3. Teams learned to switch everything. That forced Harden into the ridiculous amount of isos. As ugly as the style of play was, surrounded by bad shooting and mediocre scorers, he turned that into an elite offense. We'd be in a TOTALLY different situation.

Harden's an elite shooter + elite passer + elite finisher + elite at drawing fouls. He can play next to anyone in any offensive system. Even if he doesn't move without the ball or whatever, teams stay attached. That gives Kyrie + KD room to work. He'd have to sacrifice a lot more than he did with CP3 but I'd let Nash handle that.

That's true regarding the fact that everyone can shoot.

My main concern, can he adapt his game to accommodate the playing style of two other superstar talents? We saw him do that in OKC when he was a kid, but he was also coming off of the bench. He's a totally different player now in terms of mindset. He doesn't take criticism from his peers very well (dude cussed out CP3, I don't want to really add another personality to the mix that the staff may have to bend over backwards for).

He didn't sacrifice anything playing with CP3. I wouldn't call a 40% usage rate sacrifice...the offense was still Harden pounding the air out of the ball while everyone watched, and now with what happened with Westbrook this is the 2nd straight year that a star player has demanded a trade out of Houston. At some point you have to question why can't anyone of significant talent play with this guy.

[Brooklyn91]

If we are giving up depth for a “3rd star” I would like it to be a actual star lol. But fit is obviously of an importance. Not sure of Kyrie harden and KD on the same floor. It will be interesting if that were to happen though I doubt harden ends up here