2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

[ATTL]

I'd be confused about adding the 10 pick in a CP trade. His contract was thought to be immovable last summer and now he gets a lotto pick? That's a no from me dog.
If booker wants out because we dont get CP he'll want out when CP breaks down before the contract is up.

[Slim Charless]

I'd be confused about adding the 10 pick in a CP trade. His contract was thought to be immovable last summer and now he gets a lotto pick? That's a no from me dog.
If booker wants out because we dont get CP he'll want out when CP breaks down before the contract is up.

Another interesting thing I heard somewhere, I think from Flex, was that we would keep Frank.

Is he predicting that we keep or trade 10? I've been following this thread but conflicting reports so far.

Not really predicting from what I've heard but does say OKC wants picks and also says we are standing pretty firm (but doesn't indicate if that is in regard to picks I don't know...I think he said he knows we want to keep our pick so that may be the idea, but we certainly shouldn't give away a future first either).

Yeah, it'd be a deal breaker for me. A young player with potential like KO should be enough-or if another team wants in they can send something. We need to keep a hold of that pick either way.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Valuation both in trades and free agent money swing quickly in the NBA. Honestly they probably overreact in this regard. A dude can have a good playoff series and get paid or like Harrell this have a bad series and cost yourself millions.

It's very reasonable that a Chris Paul who just finished 7th in the mvp and 2nd team all nba and was the best player on a 50 win team would hold more value than a Chris Paul coming off an injury and down year plus had 1 more year left on his deal.

Now this isn't implying they should deal 10 just saying it's logical Paul has more value now.

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[TheLogician]

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[Mjee]

Wow good for flex !!! That is going to be a must listen to pod !!!

[Revived]

Forget the whole CP3 thing, I’m more concerned that the Suns aren’t reportedly not gonna bring Baynes back. Ayton improved a ton defensively (before the bubble when he became ass on defense) and a lot of the credit should be given to Baynes. Ayton himself, and Monty have credited Baynes for being a true leader and mentor for Ayton. Baynes himself said recently that Ayton has a lot of talent but just loses focus.

I’m almost certain the market $$ for Baynes isn’t gonna be crazy high. It makes no sense as to why we wouldn’t bring him back. It can’t be because of his injuries considering the players we are reportedly interested like CP3 and Gallinari are worse and more expensive in that department!

We should be doing whatever we can to bring Baynes back to save our #1 overall investment from the 2018 draft. Ayton’s gonna revert back to rookie yr Ayton defensively otherwise.

[King4Day]

Forget the whole CP3 thing, I’m more concerned that the Suns aren’t reportedly not gonna bring Baynes back. Ayton improved a ton defensively (before the bubble when he became ass on defense) and a lot of the credit should be given to Baynes. Ayton himself, and Monty have credited Baynes for being a true leader and mentor for Ayton. Baynes himself said recently that Ayton has a lot of talent but just loses focus.

I’m almost certain the market $$ for Baynes isn’t gonna be crazy high. It makes no sense as to why we wouldn’t bring him back. It can’t be because of his injuries considering the players we are reportedly interested like CP3 and Gallinari are worse and more expensive in that department!

We should be doing whatever we can to bring Baynes back to save our #1 overall investment from the 2018 draft. Ayton’s gonna revert back to rookie yr Ayton defensively otherwise.

Baynes likely isn't returning unless we offered him an insane amount of money. Like serious overpay. Seems he's looking for a contender and I'd be surprised if he doesn't start the season on one of the LA teams or GS.

[Revived]

Forget the whole CP3 thing, I’m more concerned that the Suns aren’t reportedly not gonna bring Baynes back. Ayton improved a ton defensively (before the bubble when he became ass on defense) and a lot of the credit should be given to Baynes. Ayton himself, and Monty have credited Baynes for being a true leader and mentor for Ayton. Baynes himself said recently that Ayton has a lot of talent but just loses focus.

I’m almost certain the market $$ for Baynes isn’t gonna be crazy high. It makes no sense as to why we wouldn’t bring him back. It can’t be because of his injuries considering the players we are reportedly interested like CP3 and Gallinari are worse and more expensive in that department!

We should be doing whatever we can to bring Baynes back to save our #1 overall investment from the 2018 draft. Ayton’s gonna revert back to rookie yr Ayton defensively otherwise.

Baynes likely isn't returning unless we offered him an insane amount of money. Like serious overpay. Seems he's looking for a contender and I'd be surprised if he doesn't start the season on one of the LA teams or GS.

That’s not what he said last season. I remember him saying something along the lines of how he enjoyed it here and would like to stay here.

Sounds more like the Suns told him they aren’t interested in bringing him back so NOW he’s looking at contenders instead of signing with another rebuilding team.

[bwgood77]

Forget the whole CP3 thing, I’m more concerned that the Suns aren’t reportedly not gonna bring Baynes back. Ayton improved a ton defensively (before the bubble when he became ass on defense) and a lot of the credit should be given to Baynes. Ayton himself, and Monty have credited Baynes for being a true leader and mentor for Ayton. Baynes himself said recently that Ayton has a lot of talent but just loses focus.

I’m almost certain the market $$ for Baynes isn’t gonna be crazy high. It makes no sense as to why we wouldn’t bring him back. It can’t be because of his injuries considering the players we are reportedly interested like CP3 and Gallinari are worse and more expensive in that department!

We should be doing whatever we can to bring Baynes back to save our #1 overall investment from the 2018 draft. Ayton’s gonna revert back to rookie yr Ayton defensively otherwise.

Baynes likely isn't returning unless we offered him an insane amount of money. Like serious overpay. Seems he's looking for a contender and I'd be surprised if he doesn't start the season on one of the LA teams or GS.

If people think we will be fighting for home court in the west, which seems like a tall order, it does seem like he would be a good guy to have. The only drawback is that he could probably start for some teams, including the Clippers.

[Slim Charless]

Forget the whole CP3 thing, I’m more concerned that the Suns aren’t reportedly not gonna bring Baynes back. Ayton improved a ton defensively (before the bubble when he became ass on defense) and a lot of the credit should be given to Baynes. Ayton himself, and Monty have credited Baynes for being a true leader and mentor for Ayton. Baynes himself said recently that Ayton has a lot of talent but just loses focus.

I’m almost certain the market $$ for Baynes isn’t gonna be crazy high. It makes no sense as to why we wouldn’t bring him back. It can’t be because of his injuries considering the players we are reportedly interested like CP3 and Gallinari are worse and more expensive in that department!

We should be doing whatever we can to bring Baynes back to save our #1 overall investment from the 2018 draft. Ayton’s gonna revert back to rookie yr Ayton defensively otherwise.

Baynes likely isn't returning unless we offered him an insane amount of money. Like serious overpay. Seems he's looking for a contender and I'd be surprised if he doesn't start the season on one of the LA teams or GS.

If people think we will be fighting for home court in the west, which seems like a tall order, it does seem like he would be a good guy to have. The only drawback is that he could probably start for some teams, including the Clippers.

I like having Baynes around to tutor Ayton-he's definitely had a positive effect on him but he isn't the only guy capable of doing that. If we end pulling the trigger on this CP3 thing, he'll be as good an influence as anything Baynes could do. Also, he would open things up for some other bigs that might not have been down to sign with us. (a good thing considering he will take up 40 mill nxt yr).

[RedIndian]

I'm nervous about going for Gallo. He's not played a single full 82 game season in his career. Over the last 5 years, he's averaging 53 games a season. That's a very poor injury record. In comparison, Paul has averaged 64 games a season over the last 5 years.

[TeamTragic]

I'm nervous about going for Gallo. He's not played a single full 82 game season in his career. Over the last 5 years, he's averaging 53 games a season. That's a very poor injury record. In comparison, Paul has averaged 64 games a season over the last 5 years.

Exactly. Paul/Gallo likely have maybe 2 seasons left before they see a major decline. This is a huge risk and I guess Jones wants to move the needle for the next FA class.

Paul only has 2 years left on his contract. I would guess Gallo will sign a 2 year contract or 1+1.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Suns to reportedly pursue Fred VanVleet if they fail to sign Chris Paul

By Yiannis Bouranis -Nov 13, 2020 9:48 PM

The Phoenix Suns will pursue Fred VanVleet if they fail to trade for Chris Paul, per Michael Scotto of HoopsHype.

The Suns are in talks with Paul, but if they don’t agree with him, then VanVleet will become their top priority.

“If Chris Paul falls through, Fred VanVleet is a guy Phoenix has interest in depending on how things shake out on the trade market,” Scotto reports.

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[matt131]

https://www.talkbasket.net/110476-suns-to-reportedly-pursue-fred-vanvleet-if-they-fail-to-sign-chris-paul

Suns to reportedly pursue Fred VanVleet if they fail to sign Chris Paul

By Yiannis Bouranis -Nov 13, 2020 9:48 PM

The Phoenix Suns will pursue Fred VanVleet if they fail to trade for Chris Paul, per Michael Scotto of HoopsHype.

The Suns are in talks with Paul, but if they don’t agree with him, then VanVleet will become their top priority.

“If Chris Paul falls through, Fred VanVleet is a guy Phoenix has interest in depending on how things shake out on the trade market,” Scotto reports.

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I'd honestly rather have CP3 for 2 years to help improve our young players and franchise than overpay a super small combo guard who is far too easy to guard in the playoffs

[Crives]

https://www.talkbasket.net/110476-suns-to-reportedly-pursue-fred-vanvleet-if-they-fail-to-sign-chris-paul

Suns to reportedly pursue Fred VanVleet if they fail to sign Chris Paul

By Yiannis Bouranis -Nov 13, 2020 9:48 PM

The Phoenix Suns will pursue Fred VanVleet if they fail to trade for Chris Paul, per Michael Scotto of HoopsHype.

The Suns are in talks with Paul, but if they don’t agree with him, then VanVleet will become their top priority.

“If Chris Paul falls through, Fred VanVleet is a guy Phoenix has interest in depending on how things shake out on the trade market,” Scotto reports.

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I'd honestly rather have CP3 for 2 years to help improve our young players and franchise than overpay a super small combo guard who is far too easy to guard in the playoffs

Most likely just FVV agent trying to up FVV price. Hopefully it’s JJ and Bower trying to build leverage with OKC.

[KLEON]

I wonder how Rubio feels about all this bull about CP3 and FVV.

[spanishninja]

I wonder how Rubio feels about all this bull about CP3 and FVV.

I think most likely he knows how much of an impact he had on the team this year, setting them up for a winning attitude. Would be surprised if we don't take care of him in return, sending him to a contender. The bigger thing we gotta worry about is having to play against him when we go against the Clips or Lakers lol.

[Crives]

I wonder how Rubio feels about all this bull about CP3 and FVV.

I think most likely he knows how much of an impact he had on the team this year, setting them up for a winning attitude. Would be surprised if we don't take care of him in return, sending him to a contender. The bigger thing we gotta worry about is having to play against him when we go against the Clips or Lakers lol.

He’s not going to LA. OKC owns the Clippers picks, they have a vested interest in see the Clippers fall apart.

[bwgood77]

I wonder how Rubio feels about all this bull about CP3 and FVV.

He's probably pretty tired of getting traded, but if he ended up with the Clippers he'd probably enjoy finally playing on a contender.

[bwgood77]

I wonder how Rubio feels about all this bull about CP3 and FVV.

I think most likely he knows how much of an impact he had on the team this year, setting them up for a winning attitude. Would be surprised if we don't take care of him in return, sending him to a contender. The bigger thing we gotta worry about is having to play against him when we go against the Clips or Lakers lol.

He’s not going to LA. OKC owns the Clippers picks, they have a vested interest in see the Clippers fall apart.

Clippers are not falling apart any time soon.