Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread

Galloisdaman · Post #361 » by **Galloisdaman** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:15 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Lots of others on the trade board seem to be convinced green will return some kind of asset. We’ll see.

I hope he does but if Dennis is only worth #28 what can Green be worth?

Well it’s not always what a player is worth in a vacuum but what someone is willing to pay and how many people are interested. Reportedly the bucks were offering 24 but Bledsoe. Are those 4 spots worth another $30 million? Presti probably figures he can get two more picks with that savings. I’ve seen it thrown around about a pick swap with Dallas for green and Delon Wright and filler. That gets okc up to 18.

Again I don’t think the trade is great on its own but a lot is likely going to happen in the next few days which will allow us to evaluate things more clearly.

You are right that you have to look at deals in their entirety but Dennis for #28 alone is not great in my eyes.

Post #362 » by **slick_watts** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:46 pm

1. i'd take rubio and oubre for cp3 without any picks going anywhere and call that a major win. if the #10 pick is involved that's a grand slam.

2. schroder for 28 and d. green is fine.

Post #363 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:00 am

Hey guys!

Many people disappointed about the Schroeder trade but it's fair value. OKC isn't willing to spend money for players that aren't expirings so a late FRP sounds about right. Schroeder had neutral/negative trade value one year ago so...that's good.

Kind of excited but scared about the CP3 trade because he's our last piece to trade. Feel like Presti has leverage but CP3 is such a big voice in the NBA that I'm scared Presti will accept a ''meh'' offer from Phoenix.

I believe another good player may join CP3 if he goes to the Suns (Gallo?) so this trade is more important for them than for us. Ayton/CP3/Booker/Gallo/Bridges is a really really good line up. Pretty much why I believe a pick swap would make sense. But I'm kind of pessimistic about this. We will figure it out soon enough..

Post #364 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:02 am

slick_watts wrote:1. i'd take rubio and oubre for cp3 without any picks going anywhere and call that a major win. if the #10 pick is involved that's a grand slam.

2. schroder for 28 and d. green is fine.

Phx board is posting Vin Fosh saying he’s broken some stories in the last that have us possibly getting back cam Johnson. Seems questionable.

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Post #365 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:04 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
slick_watts wrote:1. i'd take rubio and oubre for cp3 without any picks going anywhere and call that a major win. if the #10 pick is involved that's a grand slam.

2. schroder for 28 and d. green is fine.

Phx board is posting Vin Fosh saying he’s broken some stories in the last that have us possibly getting back cam Johnson. Seems questionable.

Read on Twitter

Is this guy more reliable than the Miami Heat reporters from last summer? :lol:

Post #366 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:06 am

Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
slick_watts wrote:1. i'd take rubio and oubre for cp3 without any picks going anywhere and call that a major win. if the #10 pick is involved that's a grand slam.

2. schroder for 28 and d. green is fine.

Phx board is posting Vin Fosh saying he’s broken some stories in the last that have us possibly getting back cam Johnson. Seems questionable.

Read on Twitter

Is this guy more reliable than the Miami Heat reporters from last summer?

There is another source they are posting that is about on par with the Miami one. A few posters have said he’s broken things in the past. Following the Phx board makes me think there are too many leaks for it to be legit. Wouldn’t surprise me if cp3 end up somewhere else.

Post #367 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:13 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Phx board is posting Vin Fosh saying he’s broken some stories in the last that have us possibly getting back cam Johnson. Seems questionable.

Read on Twitter

Is this guy more reliable than the Miami Heat reporters from last summer?

There is another source they are posting that is about on par with the Miami one. A few posters have said he’s broken things in the past. Following the Phx board makes me think there are too many leaks for it to be legit. Wouldn’t surprise me if cp3 end up somewhere else.

Presti works in silence so yeah many leaks is quite odd (maybe just people guessing things) but since CP3 allowed Presti to talk to teams (if I'm not wrong) this may be different.

Post #368 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:23 am

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Post #369 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:41 am

sign and trade is the only way for miami, unless danilo plays for mle, and i'm not sure miami can hard cap themselves a 2nd season in a row.

national reporters have reported on a cp3 to pho deal so i'm sure it has legs.

spearsy23 · Post #370 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:43 am

Flipping melo for 28 and Danny green sounds lime a pretty good job to me

spearsy23 · Post #371 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:50 am

Wonder if there's any way to move Steven to Houston. Doubt they'll want to continue starting pj at center. New coach might actually try to run some pick and rolls as well...

oreojenkins · Post #372 » by **oreojenkins** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:58 am

Man, I took some heat 2 years ago when I said a) the Schroder deal was a good deal for OKC and b) I wouldn't be shocked if we were able to rehab Schroder's value and flip him down the line. Basically traded Melo and (likely) two second round picks for two years of Schroder, a late first, and a ton of cap relief. Not bad.

spearsy23 · Post #373 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:01 am

Just to follow up on that thought
There was no way perkins could be moved for positive value. Then Kanter got 15mil a year and he was the 'no way' guy. Then melo came in and became the untradeable contract. Then Schroder with serious concerns off the court and bad play for a year.... now that has been turned into a useful, if no longer serviceable, vet and a late first. I think anyone disappointed is forgetting how we got here because of one hot 3pt shooting season from Dennis

jake_swivel · Post #374 » by **jake_swivel** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:06 am

spearsy23 wrote:Wonder if there's any way to move Steven to Houston. Doubt they'll want to continue starting pj at center. New coach might actually try to run some pick and rolls as well...

In the vein of what others have said regarding helping the Clippers, I'd really rather not help Houston in any way. Let that dumpster fire burn hot.

spearsy23 · Post #375 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:08 am

jake_swivel wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Wonder if there's any way to move Steven to Houston. Doubt they'll want to continue starting pj at center. New coach might actually try to run some pick and rolls as well...

In the vein of what others have said regarding helping the Clippers, I'd really rather not help Houston in any way. Let that dumpster fire burn hot.

*whispers*I don't think Steven helps a team*/whisper*

jake_swivel · Post #376 » by **jake_swivel** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:10 am

spearsy23 wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Wonder if there's any way to move Steven to Houston. Doubt they'll want to continue starting pj at center. New coach might actually try to run some pick and rolls as well...

In the vein of what others have said regarding helping the Clippers, I'd really rather not help Houston in any way. Let that dumpster fire burn hot.

*whispers*I don't think Steven helps a team*/whisper*

If nothing else, it gives them one of the better locker room guys in the league that has consistently been on winning teams who isn't 6'5. That helps.

Post #377 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:24 am

How a Adams trade to Houston could work money wise? Don't think we can get some value for him anyway. Maybe at the deadline but it's a long shot. Guess we could get more value with some S&T next season (still believe Presti will keep him)

jake_swivel · Post #378 » by **jake_swivel** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:43 am

Dadouv47 wrote:How a Adams trade to Houston could work money wise? Don't think we can get some value for him anyway. Maybe at the deadline but it's a long shot. Guess we could get more value with some S&T next season (still believe Presti will keep him)

Looks like it'd have to be something like Eric Gordon, PJ Tucker, and filler, which.....super not interested in unless they do away with some of the pick protections. And even then, not really.

Post #379 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:45 am

jake_swivel wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:How a Adams trade to Houston could work money wise? Don't think we can get some value for him anyway. Maybe at the deadline but it's a long shot. Guess we could get more value with some S&T next season (still believe Presti will keep him)

Looks like it'd have to be something like Eric Gordon, PJ Tucker, and filler, which.....super not interested in unless they do away with a lot of the pick protections. And even then, not really.

That's what I thought... Not gonna happen then

Post #380 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:00 am

spearsy23 wrote:Wonder if there's any way to move Steven to Houston. Doubt they'll want to continue starting pj at center. New coach might actually try to run some pick and rolls as well...

For what? Lowered pick protections?