Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj]

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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#21 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:31 pm

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Is this correct? The pick amount won’t count here, right?
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#22 » by jayu70 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:32 pm

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loserX wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Who wants Danny, assuming he’s the salary coming back?


A really nice fit in Atlanta if they are out on Jrue or other big names. A good defensive 2 with championship experience and who can get hot shooting 3s? Atlanta has loads of caproom and might even return your well-protected 1st to you.

I think hawks having a lot of cap room gives them a reason not to send an expiring for DG. Get a vet via FA on a large one year deal.

This. Atlanta should not be sending out a 1st to eat Green's salary. There are other alternatives via FA or different trade.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#23 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:33 pm

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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#24 » by ThatBoyNick » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:33 pm

I like Danny for Houston if we can create a TPE with a WB trade.

Win win deal for both teams. Rondo likely wants a long term deal, Lakers get a good scorer/passer for when Lebron sits/takes the play off on a one year deal.

OKC lands a first for a player that was dumped, Green should also fetch a 2nd on trade market.

As a Rocket fan this is a double edged sword move for the Lakers, they gain Schroeder who did great at breaking our D down in the playoffs, but they lose Danny who is one of the best Harden defenders in the league, they also likely lose Rondo who was a pest on D as well.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#25 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:34 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Is this correct? The pick amount won’t count here, right?

I don’t think it’s practical flexibility. Lakers don’t have to pay their rookie. Lakers had the MLE either way i think and pretty far from the tax.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#26 » by HartfordWhalers » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:36 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Is this correct? The pick amount won’t count here, right?


Marks post is poorly worded. What he is saying is the Lakers are close to the hard cap already, so the small savings of not having a 1st rounder 'helps' them. (Of course, he isn't including back a vet min charge).

As for how the trade will be done, it could be done wiha draft pick signed and a 30 day waiting period (?) over, but why would they? Do it now, and the 1st rounder counts as 0 salary for matching.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#27 » by jbk1234 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:36 pm

loserX wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Who wants Danny, assuming he’s the salary coming back?


A really nice fit in Atlanta if they are out on Jrue or other big names. A good defensive 2 with championship experience and who can get hot shooting 3s? Atlanta has loads of caproom and might even return your well-protected 1st to you.
I don't see Green returning a pick at this stage in his career.

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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#28 » by Karmaloop » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:37 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Is this correct? The pick amount won’t count here, right?


It counts for luxury tax purposes, but not trade purposes.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#29 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:39 pm

Karmaloop wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Is this correct? The pick amount won’t count here, right?


It counts for luxury tax purposes, but not trade purposes.


Yep thanks to everyone for quickly educating me on what Marks is saying here lol
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#30 » by Buzzard » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:40 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
loserX wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Who wants Danny, assuming he’s the salary coming back?


A really nice fit in Atlanta if they are out on Jrue or other big names. A good defensive 2 with championship experience and who can get hot shooting 3s? Atlanta has loads of caproom and might even return your well-protected 1st to you.

I think hawks having a lot of cap room gives them a reason not to send an expiring for DG. Get a vet via FA on a large one year deal.

They want good value across the board this free agency. I don't see the Hawks giving up any value for Green if they want him at all. Below is a quote on their free agency plans.

“We’re not just going to pay a guy so we can look good on paper,” the source said.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/atlanta-hawks

Green is one of those players in my opinion that makes the Hawks look good on paper. He is a well known and respected name. Value wise he is way off the mark.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#31 » by Jordan Syndrome » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:41 pm

ThatBoyNick wrote:As a Rocket fan this is a double edged sword move for the Lakers, they gain Schroeder who did great at breaking our D down in the playoffs, but they lose Danny who is one of the best Harden defenders in the league, they also likely lose Rondo who was a pest on D as well.


Lakers still have Avery Bradley who is a better defender than Green at this point and, let's be honest, nobody is worried about the Rockets at this point.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#32 » by HartfordWhalers » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:42 pm

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ThatBoyNick wrote:As a Rocket fan this is a double edged sword move for the Lakers, they gain Schroeder who did great at breaking our D down in the playoffs, but they lose Danny who is one of the best Harden defenders in the league, they also likely lose Rondo who was a pest on D as well.


Lakers still have Avery Bradley who is a better defender than Green at this point and, let's be honest, nobody is worried about the Rockets at this point.


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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#33 » by Scoot McGroot » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:43 pm

Also, remember that since LA owes a 2021 1st to NO, this deal has to happen AFTER the Lakers draft at 28 (for OKC). So, even when market opens tomorrow afternoon( we won’t see this move until after the 1st round of the draft.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#34 » by stormi » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:44 pm

I feel like the Lakers won the championship off of the philosophy of having a bevy of two way contributers to surround AD and Lebron. Rondo and Green being cogs in the rotation to work tirelessly on either end of the floor. I think Danny Green's rep has overstated his on court ability for a while now, but the new fit with Schröder is interesting. He can definitely absorb some of that scoring burden but he's instantly become their worst defender and someone that can be targeted on p&r's come playoff time.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#35 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:45 pm

Here’s my shot at an ATL deal:

Dedmon, 2022 OKC 1st ret, 2022 ATL 2nd for Green, Muscala

(Muscala done separately)
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#36 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:46 pm

I will say I have been saying for a long time that Schroder would be a great fit in LA, and there were quite a lot of responses that he wouldn’t be and that he’s a poor shooter etc, so it seems we are experiencing quite a bit of revisionism all around.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#37 » by HartfordWhalers » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:47 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Also, remember that since LA owes a 2021 1st to NO, this deal has to happen AFTER the Lakers draft at 28 (for OKC). So, even when market opens tomorrow afternoon( we won’t see this move until after the 1st round of the draft.


Maybe we can get an awkward zoom video of the guy drafted at 28 being asked about playing with Lebron? That was always one of the most underrated draft moments.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#38 » by ThatBoyNick » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:53 pm

Jordan Syndrome wrote:
ThatBoyNick wrote:As a Rocket fan this is a double edged sword move for the Lakers, they gain Schroeder who did great at breaking our D down in the playoffs, but they lose Danny who is one of the best Harden defenders in the league, they also likely lose Rondo who was a pest on D as well.


Lakers still have Avery Bradley who is a better defender than Green at this point and, let's be honest, nobody is worried about the Rockets at this point.


Bradley actually has a player option that he could decline, I’d disagree that’s he’s as good of a defender as Green but he is definitely a plus, and does pretty much the same as DG on offense.

I’m just giving my views on this from my standpoint as a Rocket fan, I’m not saying the Lakers should consider the Rockets when making trades.
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Post#39 » by TGW » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:54 pm

stormi wrote:I feel like the Lakers won the championship off of the philosophy of having a bevy of two way contributers to surround AD and Lebron. Rondo and Green being cogs in the rotation to work tirelessly on either end of the floor. I think Danny Green's rep has overstated his on court ability for a while now, but the new fit with Schröder is interesting. He can definitely absorb some of that scoring burden but he's instantly become their worst defender and someone that can be targeted on p&r's come playoff time.


That's how I see it too. He's also ball dominant, so I don't see how he fits with AD/Bron unless one of them are off he court.
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Re: Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj] 

Post#40 » by jayu70 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:55 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Here’s my shot at an ATL deal:

Dedmon, 2022 OKC 1st ret, 2022 ATL 2nd for Green, Muscala

(Muscala done separately)

Hawks pass. No interest in parting with the OKC 1st for Green.

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