Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory

[The Real Dalic]

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I know they have multiple picks, but 16 1st rounders... come oooonn, it's getting ridiculous.
I wonder, at what point in time or how many more picks they should acquire before the league officials step in and say to Presti "enough is enough". It's getting crazier and crazier.

Why should the league step in? I personally don't care if they get all 60 picks in this years draft. That's the choice they made and they can do it if they like. Not breaking any rules. So I don't see a problem.

[MaKiaVeLi7]

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I know they have multiple picks, but 16 1st rounders... come oooonn, it's getting ridiculous.
I wonder, at what point in time or how many more picks they should acquire before the league officials step in and say to Presti "enough is enough". It's getting crazier and crazier.

Why should the league step in? I personally don't care if they get all 60 picks in this years draft. That's the choice they made and they can do it if they like. Not breaking any rules. So I don't see a problem.

Sure, Presti is not breaking any current rules or regulations, but the question is do the rules make sense as they are and if it's good for the draft competitiveness league-wide. The possibility of one team accumulating multiple first rounders and controlling the next 4-5 drafts is not good in my opinion.
There are many flawed processes in today's NBA, but I definitely think the league should reconsider trades regulations involving draft picks.

[jonbob17]

I am sure I am just fooling myself waiting for a Magic Wojbomb this week.

[The Real Dalic]

I know they have multiple picks, but 16 1st rounders... come oooonn, it's getting ridiculous.
I wonder, at what point in time or how many more picks they should acquire before the league officials step in and say to Presti "enough is enough". It's getting crazier and crazier.

Why should the league step in? I personally don't care if they get all 60 picks in this years draft. That's the choice they made and they can do it if they like. Not breaking any rules. So I don't see a problem.

Sure, Presti is not breaking any current rules or regulations, but the question is do the rules make sense as they are and if it's good for the draft competitiveness league-wide. The possibility of one team accumulating multiple first rounders and controlling the next 4-5 drafts is not good in my opinion.
There are many flawed processes in today's NBA, but I definitely think the league should reconsider trades regulations involving draft picks.

If you change the way picks are acquired even more, then small markets have yet another way they can get better taken away from them.

[The Real Dalic]

I am sure I am just fooling myself waiting for a Magic Wojbomb this week.

Oh yeah, for sure. Fully expecting a starting lineup of Fultz-Fournier-Ennis-Gordon-Vuc on opening night.

[MaKiaVeLi7]

Why should the league step in? I personally don't care if they get all 60 picks in this years draft. That's the choice they made and they can do it if they like. Not breaking any rules. So I don't see a problem.

Sure, Presti is not breaking any current rules or regulations, but the question is do the rules make sense as they are and if it's good for the draft competitiveness league-wide. The possibility of one team accumulating multiple first rounders and controlling the next 4-5 drafts is not good in my opinion.
There are many flawed processes in today's NBA, but I definitely think the league should reconsider trades regulations involving draft picks.

If you change the way picks are acquired even more, then small markets have yet another way they can get better taken away from them.

Not to that extent, but let's say limit a certain team to 10 picks in the next 5 years excluding their own picks through the years.

[jonbob17]

Sure, Presti is not breaking any current rules or regulations, but the question is do the rules make sense as they are and if it's good for the draft competitiveness league-wide. The possibility of one team accumulating multiple first rounders and controlling the next 4-5 drafts is not good in my opinion.
There are many flawed processes in today's NBA, but I definitely think the league should reconsider trades regulations involving draft picks.

If you change the way picks are acquired even more, then small markets have yet another way they can get better taken away from them.

Not to that extent, but let's say limit a certain team to 10 picks in the next 5 years excluding their own picks through the years.

It's not like they are going to make all the picks. It's ammunition for future trades.

[SOUL]

OKC is definitely going to package some of those for solid players when the time comes, it will be re-distributed in some way.

[MaKiaVeLi7]

If you change the way picks are acquired even more, then small markets have yet another way they can get better taken away from them.

Not to that extent, but let's say limit a certain team to 10 picks in the next 5 years excluding their own picks through the years.

It's not like they are going to make all the picks. It's ammunition for future trades.

That's why I hope Weltman grows a pair soon and snatches 1-2 picks away from them at a reasonable price.

[Trillen]

Anyone talking about league intervention as far as OKC and picks go are overstating it. 16 sounds like a lot, but when you break it down as:

2020: 1 First
2021: 2 Firsts
2022: 1 First & Phx if not top-12
2023: 2 & LAC Swap & Phx if not top-10
2024: 3 & Phx if not top-8
2025: 1 & Hou/LAC Swap Option & Phx if hasn't conveyed
2026: 3

Yes, it's a heck of a lot of picks, but each year it ends up usually only being one or two firsts. It's not like OKC will own the first half of any draft. The closest is maybe 2024 with max 4 first rounders. Either way, by then they'll have drafted so many young guys that it's not really sustainable to just keep drafting more and more rookies, or they'll have traded some number of picks away for something else to build on.

[Skin]

OKC is the opposite of our team. They were an actually good team in a competitive conference who weren't satisfied with mediocrity and decided to blow it up for picks.

Sam Presti playing chess when we are playing checkers.

[SOUL]

OKC is the opposite of our team. They were an actually good team in a competitive conference who weren't satisfied with mediocrity and decided to blow it up for picks.

Sam Presti playing chess when we are playing checkers.

Someone on Twitter wrote "I'd rather be 8th seed for 10 years than tank again" as if the only two options are completely tearing it down for 4-5 years or ramming the same players down our throats to an 8th seed. Truly remarkable brain capacity for some of our fans.

[MaKiaVeLi7]

I must say I am jealous of their future first rounders.
Keep in mind that when they do not receive a certain pick because of its top10 or top 12 protection, the pick is still owed in the next couple of years with even leas protection clauses. I totally expect them to be major players with multiple picks in the top 10 range between 2024-26 or even beyond (in case they intend on keeping them of course).
Pretty pretty jealous.

Anyone talking about league intervention as far as OKC and picks go are overstating it. 16 sounds like a lot, but when you break it down as:

2020: 1 First
2021: 2 Firsts
2022: 1 First & Phx if not top-12
2023: 2 & LAC Swap & Phx if not top-10
2024: 3 & Phx if not top-8
2025: 1 & Hou/LAC Swap Option & Phx if hasn't conveyed
2026: 3

Yes, it's a heck of a lot of picks, but each year it ends up usually only being one or two firsts. It's not like OKC will own the first half of any draft. The closest is maybe 2024 with max 4 first rounders. Either way, by then they'll have drafted so many young guys that it's not really sustainable to just keep drafting more and more rookies, or they'll have traded some number of picks away for something else to build on.

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[penny_nz]

OKC is the opposite of our team. They were an actually good team in a competitive conference who weren't satisfied with mediocrity and decided to blow it up for picks.

Sam Presti playing chess when we are playing checkers.

We're barely playing join the dots...

[Ducklett]

OKC is the opposite of our team. They were an actually good team in a competitive conference who weren't satisfied with mediocrity and decided to blow it up for picks.

Sam Presti playing chess when we are playing checkers.

We're barely playing join the dots...

We have people running our org? I thought it was just using some algorithm a la Twitch Plays Pokemon.

[MaKiaVeLi7]

OKC is the opposite of our team. They were an actually good team in a competitive conference who weren't satisfied with mediocrity and decided to blow it up for picks.

Sam Presti playing chess when we are playing checkers.

We're barely playing join the dots...

Nooo, we are playing the "waiting" and "continuity game", remember?
"I like our team" kinda stuff

[The Effect]

Seeing what the suns did with Oubre....Wonder if that says anything about gordons value?
They had to use oubre to buy CP3 and his contract....is that the route we have to go with AG? is that the best case scenario for us, a supermax vet? i really hope not, but who knows. Maybe the Westbrook rumors might hold a little water?

[penny_nz]

Sam Presti playing chess when we are playing checkers.

We're barely playing join the dots...

Nooo, we are playing the "waiting" and "continuity game", remember?
"I like our team" kinda stuff

Team isn't going to evaluate itself

[Skin]

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[MaKiaVeLi7]

We're barely playing join the dots...

Nooo, we are playing the "waiting" and "continuity game", remember?
"I like our team" kinda stuff

Team isn't going to evaluate itself

That's why we need a two-headed GM monster in WeHam
Sooo many young talent and potential on our team, so many up and coming all-stars, need to evaluate all of them for a looong looong time.