Lakers acquire Schroder [Woj]

[Buzzard]

Here’s my shot at an ATL deal:

Dedmon, 2022 OKC 1st ret, 2022 ATL 2nd for Green, Muscala

(Muscala done separately)

Send Atlanta the right to pick swap 2021 and 2023 1st and you might be on to something.

[Freighttrain]

As a Rocket fan this is a double edged sword move for the Lakers, they gain Schroeder who did great at breaking our D down in the playoffs, but they lose Danny who is one of the best Harden defenders in the league, they also likely lose Rondo who was a pest on D as well.

Lakers still have Avery Bradley who is a better defender than Green at this point and, let's be honest, nobody is worried about the Rockets at this point.

Bradley actually has a player option that he could decline, I’d disagree that’s he’s as good of a defender as Green but he is definitely a plus, and does pretty much the same as DG on offense.

I’m just giving my views on this from my standpoint as a Rocket fan, I’m not saying the Lakers should consider the Rockets when making trades.

That is wrong, Bradley was our best defender, together with AD, this season by far until the season came to a halt. He also signed with another agency and is thinking to opt-out because he thinks he can get more than 5 mil, which would be true and that would definitely hurt us if we lose both Bradley and Green. I'm still wondering what other moves the Lakers will make. Will Kuz still be on the trading block? Does this mean the DeMar rumours have dwindled or is that somehow still in play..

[R-DAWG]

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Is this correct? The pick amount won’t count here, right?

Marks post is poorly worded. What he is saying is the Lakers are close to the hard cap already, so the small savings of not having a 1st rounder 'helps' them. (Of course, he isn't including back a vet min charge).

As for how the trade will be done, it could be done wiha draft pick signed and a 30 day waiting period (?) over, but why would they? Do it now, and the 1st rounder counts as 0 salary for matching.

Unless my math is off, assuming McGee and Bradley opt in, Cook is released ($1MM guaranteed) and Davis resigns starting at $32.7 and KCP at $12.5 - the Lakers have about $18.5 below the apron to work with. That would be enough to use the mid level and bi annual and still have about $5.7MM to play with. The kicker is if they sign 1 player for each exception, they would only have 10 players on the roster. They can get creative with the mid level and split it in half - creating 1 slot about $500k above the taxpayer mid level and 1 lot $500k above the minimum. Plus they can potentially add a ring chaser who would take a discount on a 1 year deal on the bi-annual (about $2MM less than the taxpayer mid level - think a Marc Gasol type). That gets you to 11 roster slots filled with $5.7MM left to round out the roster. I think that's enough space for 2 vet minimums, 1 rookie minimum and 1 2-way player.

It's very tight, and getting KCP closer to $10MM, or finding a team to take McGee or Cook for cash and a 2nd round pick would make this a lot easier.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Here’s my shot at an ATL deal:

Dedmon, 2022 OKC 1st ret, 2022 ATL 2nd for Green, Muscala

(Muscala done separately)

Send Atlanta the right to pick swap 2021 and 2023 1st and you might be on to something.

You must be joking. Green is leagues better than Dedmon and the first is lotto protected.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

I feel like the Lakers won the championship off of the philosophy of having a bevy of two way contributers to surround AD and Lebron. Rondo and Green being cogs in the rotation to work tirelessly on either end of the floor. I think Danny Green's rep has overstated his on court ability for a while now, but the new fit with Schröder is interesting. He can definitely absorb some of that scoring burden but he's instantly become their worst defender and someone that can be targeted on p&r's come playoff time.

That's how I see it too. He's also ball dominant, so I don't see how he fits with AD/Bron unless one of them are off he court.

Rondo is ball dominant and played well with Lebron. Rondo was the lakers worst guard defender. I'm not sold that 35 year Rondo is a better defender than Schroder .

[MoneyTalks41890]

I feel like the Lakers won the championship off of the philosophy of having a bevy of two way contributers to surround AD and Lebron. Rondo and Green being cogs in the rotation to work tirelessly on either end of the floor. I think Danny Green's rep has overstated his on court ability for a while now, but the new fit with Schröder is interesting. He can definitely absorb some of that scoring burden but he's instantly become their worst defender and someone that can be targeted on p&r's come playoff time.

That's how I see it too. He's also ball dominant, so I don't see how he fits with AD/Bron unless one of them are off he court.

Rondo is ball dominant and played well with Lebron. Rondo was the lakers worst guard defender. I'm not sold that 35 year Rondo is a better defender than Schroder .

Schroder was a pretty good defender last year and played off ball a ton. Some folks need to revise their views on what he does.

[Buzzard]

Here’s my shot at an ATL deal:

Dedmon, 2022 OKC 1st ret, 2022 ATL 2nd for Green, Muscala

(Muscala done separately)

Send Atlanta the right to pick swap 2021 and 2023 1st and you might be on to something.

You must be joking. Green is leagues better than Dedmon and the first is lotto protected.

I am not joking. Green is being paid almost 2 million dollars a point. OKC can keep him and play win now with that all by themselves.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Send Atlanta the right to pick swap 2021 and 2023 1st and you might be on to something.

You must be joking. Green is leagues better than Dedmon and the first is lotto protected.

I am not joking. Green is being paid almost 2 million dollars a point. OKC can keep him and play win now with that all by themselves.

Then... what does that make Dedmon?

[Karmaloop]

I am not joking. Green is being paid almost 2 million dollars a point. OKC can keep him and play win now with that all by themselves.

What is Dedmon doing again?

[VCfor3]

I am not joking. Green is being paid almost 2 million dollars a point. OKC can keep him and play win now with that all by themselves.

What is Dedmon doing again?

Getting paid just over $2m a point. #IDidTheMath

I think his exaggerated point is just that the Hawks won't use a (fake) 1st to go from Dedmon's corpse to Green at this time. My guess is that the Hawks prefer playing Cam and Heurter over Green to let them develop unless a substantial upgrade is available at their position (i.e. Jrue).

[Buzzard]

I am not joking. Green is being paid almost 2 million dollars a point. OKC can keep him and play win now with that all by themselves.

What is Dedmon doing again?

About the same at 2 million a point. But Dedmon is the 2nd center for the Hawks now. With the Hawks he averaged about 1.5 million a point.

You obviously love Green as your back up shooting guard and think he has some value. You should keep him at 14.6 million and the Hawks should keep their backup center at 13.3 million.

[Andre Roberstan]

Send Atlanta the right to pick swap 2021 and 2023 1st and you might be on to something.

You must be joking. Green is leagues better than Dedmon and the first is lotto protected.

I am not joking. Green is being paid almost 2 million dollars a point. OKC can keep him and play win now with that all by themselves.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dedmode01.html

[Karmaloop]

About the same at 2 million a point. But Dedmon is the 2nd center for the Hawks now. With the Hawks he averaged about 1.5 million a point.

You obviously love Green as your back up shooting guard and think he has some value. You should keep him at 14.6 million and the Hawks should keep their backup center at 13.3 million.

Which is why the original trade was exponentially more realistic. You're essentially giving up a couple of SRPs to move from Dedmon to Green. If you prefer Green, that's a fair deal.

[Buzzard]

I am not joking. Green is being paid almost 2 million dollars a point. OKC can keep him and play win now with that all by themselves.

What is Dedmon doing again?

Getting paid just over $2m a point. #IDidTheMath

I think his exaggerated point is just that the Hawks won't use a (fake) 1st to go from Dedmon's corpse to Green at this time. My guess is that the Hawks prefer playing Cam and Heurter over Green to let them develop unless a substantial upgrade is available at their position (i.e. Jrue).

This is pretty much it. All the vets like Crabbe and Turner became disgruntled because they could not get playing time. This is the same thing that would happen with Green as well in my opinion. Just like those two he will be playing for his next contract so its best he goes to a team that values him more than their young players.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

That's how I see it too. He's also ball dominant, so I don't see how he fits with AD/Bron unless one of them are off he court.

Rondo is ball dominant and played well with Lebron. Rondo was the lakers worst guard defender. I'm not sold that 35 year Rondo is a better defender than Schroder .

Schroder was a pretty good defender last year and played off ball a ton. Some folks need to revise their views on what he does.

A bit shocked seeing Rondo considered a good defender. He plays the passing lanes and has some IQ so he ain't terrible but he has some flaws. Having AD step up on P &R coverage going to make any guard look like a better defender lol

Think Schroder will be do fine in a Rondo role. I more concerned about Bradley, KCP , Kuzma guarding big wings than can Schroder replace Rondo.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

You must be joking. Green is leagues better than Dedmon and the first is lotto protected.

I am not joking. Green is being paid almost 2 million dollars a point. OKC can keep him and play win now with that all by themselves.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dedmode01.html

Didn't realized Dedmon was paid so much.

[Buzzard]

About the same at 2 million a point. But Dedmon is the 2nd center for the Hawks now. With the Hawks he averaged about 1.5 million a point.

You obviously love Green as your back up shooting guard and think he has some value. You should keep him at 14.6 million and the Hawks should keep their backup center at 13.3 million.

Which is why the original trade was exponentially more realistic. You're essentially giving up a couple of SRPs to move from Dedmon to Green. If you prefer Green, that's a fair deal.

The Hawks don't favor Green when they have Reddish and Huerter.

[stormi]

I'm not sold that 35 year Rondo is a better defender than Schroder .

Rondo is leagues ahead of Schroder defensively even at his elder age. Rondo is like supercomputer the way he processes the game and is a menace at drawing fouls and getting steals. Rondo is also on another level as a playmaker and shot 40% from 3 on over 3 attempts per game for the entireity of the playoffs.

I'd trust Schröder's impact to be a huge weight off of Lebron's shoulders in the regular season time, but come playoffs I'd rather have Rondo ngl.

[MoneyTalks41890]

I am not joking. Green is being paid almost 2 million dollars a point. OKC can keep him and play win now with that all by themselves.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dedmode01.html

Didn't realized Dedmon was paid so much.

And with an extra year. By any measure my deal my very fair. Direction can be a question, but Green >>> Dedmon

[donkeylips]

Steal for the lakers, surprised no one was able to beat that offer