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2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go

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Obi Toppin
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Tyrese Maxey
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Isaac Okoro
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Killian Hayes
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Aaron Nesmith
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RJ Hampton
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Kira Lewis
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Patrick Williams
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1461 » by Traveyknicks23 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:19 pm

NYF13 wrote:Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.


Does sound fine in theory but you gotta think of that doesn’t work we are stuck will this contract so I get why everyone is worried
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1462 » by Richard4444 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:20 pm

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This is the only way I can accept this!!!!!


Are you signing WB to attract stars?

Nobody wants to play with him!!!
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1463 » by mpharris36 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:20 pm

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Even you know that's not true. Westbrook for all his faults still actually produces and hasn't had a losing season in like 10 years. Wall and WIggins are way worse.

I'm not saying it's a good deal but this is your MO when the Knicks are rumored to do something you don't like. You go off the rails :lol:


it is worse becaues it does exactly that...makes us just good enough to never get a pick worth a damn and never good enough to win anything important.

Wiggins would still potentially land us Cade


You still holding on to that hope huh? Just like we were supposed to get Zion... Doncic... Playing and hoping for something that at best has a 12.5% chance of happening is the dumbest thing we can do and no it does not make Westbrook the worst contract in the game. That logic doesn't make any sense.

I'm not advocating for Russ but at least the mfer is productive and there's a world (albeit small) where he rehabs his value and makes himself more attractive to a real contender with us. He still was an engine on a team that was on pace to win over 50 games in the west last year.. He's not a bad player. He's just flawed. If Houston is going to compensate us to take him I can see why Leon and co. would be interested.


they have nothing to compensate us with.

Here's the thing if Westbrook was a FA today

would you sign him to a 3 years 133 million dollar contract?

If the answer is no, which it should be. Then its not even worth discussing beyond that point.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1464 » by Chanel Bomber » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:21 pm

NYF13 wrote:Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.

Why THIS year?

There aren't gonna be any crowds. No MSG excitement. Top-heavy draft class.

If there was ever a year NOT to be good and make the playoffs, it'd be this one.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1465 » by NYF13 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:22 pm

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NYF13 wrote:Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.


Does sound fine in theory but you gotta think of that doesn’t work we are stuck will this contract so I get why everyone is worried

No I get it right. What am I saying is let’s say hypothetically Greek Freak wants to come to the Knicks, then we can send him packing for 2024 and 2026 FRP or something like that.
In short, all I am saying is RJ-Brunson-Grimes-Quickley-Randle are the untouchables moving forward.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1466 » by Traveyknicks23 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:22 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
Read on Twitter


This is the only way I can accept this!!!!!


Are you signing WB to attract stars?

Nobody wants to play with him!!!


Based off what?

Seems like nobody wants to play with harden
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1467 » by Richard4444 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:23 pm

Traveyknicks23 wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
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This is the only way I can accept this!!!!!


The rumor is they don’t even want to give up Knox.... so I am hopeful the main things we are offering is taking the contract off their hands, Randle, and maybe a 2023 Mavs pick.


No picks


NO WB
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1468 » by Traveyknicks23 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:24 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
NYF13 wrote:Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.

Why THIS year?

There aren't gonna be any crowds. No MSG excitement. Top-heavy draft class.

If there was ever a year NOT to be good and make the playoffs, it'd be this one.


Don’t see how making the plays is bad for any of our young guys including the one we are about to draft who the hell cares about crowds
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1469 » by NYF13 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:24 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
NYF13 wrote:Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.

Why THIS year?

There aren't gonna be any crowds. No MSG excitement. Top-heavy draft class.

If there was ever a year NOT to be good and make the playoffs, it'd be this one.


Mitch has been here in NY for so long but didn’t make a playoff and RJ will be in Year 3. If you don’t make playoff, then let’s just sit these young guys who we plan to keep, stay at home due to COVID.
In short, all I am saying is RJ-Brunson-Grimes-Quickley-Randle are the untouchables moving forward.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1470 » by Traveyknicks23 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:25 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
The rumor is they don’t even want to give up Knox.... so I am hopeful the main things we are offering is taking the contract off their hands, Randle, and maybe a 2023 Mavs pick.


No picks


NO WB


BS nobody is giving picks up for the guy they ain’t Finessin Us
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1471 » by NYF13 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:25 pm

Traveyknicks23 wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
NYF13 wrote:Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.

Why THIS year?

There aren't gonna be any crowds. No MSG excitement. Top-heavy draft class.

If there was ever a year NOT to be good and make the playoffs, it'd be this one.


Don’t see how making the plays is bad for any of our young guys including the one we are about to draft who the hell cares about crowds

Correct
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1472 » by mpharris36 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:25 pm

NYF13 wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
NYF13 wrote:Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.

Why THIS year?

There aren't gonna be any crowds. No MSG excitement. Top-heavy draft class.

If there was ever a year NOT to be good and make the playoffs, it'd be this one.


Mitch has been here in NY for so long but didn’t make a playoff and RJ will be in Year 3. If you don’t make playoff, then let’s just sit these young guys who we plan to keep, stay at home due to COVID.


how are you affording another superstar next year with westbrook and noah dead cap space making over $50 MM by themselves?

And who wants to play with Westbrook?
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1473 » by Richard4444 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:25 pm

NYF13 wrote:Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.


I dont think we can get into the playoffs with Russ. The team will be near unplayable.

We would have to trade RJ and Frank to get better shooters.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1474 » by G_K_F » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:26 pm

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When you're done cleaning the bathroom make me a sandwich. :lol:


No idea what that means, brother.

Are you supposed to be insulting women? Are you calling me a woman and telling me to go cook and clean?

Either way you're corny - and you never answered a simple question. Do better.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1475 » by Guano » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:27 pm

some of you are okay with ruining draft position in a loaded draft just to get swept by the Nets or Heat or Boston - ffs what's wrong with you all.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1476 » by Richard4444 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:29 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
NYF13 wrote:Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.

Why THIS year?

There aren't gonna be any crowds. No MSG excitement. Top-heavy draft class.

If there was ever a year NOT to be good and make the playoffs, it'd be this one.


It's only 72 games in 5 months. It's fast. We won't suffer too much with losses and bad play...

Tanking is better than trying to win with WB...
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1477 » by stuporman » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:31 pm

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When you're done cleaning the bathroom make me a sandwich. :lol:


No idea what that means, brother.

Are you supposed to be insulting women? Are you calling me a woman and telling me to go cook and clean?

Either way you're corny - and you never answered a simple question. Do better.


Did you get the underside of the toilet seat? Don't miss that....:rofl:

Are you suggesting that cleaning and making a sandwich is woman's work? That's sexist, you should examine your biases.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1478 » by DaGawd » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:32 pm

Hostility all in the air... this is wonderful! <3
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1479 » by Traveyknicks23 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:32 pm

Guano wrote:some of you are okay with ruining draft position in a loaded draft just to get swept by the Nets or Heat or Boston - ffs what's wrong with you all.


Bruh we couldn’t even land top 5 with with a bad roster and no shooters wtf makes you think this wouldn’t happen again next year?
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1480 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:32 pm

If Leon makes this Westbrook trade, we storm MSG.

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