2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go

[HEZI]

If they want to take Okoro with the thought of developing him slowly, probably bringing him off the bench or even giving him some burn in GLeaugue and thinking long term like really long term then that's a different story.

Yes.

That's fine and all but are we really prepared to do that? Take a long term project with our pick, again? There better not be a stud drafted after our pick because it's going to be the same story as in the past.

[DaGawd]

I’m gonna need the Okoro slander to stop

[Capn'O]

If they want to take Okoro with the thought of developing him slowly, probably bringing him off the bench or even giving him some burn in GLeaugue and thinking long term like really long term then that's a different story.

Yes.

That's fine and all but are we really prepared to do that? Take a long term project with our pick, again? There better not be a stud drafted after our pick because it's going to be the same story as in the past.

I am in Camp Hayes, even wanting to trade up for him. I understand Camp Okoro but they can argue him for themselves.

Generally yes though. We should still be drafting for the long term. If the prospect is also a good defender, all the better.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

He’s gonna be nasty if he lives up to his potential

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The Spurs are supposedly interested in him, if anyone can develop him it would be them.

[newyorker4ever]

Mpharris gonna be impossible if we get okoro

Hey at least that's a justifiable pick with Okoro's upside. Now if it was Devin Vassell, well that would just be unbearable

You still on the draft Cole Anthony at #8 train or have you come off of that one? Haven't been doing enough browsing on here lately to know who some on here are wanting at #8 these days.

[F N 11]

Don’t forget Patrick Williams folks.

[YungKnicks]

Looks like this would be the team

FVV
Okoro
RJ
Randle
Mitch

Treadmill Cityyyyyyyyy

Ewwwwwww

[newyorker4ever]

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Maybe he really is Justice Winslow 2.0 if Ainge wants him

Ainge has done well with drafting players that play defense and guys that play both sides of the ball well.

[F N 11]

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Damn that boy a shooter shooter. Calling plays for him, he’s another sleeper.

[3toheadmelo]

I would definitely take him if we can dump Randle or add #14

Hayward, #26 for Randle, DSJ, #38 something like this.
Or Hayward, #14 straight into cap space (would even give up 27 + 38 in that case).

I’m not giving up any picks or players for Hayward. Hell no. Not even Frank or Knox who I dislike the most on our team. Are you trying to chase the 9th seed instead of developing players?

where did I give up picks for hayward? in the first trade I moved up from 38 to 26 and in the second I packaged 27 + 38 to get 14.
And I def would give up DSJ and Randle. Sorry bro, I know you like them, but they are just terrible fits.

First trade has you giving up the 38th pick and the second one has you giving up 2 picks.

Like I said before, all Hayward is going to do is chuck up shots and take away minutes from our young guys. Are you trying to chase the 9th seed?

[HEZI]

Mpharris gonna be impossible if we get okoro

Hey at least that's a justifiable pick with Okoro's upside. Now if it was Devin Vassell, well that would just be unbearable

You still on the draft Cole Anthony at #8 train or have you come off of that one? Haven't been doing enough browsing on here lately to know who some on here are wanting at #8 these days.

Yup would still take him but I've covered all the bases with Cole to the point where I don't think there's anything left to be explored. Been taking a dive into these other players and trying to see what else is really out there. There's some guys like Maxey and Terry who I've completely flipped on to the point where I like them a lot now. Overall there's a lot of guards who can help us and can fit in and we can find use for even down in the 27th pick range. A lot of directions we can choose to take.

[Reign23]

I’m not giving up any picks or players for Hayward. Hell no. Not even Frank or Knox who I dislike the most on our team. Are you trying to chase the 9th seed instead of developing players?

where did I give up picks for hayward? in the first trade I moved up from 38 to 26 and in the second I packaged 27 + 38 to get 14.
And I def would give up DSJ and Randle. Sorry bro, I know you like them, but they are just terrible fits.

First trade has you giving up the 38th pick and the second one has you giving up 2 picks.

Like I said before, all Hayward is going to do is chuck up shots and take away minutes from our young guys. Are you trying to chase the 9th seed?

no I don't want to chase the 9th seed. but we aren't going full tanking anyway. so I would rather have Hayward chuck up shots (and space the floor) than Randle.
And again, i moved up with those picks. I didn't give them away for Hayward.

[Black and Blue]

Just watched the game on YouTube of Kira vs Haliburton and wow I gotta say it made me like Kira less and Haliburton a whole lot more. I want to couch this by saying I hope the Knicks draft either, but it wasn’t close. Halibrton’s decision making, shot selection, defense and no look passes were on full display. Kira, on the other hand, displayed quickness and little else. He seemed to run into traffic, get trapped, and have little recourse but to throw it to someone else. I know it’s only one game but the difference between these players was night and day when playing head to head.

Not disagreeing with you but fast forward a bit. How much more mature is Kira now? How much stronger? (Especially after the weight gain) AND the BIG thing... how different is the NBA game vs the NCAA?

Right , I dont think head to head for one game is a good guage. Didnt Knox destroy Bridges (or somebody) and thats why we picked him? Im sure Cole Anthony would destroy most of the PGS in the draft head to head but he;s not gonna be picked in the top ten...

But Kira is predicted to have the higher ceiling were as Haliburton is more ready made.

No disagreements here. For me personally I will say watching highlights of both in a vacuum I was unclear as to why everyone had Haliburton going higher in the draft, then watched this clip and was like, “Oh, this is why.”

Being a Knicks fan I often forget there is such a thing as going with a proven commodity. This franchise, in game show terms, never goes with the smart, safe bet over “the mystery box”.

[newyorker4ever]

Grade A draft:

take on Mike Scott contract + #34 and our 2021 2nd
Acquire another 1st via salary dump trade (maybe Brooklyn trading Prince?)
use that 1st + #34 or #38 + 5.6M in cash + maybe DSJ to move up around #15

1(8) Kira Lewis
1(15) RJ Hampton (or Aaron Nesmith)
1(27) Desmond Bane
2(38) Reggie Perry

If we end up with 3 1st round picks then we have to end up with a PF that can shoot and play defense with at least one of those picks.

[3toheadmelo]

where did I give up picks for hayward? in the first trade I moved up from 38 to 26 and in the second I packaged 27 + 38 to get 14.
And I def would give up DSJ and Randle. Sorry bro, I know you like them, but they are just terrible fits.

First trade has you giving up the 38th pick and the second one has you giving up 2 picks.

Like I said before, all Hayward is going to do is chuck up shots and take away minutes from our young guys. Are you trying to chase the 9th seed?

no I don't want to chase the 9th seed. but we aren't going full tanking anyway. so I would rather have Hayward chuck up shots (and space the floor) than Randle.
And again, i moved up with those picks. I didn't give them away for Hayward.

Well that’s exactly what you’re doing giving up young players for a washed up player. Chasing the 9th seed. I rather see what they can do with actual coaching instead of dumping them for a terrible washed up player who’s only going to hinder the development of our young players.

Also hate on Randle as much as you want but he actually played well under Miller. Randle-Mitch-RJ under Miller without Morris had a positive net rating.

I don’t see why Boston would even take DSJ from us. He does nothing for them.

[G_K_F]

2 more pages and we're out of thread 13.

I underestimated how fast we could through 30 pages.

That Westbrook rumor brought a lot of people in here.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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Maybe he really is Justice Winslow 2.0 if Ainge wants him

Ainge has done well with drafting players that play defense and guys that play both sides of the ball well.

They value the 6'6-6'8" athlete that plays hard, they figure it's easier to teach someone like that how to shoot than it is to teach a guy with a poor motor how to care.

[Reign23]

First trade has you giving up the 38th pick and the second one has you giving up 2 picks.

Like I said before, all Hayward is going to do is chuck up shots and take away minutes from our young guys. Are you trying to chase the 9th seed?

no I don't want to chase the 9th seed. but we aren't going full tanking anyway. so I would rather have Hayward chuck up shots (and space the floor) than Randle.
And again, i moved up with those picks. I didn't give them away for Hayward.

Well that’s exactly what you’re doing giving up young players for a washed up player. Chasing the 9th seed. I rather see what they can do with actual coaching instead of dumping them for a terrible washed up player who’s only going to hinder the development of our young players.

Also hate on Randle as much as you want but he actually played well under Miller. Randle-Mitch-RJ under Miller without Morris had a positive net rating.

I don’t see why Boston would even take DSJ from us. He does nothing for them.

I'm not even a fan of Hayward. just want 3 things from my offseason moves:
I'm trying to a) get better b) get better fits around mitch and RJ and c) keep future flexiblity
Hayward is a) better than Randle, b) a better fit with his shooting and role as secondary ballhandler and c) his contract is up after next season but Randle would have 4 million guaranteed

[Richard4444]

Why do some of you think Danny Ainge is going to trade Hayward & picks for Randle? Do yall not know that man's history in trades?

They would save 15M in this trade. I dont think it's absurd. But its improbable.

[El Poochio]

Looks like this would be the team

FVV
Okoro
RJ
Randle
Mitch

Treadmill Cityyyyyyyyy

Ewwwwwww