Prospect Thread: James Wiseman

[Liver_Pooty]

I still don't see the Booker comparison with Edwards. Like, I dont see it at all.

So you don’t think he can be 20 ppg 2 guard who can score at all three levels?

I think he can be a 20 ppg scorer. What I am unsure of is how efficient he will be in doing so. Im perfectly fine drafting him based on his physical tools. In regards to Booker when I think of him I think of elite shooting. Edwards just doesn't strike me as an elite shooter. Right now anyway

[BigSlam]

Back to Wiseman though guys.....

He seems like the hottest property in the draft right now with many different teams said to be targeting him - for whatever those rumors are worth.

[JMAC3]

Wiseman isn’t the hottest commodity, but the best smokescreen.

It’s pretty obvious the player teams want to trade up for is Ball. Detroit, Knicks, Chicago are teams rumored to be wanting to move up.

Best case for Warriors is they convince Hornets to trade up to 1 for Wiseman and then they can either take Ball or get a big package from one of those teams.

If Ball goes 1 to Minnesota then Warriors lose all their leverage with those teams/don’t get to draft Ball themselves.

[Soul Rebel]

Perfectly happy with Wiseman in a Hornets jersey next year.

100% not on board with giving up assets to move up to select him.

If he’s there naturally at 3, cool.

[Chapelchilla]

No to trading up here too, whoever is there will do or trade that guy for more assets if we don't want Ball.

[wilson115]

Just don't see why we'd need to trade up in the first place. LaMelo and his trade value goes #1 or #2. Wolves with what looks like a competent FO for once won't blow #1 on a redundant big. Warriors won't stake #2 and their championship window on a project.

[SWedd523]

I still don't see the Booker comparison with Edwards. Like, I dont see it at all.

Much less Trae Young from Ball LMAO

[Rays Pompadour]

I guess there's some value in the known vs. the unknown.

If Charlotte really does like Wiseman, which they do by all reports, then trading for the #1 pick would be a reasonable move toward the known. If the draft value of the top 3 players is relatively even, then trading up makes no sense. But if the Hornets believe Wiseman is the true #1 and a potential franchise-changing talent, then it would be best for them to explore getting #1 and paying the going rate.

So, is the value of the known worth the price?

[JMAC3]

I still don't see the Booker comparison with Edwards. Like, I dont see it at all.

Much less Trae Young from Ball LMAO

Trae young had just as many red flags heading into the league as Ball has. Don’t think I’m comparing some garbage prospect to a guy who was going to be a clear cut star.

Same with Booker, he barely was a lottery pick. Edwards is viewed to have way more upside heading into the draft then Booker had.

[BigSlam]

James Wiseman thread. Let’s keep the discussion about him please.


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[JMAC3]

Assuming we trade up to 1 for Wiseman (and for this purpose let’s assume Warriors take him at 2 if we don’t trade up).

The deal is 3, Bridges and 32 for 1.

We upgrade center with Wiseman but create a big whole at SF and backup 4.

Graham- Rozier- Martin-PJ- Wiseman

Vs

Graham- Rozier-Bridges- PJ- OO

Which team is better?

[HornetJail]

Assuming we trade up to 1 for Wiseman (and for this purpose let’s assume Warriors take him at 2 if we don’t trade up).

The deal is 3, Bridges and 32 for 1.

We upgrade center with Wiseman but create a big whole at SF and backup 4.

Graham- Rozier- Martin-PJ- Wiseman

Vs

Graham- Rozier-Bridges- PJ- OO

Which team is better?

I'm asking for #17 back or at least for us to keep #32. Miles should be more than enough to move up those two spots, especially given how barren the Wolves forward rotation is.

[BigSlam]

Assuming we trade up to 1 for Wiseman (and for this purpose let’s assume Warriors take him at 2 if we don’t trade up).

The deal is 3, Bridges and 32 for 1.

We upgrade center with Wiseman but create a big whole at SF and backup 4.

Graham- Rozier- Martin-PJ- Wiseman

Vs

Graham- Rozier-Bridges- PJ- OO

Which team is better?

I think that’d be a massive overpay to move up in this draft.


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[James Gatz]

PD Webb who is one the best young draft guys breaks down Wiseman defense in various overages. Definitely worth a read to get a sense of what type of player he will be at the next level.

Read on Twitter

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F85LnlWJzKOzstUdy9AGrmWP9CVwQ3MMKnpmnRseHd8/edit

[amcoolio]

You read all these advanced scouting reports on Wiseman and its like "damn there is no way Minny or GS is taking him" which means he is the one that drops to us, and boy does it not get me excited at all.

[James Gatz]

You read all these advanced scouting reports on Wiseman and its like "damn there is no way Minny or GS is taking him" which means he is the one that drops to us, and boy does it not get me excited at all.

100% where I am at. Wiseman is still probably a top 10 guy for me but at 3 I'm going to be really disappointed. Very least he'll put up numbers but he's not a guy who will change the franchise and might limit it if we feel the need to build the roster around him.

[amcoolio]

I'm setting my expectations for "not a knucklehead" Hassan Whiteside

[James Gatz]

I'm setting my expectations for "not a knucklehead" Hassan Whiteside

I think that's probably his most likely outcome. That's certainly an NBA player and likely a 12-20 starting 5.

Him being compared to Bosh, David Robinson, or even Ayton is just off base.

[DY_nasty]

I'm setting my expectations for "not a knucklehead" Hassan Whiteside

which is a really good player

[UnFadeable21]

Read on Twitter

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We reported last week that the Charlotte Hornets were interested in Wiseman, which may have something to do with scouts and executives hearing the Timberwolves could actually take him No. 1. For Minnesota, creating the perception it wants Wiseman would motivate Charlotte to make a bigger trade offer for the first pick. If Charlotte moves to No. 1 for Wiseman, Minnesota guarantees itself Ball or Edwards while being compensated for dropping two spots.

Picking third instead of first also takes pressure off the Wolves' front office. One rival executive told Bleacher Report, "I'd be scared to death to pick first this year."

The question is what Minnesota would ask for in a deal with Charlotte, and what/whom the Hornets would be willing to trade to jump up two spots. Assuming Graham and P.J. Washington are untouchable, Miles Bridges comes off as a desirable target for Minnesota, though the Hornets would probably balk at adding him in a deal as well.

They could try to sell high on Malik Monk, whose stock may have spiked despite his suspension, which interrupted a streak that had him averaging 17.0 points over his final 13 games. Otherwise, Charlotte has No. 32 overall (via Cavaliers) to offer, as well as future picks.