[WOJ]Pistons trade Bruce Brown to Nets...

[Liqourish]

This is really a nothing trade to be honest.

"End of the rotation" guy? Are you talking about Khyri Thomas? Brown started in 99/132 career games.

They are likely to lose Joe Harris, so if Brooklyn doesn't make another move Brown will be the first guard off the bench for them. If they do make another move like trading Dinwiddie, Brown very well could start depending on who they get in return.

I should have stated, "end of a rotation guy on a good team". Maybe that's a bit harsh, more like a #8/#9 on a good team.

I liked the guy and attitude but I don't see what the fuss is about. Weaver is likely in the process of sweeping out the old regime so this is the beginning of that process. I expect Kennard to be next and to be honest, that would hurt because I think he's as underrated around here as Brown has been overrated.

Pistons fans have a habit of falling in love with decent players and hyping them up into players they are not (Bullock, Bynum, Brown). This was a good trade for the Pistons.

[thesack12]

Weaver has shown us something so far - he likes former first round picks as projects.

Maybe a Josh Jackson signing later this week? Harry Giles?

You can get some guys who eventually become decent players with this strategy. However, there is usually a reason why teams cut bait with failed 1st round picks early on. See: Henry Ellenson/Stanley Johnson/Thon Maker/etc.

[vic]

I'm really tired of the Pistons giving away Pistons DNA guys.
KCP just won a championship playing his role.
Donovan Mitchell wanted to be a Piston and is taking the league by storm.

This only makes sense if he plans to draft Isaac Okoro as a replacement.

[thesack12]

I should have stated, "end of a rotation guy on a good team". Maybe that's a bit harsh, more like a #8/#9 on a good team.

I liked the guy and attitude but I don't see what the fuss is about. Weaver is likely in the process of sweeping out the old regime so this is the beginning of that process. I expect Kennard to be next and to be honest, that would hurt because I think he's as underrated around here as Brown has been overrated.

Pistons fans have a habit of falling in love with decent players and hyping them up into players they are not (Bullock, Bynum, Brown). This was a good trade for the Pistons.

I definitely agree with this sentiment. However, IMO it better qualifies to players like Kennard/Afflalo/Pope.

[Liqourish]

I should have stated, "end of a rotation guy on a good team". Maybe that's a bit harsh, more like a #8/#9 on a good team.

I liked the guy and attitude but I don't see what the fuss is about. Weaver is likely in the process of sweeping out the old regime so this is the beginning of that process. I expect Kennard to be next and to be honest, that would hurt because I think he's as underrated around here as Brown has been overrated.

Pistons fans have a habit of falling in love with decent players and hyping them up into players they are not (Bullock, Bynum, Brown). This was a good trade for the Pistons.

I definitely agree with this sentiment. However, IMO it better qualifies to players like Kennard/Afflalo/Pope.

Them as well. Let's add Jerebko and Delfino while we're at it.

When people were talking about the rebuild, Pistons fans said Let's keep Sekou, re-sign Wood and draft a G and build around them. No one mentioned Bruce Brown. Why? Because he's not a guy you build around. He's a defensive bench player you bring in for 20 MPG for a playoff team as a specialist (think Lindsey Hunter). We just did what Weaver said, take on salary short term ($500,000 extra for Musa), to bring in assets (2021 draft pick).

Nets now brought in that 20 mpg bench guy, cut salary, and will have wiggle room to trade some of their guards for one better player and all it cost them was one of three second rounders next season.

This trade worked out for both teams. But Pistons fans will be upset because we overvalue role players.

[davidvolumes]

Appears to be a very good gamble on a prospect. Gave up a hard-nosed player with a low ceiling for a prospect who has Youth and scoring ability. reading the scouting reports he is described as a natural scorer. Very low risk trade. Exactly the kind of Trades weaver should be looking for at this place in time.

[Redeemed]

We dumped a tough competitive grinder of a player for a late second rounder and a guy we will probably waive. This has to be a move with another couple moves in mind.

[zeebneeb]

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I love highlights as much as the next guy but they are so misleading.

This makes this kid look like Luka Doncic.

[thesack12]

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I love highlights as much as the next guy but they are so misleading.

This makes this kid look like Luka Doncic.

Yeah, Highlight videos are about the last thing people should put stock into. They are edited with the specified intention to make somebody look good.

Im sure there was a Walter Sharpe highlight video out in the wild at some point.

[Liqourish]

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I love highlights as much as the next guy but they are so misleading.

This makes this kid look like Luka Doncic.

I think he posted it in response to the twitter video of all missed shots by Musa.

[BJK1]

Weaver has shown us something so far - he likes former first round picks as projects.

Maybe a Josh Jackson signing later this week? Harry Giles?

You can get some guys who eventually become decent players with this strategy. However, there is usually a reason why teams cut bait with failed 1st round picks early on. See: Henry Ellenson/Stanley Johnson/Thon Maker/etc.

Of course. Jackson showed humility and some improvement to his game during his time with Memphis. And Giles is still young with good tools to work with. I’m all about the Pistons using some money to pursue younger players with developmental upside, and these guys appear to have some.

[thesack12]

Pistons fans have a habit of falling in love with decent players and hyping them up into players they are not (Bullock, Bynum, Brown). This was a good trade for the Pistons.

I definitely agree with this sentiment. However, IMO it better qualifies to players like Kennard/Afflalo/Pope.

Them as well. Let's add Jerebko and Delfino while we're at it.

When people were talking about the rebuild, Pistons fans said Let's keep Sekou, re-sign Wood and draft a G and build around them. No one mentioned Bruce Brown. Why? Because he's not a guy you build around. He's a defensive bench player you bring in for 20 MPG for a playoff team as a specialist (think Lindsey Hunter). We just did what Weaver said, take on salary short term ($500,000 extra for Musa), to bring in assets (2021 draft pick).

Nets now brought in that 20 mpg bench guy, cut salary, and will have wiggle room to trade some of their guards for one better player and all it cost them was one of three second rounders next season.

This trade worked out for both teams. But Pistons fans will be upset because we overvalue role players.

Idk, I haven't really seen/heard much talk about people thinking/wanting Brown to be a core type player.

I think people are miffed, that Detroit gifted away a player that played with a sense of grit and style they like. Also, there doesn't really seem to be a reason why the move was made right now. Having Brown around wasn't going to hurt anything, and the pick they got isn't even in this draft. This is the type of move that should have been done at the trade deadline.

[BJK1]

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I love highlights as much as the next guy but they are so misleading.

This makes this kid look like Luka Doncic.

Yeah, Highlight videos are about the last thing people should put stock into. They are edited with the specified intention to make somebody look good.

Im sure there was a Walter Sharpe highlight video out in the wild at some point.

Walter Sharpe. Dear God, what a reference. The Narcoleptic Mamba.

[vic]

You give them a cheap rotational culture building piece that helps them win, get a certified trash player back, and can't even get one of their better 2nd round picks from them.

In no way is this a plus move. (unless there's some secret info on Dzanan Musa like he just got cured from iron deficiency and put on 40 pounds and hired a sports psychiatrist, and his injured hip just got healed).

Bruce Brown is not overpaid, so he's not overvalued.

He did his job well and consistently improved. Even though Coach Casey threw him under the bus by complaining about him not being a point guard, he actually was a quality backup point guard... (which is the role he will probably play for Brooklyn which now looks like the smarter team, because they probably are... because they gave back their worst pick, for a player that will help them win real basketball games).

This isn't looking good for the culture or the iq of this team.

[thesack12]

I love highlights as much as the next guy but they are so misleading.

This makes this kid look like Luka Doncic.

Yeah, Highlight videos are about the last thing people should put stock into. They are edited with the specified intention to make somebody look good.

Im sure there was a Walter Sharpe highlight video out in the wild at some point.

Walter Sharpe. Dear God, what a reference. The Narcoleptic Mamba.

[Kilo]

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I love highlights as much as the next guy but they are so misleading.

This makes this kid look like Luka Doncic.

I think he posted it in response to the twitter video of all missed shots by Musa.

[ducler]

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[NYPiston]

I don’t disagree that Brown is just a rotational player on a good team. But he isn’t an old regime guy. He was drafted by Stefanski with Casey as coach.

Stefanski might be around still but I consider him to be old regime in the sense that he's not calling the shots anymore.
Every player from last years' roster is probably up for auction as is usually the case when a new guy comes in following a failed regime. I expect Weaver to be very busy in the next few weeks.

[Liqourish]

I definitely agree with this sentiment. However, IMO it better qualifies to players like Kennard/Afflalo/Pope.

Them as well. Let's add Jerebko and Delfino while we're at it.

When people were talking about the rebuild, Pistons fans said Let's keep Sekou, re-sign Wood and draft a G and build around them. No one mentioned Bruce Brown. Why? Because he's not a guy you build around. He's a defensive bench player you bring in for 20 MPG for a playoff team as a specialist (think Lindsey Hunter). We just did what Weaver said, take on salary short term ($500,000 extra for Musa), to bring in assets (2021 draft pick).

Nets now brought in that 20 mpg bench guy, cut salary, and will have wiggle room to trade some of their guards for one better player and all it cost them was one of three second rounders next season.

This trade worked out for both teams. But Pistons fans will be upset because we overvalue role players.

Idk, I haven't really seen/heard much talk about people thinking/wanting Brown to be a core type player.

I think people are miffed, that Detroit gifted away a player that played with a sense of grit and style they like. Also, there doesn't really seem to be a reason why the move was made right now. Having Brown around wasn't going to hurt anything, and the pick they got isn't even in this draft. This is the type of move that should have been done at the trade deadline.

Because Troy Weaver is trying to rebuild the team now and not at the deadline. He can use that 2021 pick in a trade now.

[thesack12]

Them as well. Let's add Jerebko and Delfino while we're at it.

When people were talking about the rebuild, Pistons fans said Let's keep Sekou, re-sign Wood and draft a G and build around them. No one mentioned Bruce Brown. Why? Because he's not a guy you build around. He's a defensive bench player you bring in for 20 MPG for a playoff team as a specialist (think Lindsey Hunter). We just did what Weaver said, take on salary short term ($500,000 extra for Musa), to bring in assets (2021 draft pick).

Nets now brought in that 20 mpg bench guy, cut salary, and will have wiggle room to trade some of their guards for one better player and all it cost them was one of three second rounders next season.

This trade worked out for both teams. But Pistons fans will be upset because we overvalue role players.

Idk, I haven't really seen/heard much talk about people thinking/wanting Brown to be a core type player.

I think people are miffed, that Detroit gifted away a player that played with a sense of grit and style they like. Also, there doesn't really seem to be a reason why the move was made right now. Having Brown around wasn't going to hurt anything, and the pick they got isn't even in this draft. This is the type of move that should have been done at the trade deadline.

Because Troy Weaver is trying to rebuild the team now and not at the deadline. He can use that 2021 pick in a trade now.

I don't think Toronto's 2021 2nd (which will likely be in the 50's) is going to make much of a difference on the current trade market, but that's just me.