Worst Managerial Decisions of the Year?
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Bleeding Green wrote:Joe Torre refuses to use Mo Rivera for anything that won't potentially net him a save.
Like against the Orioles the other day when Proctor blew the game.
Horrible manager. I can't believe he's going into the Hall of Fame.
I can't quite recall correctly, but I think he won a few rings a few years back.
And I hate to break the news, but he's actually already in the HoF.

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TheDogPlayingPoker wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I can't quite recall correctly, but I think he won a few rings a few years back.
And I hate to break the news, but he's actually already in the HoF.
The players won those rings, Torre just couldn't do anything wrong with those teams. He had Cecil Fielder and Darryl Strawberry on the bench, his 8th inning guy was Mo in 1996, he had 4 all-star starting pitchers and bullpens deeper than the Atlantic Ocean.
If he should've bunted but didn't, it never mattered because Scott Brosius probably homered instead. When he should've gone to Mike Stanton, it never mattered because Lloyd would strike out the lefty instead. The guy had a horse shoe up his ***, and there is no coincidence that before those teams and after those teams, he has won NOTHING.
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Yesterday Ned Yost.
We trade 3 prospects for Scott Linebrink. So to open the 7th inning he brings in Seth McClung. Predictably he starts the inning with a walk and a single. Linebrink then comes in and gets Berkman to hit what looks like will be a double play ball but instead of playing at double play depth they have a stupid shift which causes the double play to get all out of whack and ends up costing them a run as Craig Counsell throws wide of 1st base. Linebrink gets out of the inning by inducing a double play ball on Carlos Lee.
Now we head to the 8th inning Derrick Turnbow loads the bases with 1 out and Yost actually makes the right move by taking him out. He brings in Brian Shouse who has probably been our best reliever this year (yes even better than Cordero) and he gets an out but it is a sacrifice fly so a run scores to make it 7-5. So we think he's going to leave Shouse in to face Pence. Instead he goes to Greg Aquino (the same Aquino that has blown a few games this year and got demoted after that.) Pence ends up hitting a 2 run triple and scores later on a passed ball by Johnny Estrada.
Yost's defense of that move was Pence hits 70 points higher against lefties. So here are the splits of the pitchers that could've been in the game compared to Aquino who was in the game.
Aquino's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 292 PA): .282 BAA, .372 OBA, .548 SLG, .920 OPS
Season: .250 BAA, .350 OBA, .438 SLG, .788 OPS
Shouse's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 548 PA): .303 BAA, .389 OBA, .451 SLG, .840 OPS
Season: .253 BAA, .323 OBA, .289 SLG, .612 OPS
Cordero's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 1096 PA): .235 BAA, .289 OBA, .351 SLG, .640 OPS
Season: .221 BAA, .248 OBA, .301 SLG, .549 OPS
Spurling's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 511 PA): .240 BAA, .281 OBA, .385 SLG, .666 OPS
Season: .293 BAA, .327 OBA, .424 SLG, .751 OPS
Capuano's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 2442 PA): .274 BAA, .341 OBA, .478 SLG, .819 OPS
Season: .293 BAA, .356 OBA, .491 SLG, .846 OPS
Wise's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 709 PA): .254 BAA, .321 OBA, .428 SLG, .749 OPS
Season: .271 BAA, .310 OBA, .419 SLG, .728 OPS
We trade 3 prospects for Scott Linebrink. So to open the 7th inning he brings in Seth McClung. Predictably he starts the inning with a walk and a single. Linebrink then comes in and gets Berkman to hit what looks like will be a double play ball but instead of playing at double play depth they have a stupid shift which causes the double play to get all out of whack and ends up costing them a run as Craig Counsell throws wide of 1st base. Linebrink gets out of the inning by inducing a double play ball on Carlos Lee.
Now we head to the 8th inning Derrick Turnbow loads the bases with 1 out and Yost actually makes the right move by taking him out. He brings in Brian Shouse who has probably been our best reliever this year (yes even better than Cordero) and he gets an out but it is a sacrifice fly so a run scores to make it 7-5. So we think he's going to leave Shouse in to face Pence. Instead he goes to Greg Aquino (the same Aquino that has blown a few games this year and got demoted after that.) Pence ends up hitting a 2 run triple and scores later on a passed ball by Johnny Estrada.
Yost's defense of that move was Pence hits 70 points higher against lefties. So here are the splits of the pitchers that could've been in the game compared to Aquino who was in the game.
Aquino's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 292 PA): .282 BAA, .372 OBA, .548 SLG, .920 OPS
Season: .250 BAA, .350 OBA, .438 SLG, .788 OPS
Shouse's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 548 PA): .303 BAA, .389 OBA, .451 SLG, .840 OPS
Season: .253 BAA, .323 OBA, .289 SLG, .612 OPS
Cordero's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 1096 PA): .235 BAA, .289 OBA, .351 SLG, .640 OPS
Season: .221 BAA, .248 OBA, .301 SLG, .549 OPS
Spurling's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 511 PA): .240 BAA, .281 OBA, .385 SLG, .666 OPS
Season: .293 BAA, .327 OBA, .424 SLG, .751 OPS
Capuano's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 2442 PA): .274 BAA, .341 OBA, .478 SLG, .819 OPS
Season: .293 BAA, .356 OBA, .491 SLG, .846 OPS
Wise's Stats vs. RHB:
Career (over 709 PA): .254 BAA, .321 OBA, .428 SLG, .749 OPS
Season: .271 BAA, .310 OBA, .419 SLG, .728 OPS
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Any time Yost makes a decision, its most likely going to be a bad one. From leaving his starters in too long all season, to when Suppan is pitching great against the Cubs last week only has 80 pitches and takes him out after the 6th inning.
The Labor day move with Acquino though was no doubt the most frustrating game I have seen all year. You knew it was going to happen right when he brought him in. I would say Yost cost the Brewers a good 7-8 wins so far this year and that might be a generous number
The Labor day move with Acquino though was no doubt the most frustrating game I have seen all year. You knew it was going to happen right when he brought him in. I would say Yost cost the Brewers a good 7-8 wins so far this year and that might be a generous number
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mets87 wrote:now that the brewers have come back to the pack, everyone's calling for yost's head. LOL.
Many Brewers fans were calling for Yost's head when the team was 24-10.
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."
I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
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