Hellcrooner wrote:freethedevil wrote:Hellcrooner wrote:
get real dude
-Huh? Why are we using all time trophy counts.?We're comparing the leagues current quality. And we have a large sample of data telling us that even preseason mls teams are competitive with midseason liga mex ones. MLS's record vs liga mex over the last three tourneys has been two games below .500. Why would we ignore that in favor of a all time comaprison over a small sample of teams? Especially considering that mls operates under a parity forcing salary cap, and liga mex does not? If liga mex was a much better league than mls, than recent results would show a dominant record for their top teams vs mls preseason teams. What results show, is mls teams far from their peaks going toe to toe with liga mex teams near peak form.
MLS youngsters have generated far more interest than liga mex ones from abroad, while liga mex has started doing the mls thing off importing over the hill foreign talent. During the last cycle liga mex youngsters were more frequently being signed by european clubs, now mls ones are. Incidentally, the american player pool has far more talent playing at higher levels. Liga mex has developed nobody of note recently outside of alvares and lainez. Last season alone, MLS sent alphonso davies to bayern, and tyler adams to rb lezpig with dc united nearly sending acosta to PSG. There's no viable explanation for Mexico having little to no talent outside of liga mex outside of them just not being good enough for top level clubsA mls team has not won since 2000, thats 20 years ago.
Read this time:And we have a large sample of data telling us that even preseason mls teams are competitive with midseason liga mex ones. MLS's record vs liga mex over the last three tourneys has been two games below .500.
Since mls teams have started using tam three years ago, they have played roughly even with liga mex ones. We're assessing team quality, not prestige, winning a ccl would not magically make a mid-table mls team's players better, so why should we care?
If I was you, I'd google "sample size".have not had a finalist since 2011 10 years ago.
Literally lost on penalties two ccl's ago in tourney where mls went 5-2 vs liga mex ones. If mexico is much better can you explain how liga mex won less than half the games preseason mls sides won?
Current holders of the gold cup? mexico ( 4 wins on the last ten years vs 2 usa wins)
Do you ever read what you respond to? I want you to take a good look at the op again and come back to me when you have a relevant response:Lineup:
Horvath
Yedlin——Brooks———Miazga (or C.V) --Ant. Robinson (hopefully Dest)
-———-Adams————McKennie
Holmes————-Pulisic——————Weah
-————————Sargent
Reserves:
Ike, Brown, Sabbi, Morris, Long, Steffen, Green, Gonzales, Morales, Pomyakal, Toji, Miles Robinson
Fringe:
Hyndman, Robinson, Miles Robinson, Kaief, Ream, Joel Sonora, Novak
Tactics:
Jesse Marsch's RB Salzburg
Note how the team is completely different and uses completely different tactics from the gold cup team or the wcq team? This is a hypothetical. You can brag about mexico's federation being better run elsewhere.