2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go

[3toheadmelo]

He's diet Lowry, not as good of a creator/finisher, but that's really who his game resembles the most, especially on defense.


If we draft Hayes, signing FVV would be a perfect compliment.

He’s not bad but he’s not an ideal option for a trash rebuilding team like the Knicks. He’s about to turn 27 years old and he’s not a good first option. That’s what he’s gonna be when he’s on the Knicks. Let him go somewhere else.

Why would he be the first option here? That is clearly going to be RJ, and if we draft someone like Hayes he would ultimately grow into our second option. 27 isn't old, the Raptors traded for Lowry when he was 26, the Celtics signed Horford and made him their highest paid player when he was 30. He would bring stability to our team, and help at a position we need, there's no wondering about what he is or can be, and he can fit with multiple ball handlers.

Hayes not gonna be right until like 2 years from now. As much as I like RJ, he’s not a first option type player. We gonna be miscasting all these players. I don’t see it ending well.

Raptors was a treadmill team until they got Kawhi. Unless we getting someone like him I’m passing on Fred van felton lol

[Strick]

[Tron Carter]

If we trade for rwb brock aller is worthless

[NoDopeOnSundays]

He’s not bad but he’s not an ideal option for a trash rebuilding team like the Knicks. He’s about to turn 27 years old and he’s not a good first option. That’s what he’s gonna be when he’s on the Knicks. Let him go somewhere else.

Why would he be the first option here? That is clearly going to be RJ, and if we draft someone like Hayes he would ultimately grow into our second option. 27 isn't old, the Raptors traded for Lowry when he was 26, the Celtics signed Horford and made him their highest paid player when he was 30. He would bring stability to our team, and help at a position we need, there's no wondering about what he is or can be, and he can fit with multiple ball handlers.

Hayes not gonna be right until like 2 years from now. As much as I like RJ, he’s not a first option type player. We gonna be miscasting all these players. I don’t see it ending well.

Raptors was a treadmill team until they got Kawhi. Unless we getting someone like him I’m passing on Fred van felton lol

The only way RJ isn't our first option is if we trade for Russ, whether he's a true first option in the long term isn't going to change the fact he's going to get the most shots on our team this season, and signing Fred isn't changing that. Hayes doesn't need to be ready to be one right now, but having Fred would take ball handling pressure off him and RJ, while giving RJ spacing.

FVV is a good move towards establishing a middle ground between rebuilding and competing since he's young enough to grow with the team, and has proven himself good enough to be a major contributor to a playoff team. With how many guys we have on rookie deals his salary doesn't even hurt us either.

[robillionaire]

He’s not bad but he’s not an ideal option for a trash rebuilding team like the Knicks. He’s about to turn 27 years old and he’s not a good first option. That’s what he’s gonna be when he’s on the Knicks. Let him go somewhere else.

Why would he be the first option here? That is clearly going to be RJ, and if we draft someone like Hayes he would ultimately grow into our second option. 27 isn't old, the Raptors traded for Lowry when he was 26, the Celtics signed Horford and made him their highest paid player when he was 30. He would bring stability to our team, and help at a position we need, there's no wondering about what he is or can be, and he can fit with multiple ball handlers.

Hayes not gonna be right until like 2 years from now. As much as I like RJ, he’s not a first option type player. We gonna be miscasting all these players. I don’t see it ending well.

Raptors was a treadmill team until they got Kawhi. Unless we getting someone like him I’m passing on Fred van felton lol

I agree with all this. FVV coming in to shoot 20 times a game and winning just enough games to not get a good pick isn't my priority and RJ hasn't demonstrated that he can be a 1st option yet

[RHODEY]

[F N 11]

Fred VanFelton??



I tried to stay silent, but I can't do it anymore. I will not stand for the Fred VanVleet libel in this thread. The man is 26, can play on and off the ball, a good shooter, plays defense, championship experience, won't hurt the development of youth, and is basically Starks with his underdog, hard working storyline. Best of all, $20M per is nothing in this day and age. With no cornerstone, franchise players available, he's almost the perfect FA signing for a team like the Knicks - he'll fit now, and his age, skills, and mentality mean he'll fit as they grow, too.

Somoene had to say it. Perfect fit and already performed at the highest level. If he was 2 inches taller this wouldn't be a discussion. People okay with having Randle at 20 Mill but not Fred. Fred instantly gives us a versatile pg who doesnt need the ball in his hand at all times which is good for RJ's development. Plus hes great off the catch and shoot. What's not to like??

[F N 11]

If we trade for rwb brock aller is worthless

If Randle is in the deal it comes like only using 20 Million of Cap for Westbrook. I hear what you are saying though.

[god shammgod]

westbrick or fred van felton. it's the stuff nightmares are made of. bring me young kwame aka dennis schroder.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Why would he be the first option here? That is clearly going to be RJ, and if we draft someone like Hayes he would ultimately grow into our second option. 27 isn't old, the Raptors traded for Lowry when he was 26, the Celtics signed Horford and made him their highest paid player when he was 30. He would bring stability to our team, and help at a position we need, there's no wondering about what he is or can be, and he can fit with multiple ball handlers.

Hayes not gonna be right until like 2 years from now. As much as I like RJ, he’s not a first option type player. We gonna be miscasting all these players. I don’t see it ending well.

Raptors was a treadmill team until they got Kawhi. Unless we getting someone like him I’m passing on Fred van felton lol

I agree with all this. FVV coming in to shoot 20 times a game and winning just enough games to not get a good pick isn't my priority and RJ hasn't demonstrated that he can be a 1st option yet

This is the only way to come at FVV, is to say he'll be our first option, when we all know RJ is going to get the lion's share of the shots whether he's ready or not. They already tipped their hand to this by looking for players in the draft that fit with RJ.

Who exactly is our first option this season if it's not RJ?

[HEZI]

FVV after getting his money and playing for the lottery bound Knicks

[god shammgod]

who is ok with randle besides melo ? and at least randle is done after this year. we'll be stuck with van felton for 4 or 5 years.

[Richard4444]

Westbrook has 3 years. that is a hard pass. We need to be preserving cap space for 2022 free agency as that is the last summer that RJ will be on his rookie deal.

Last summer of RJ"s rookie deal is 2023!!

[bleedblue3303]

Schroder makes sense if we plan to Morris him. Take his expiring contract at the trade deadline and ship it off for a another first round pick in a deep draft. If that happens it makes sense.

[mpharris36]

If we trade for rwb brock aller is worthless

If Randle is in the deal it comes like only using 20 Million of Cap for Westbrook. I hear what you are saying though.

for just 1 year...then 45+ the next 2

NO **** WAY!

[mpharris36]

westbrick or fred van felton. it's the stuff nightmares are made of. bring me young kwame aka dennis schroder.

[Deeeez Knicks]

westbrick or fred van felton. it's the stuff nightmares are made of. bring me young kwame aka dennis schroder.

It's the 13th draft thread on Friday the 13th. I knew this wasn't going to end well.

i dont even really want Schroder either, although maybe the lesser of the evils

[3toheadmelo]

Why would he be the first option here? That is clearly going to be RJ, and if we draft someone like Hayes he would ultimately grow into our second option. 27 isn't old, the Raptors traded for Lowry when he was 26, the Celtics signed Horford and made him their highest paid player when he was 30. He would bring stability to our team, and help at a position we need, there's no wondering about what he is or can be, and he can fit with multiple ball handlers.

Hayes not gonna be right until like 2 years from now. As much as I like RJ, he’s not a first option type player. We gonna be miscasting all these players. I don’t see it ending well.

Raptors was a treadmill team until they got Kawhi. Unless we getting someone like him I’m passing on Fred van felton lol

The only way RJ isn't our first option is if we trade for Russ, whether he's a true first option in the long term isn't going to change the fact he's going to get the most shots on our team this season, and signing Fred isn't changing that. Hayes doesn't need to be ready to be one right now, but having Fred would take ball handling pressure off him and RJ, while giving RJ spacing.

FVV is a good move towards establishing a middle ground between rebuilding and competing since he's young enough to grow with the team, and has proven himself good enough to be a major contributor to a playoff team. With how many guys we have on rookie deals his salary doesn't even hurt us either.

If we know RJ isn’t a first option player then why put him in that role to fail?
Fred is def gonna take shots from him. He was recently saying he wants to be the lead guard on a team or something like that. He ain’t coming here to be a 2nd/3rd option.

[3toheadmelo]

who is ok with randle besides melo ? and at least randle is done after this year. we'll be stuck with van felton for 4 or 5 years.

I know juco and jermsknicks like him. Zenibar too. Sure I’m missing a couple others. I’m not all alone lol.

[thebuzzardman]

If we trade for rwb brock aller is worthless

It's a VERY un-Brock Aller move.

Doubt it happens