2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go

[Clyde_Style]

Loathing the idea of taking on Westbrook and his contract, but I have one

QUESTION: Is Thibs a coach who can get Russ to play more under control and be more efficient?

Praying it doesn't happen though

I believe so. Russel plays like Rose in the sense that they are both freaks athletically but were horrible shooting (Rose's time with the Bulls). They both penetrated at will and Thibs made Rose into the youngest league MVP. If there is one coach to have him play under control its Thibs. Don't dismiss Bryant either. If this happens and that's a HUGE if, then its possible to see him play more under control with our coaching staff.

If it happens, then I hope you're right. He still has elite penetration ability which could be used to good effect if he plays with his head up. Mitch's PPG could balloon in that case. Still need to draft a deadly shooter for the backcourt.

I'm figuring Randle will be dealt if Russ comes which would also open the starting PF spot.

[HarthorneWingo]

The maga in him and he’s completely washed as a player

Last season he did 50/38/85

He got hurt again. In the playoffs he looked like tmac when he was on the Pistons

Who's "he"?

[ohboy109]

some of you are okay with ruining draft position in a loaded draft just to get swept by the Nets or Heat or Boston - ffs what's wrong with you all.

Bruh we couldn’t even land top 5 with with a bad roster and no shooters wtf makes you think this wouldn’t happen again next year?

duh cause meaningless wins and playing plan b look what it got us Randle and Porter better be gone next years draft is looking like a good one

[3toheadmelo]

Last season he did 50/38/85

He got hurt again. In the playoffs he looked like tmac when he was on the Pistons

Who's "he"?

Gordon Hayward

[King of Canada]

MCPOAT

(Most Canadian Post of All Time)

Ever see the hockey movie Goon?

I have not

I know of it but no

[F N 11]

Read on Twitter

Woj calming the waters

Only reliable knicks source. Nobody want his big @ss contract.

[god shammgod]

Loathing the idea of taking on Westbrook and his contract, but I have one

QUESTION: Is Thibs a coach who can get Russ to play more under control and be more efficient?

Praying it doesn't happen though

I believe so. Russel plays like Rose in the sense that they are both freaks athletically but were horrible shooting (Rose's time with the Bulls). They both penetrated at will and Thibs made Rose into the youngest league MVP. If there is one coach to have him play under control its Thibs. Don't dismiss Bryant either. If this happens and that's a HUGE if, then its possible to see him play more under control with our coaching staff.

If it happens, then I hope you're right. He still has elite penetration ability which could be used to good effect if he plays with his head up. Mitch's PPG could balloon in that case. Still need to draft a deadly shooter for the backcourt.

I'm figuring Randle will be dealt if Russ comes which would also open the starting PF spot.

mitch will totally destroy teams with him as the pg and i still don't want to do it

[3toheadmelo]

Read on Twitter

[Richard4444]

He got hurt again. In the playoffs he looked like tmac when he was on the Pistons

Who's "he"?

Gordon Hayward

He was not ready. His recovery was rushed. He was out of rhythm. And faced Miami.

[knickstape4ever]

Let’s take Russell Westbrook and without giving up any assets. We make the playoff this year and shoot for an all star during FA in 2021. We can always move Westbrook later with future draft picks if needed.

Let’s make the playoffs this year.

why? this team w/ Russ is no better than an 8 seed at best. quite possible they'd still miss the playoffs even w/ Russ

and the 2021 draft is 1 of the deepest drafts in recent memories. makes no sense to push for the playoffs only to get knocked out in the 1st round and simultaneously hurt draft positioning......for a player who SIGNIFICANTLY hurts cap flexibility b/c he's owed 130M for the next 3 years

+ he's injury prone and getting old (32); he's on the decline. he's an overrated stat-padder and if they acquire him, they'll be a treadmill team for the foreseeable future

[Richard4444]

I post this about a month ago:
Prove it contracts....Drafting shooters

Would Boston do this:
Bos: Gordon Hayward, 14th, 26th and 30th
NY: 8th, DSJ, Bullock, Taj, Ellington and Pinson

Would OKC do this:
OKC: Knox, Frank, Portis, Payton, #30th (Bos)
NY: Chris Paul, #53

WE get both Heyward and Chris Paul

Then with draft picks:
#27 and #30 to Minnesota for #17

#14-Tyrell Terry
#17-Jalen Smith
#26-Desmond Bane
#38-Killian Tillie

No one wants 8M Wellington, 8M Payton, 9M TaJ and 15M Portis. Especially a contender.

[knickstape4ever]

Why THIS year?

There aren't gonna be any crowds. No MSG excitement. Top-heavy draft class.

If there was ever a year NOT to be good and make the playoffs, it'd be this one.

It's only 72 games in 5 months. It's fast. We won't suffer too much with losses and bad play...

Tanking is better than trying to win with WB...

Tanking didnt help us this year LOL but I’m still looking foward to the draft can’t believe it’s finally here

but w/ such a deep draft in 2021, there are 6-7 players who'd likely go #1 next week if they were eligible. Obviously it would be great to be get top 3, but anywhere in the top half of the lottery will be good next year IMO

[3toheadmelo]

Who's "he"?

Gordon Hayward

He was not ready. His recovery was rushed. He was out of rhythm. And faced Miami.

Nah he’s just washed. And he always sucks in the playoffs

[sol537]

If we could get Hayward and CP3 without giving up any real assets, then sure, why not. Both guys would help RJ, Mitch, Frank, picks, etc. get better.

[god shammgod]

no matter what happens with the knicks, i want paul george traded. i'm petty like that.

[Clyde_Style]

I believe so. Russel plays like Rose in the sense that they are both freaks athletically but were horrible shooting (Rose's time with the Bulls). They both penetrated at will and Thibs made Rose into the youngest league MVP. If there is one coach to have him play under control its Thibs. Don't dismiss Bryant either. If this happens and that's a HUGE if, then its possible to see him play more under control with our coaching staff.

If it happens, then I hope you're right. He still has elite penetration ability which could be used to good effect if he plays with his head up. Mitch's PPG could balloon in that case. Still need to draft a deadly shooter for the backcourt.

I'm figuring Randle will be dealt if Russ comes which would also open the starting PF spot.

mitch will totally destroy teams with him as the pg and i still don't want to do it

good way of putting it. I agree

If it happens we'll deal with it then

but until then

[Traveyknicks23]

some of you are okay with ruining draft position in a loaded draft just to get swept by the Nets or Heat or Boston - ffs what's wrong with you all.

Bruh we couldn’t even land top 5 with with a bad roster and no shooters wtf makes you think this wouldn’t happen again next year?

duh cause meaningless wins and playing plan b look what it got us Randle and Porter better be gone next years draft is looking like a good one

If we get decent vets here that actually fit and RJ and Mitch show any signs of development or improvement this team will not be picking top 5 chief then what?

[knickstape4ever]

some of you are okay with ruining draft position in a loaded draft just to get swept by the Nets or Heat or Boston - ffs what's wrong with you all.

Bruh we couldn’t even land top 5 with with a bad roster and no shooters wtf makes you think this wouldn’t happen again next year?

look at the teams who finished w/ worse records last year:

Warriors: contender next season
Cavs: just as much young talent (Garland, Sexton, #5) + better vets (Love, Drummond)
Timberwolves: KAT, D'Lo, #1
Hawks: better young talent + they now have Capela, and rumored to be going after Holiday
Pistons: this is the 1 team that I actually think will be worse than the Knicks

if the Knicks roll w/ the young players, add some complimentary vets (stretch-4, vet PG like Augustin) they'd likely be a bottom 5 team, if not bottom 3

especially considering that the season will be 72-games, more division heavy, and the other 4 teams in the Atlantic (Celtics, 76ers, Raptors, Nets) will all be playoff teams, making the season even tougher

[HEZI]

no matter what happens with the knicks, i want paul george traded. i'm petty like that.

To the Knicks, right?

[knickstape4ever]

I don't want CP3 or Russ, but at least CP3 makes those around him better

Russ will just dribble the air out of the ball and take contested mid-rangers + steal rebounds from Mitch so he can get his #'s