Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Possible DJ Augustin pg 64

[Turk Nowitzki]

I'm sick of players dictating their "preferred" destination. Buddy isn't a free agent.

I've seemed to miss where he was a player good enough to demand a trade.

Also, there is also the kicker of him wanting out for several years...
https://www.nba.com/news/report-hield-kings-agree-extension
..but he literally signed an extension last off-season.

I do think that players now think they can take the money and then just demand a trade later on when they feel like it.

[Chuck Diesel]

Bucks showed more interest in Schroder vs Paul is the word.

Hopefully it’s because Giannis just didn’t want to play with him.

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That is the reason.

[LedZepp007]

Bucks showed more interest in Schroder vs Paul is the word.

Hopefully it’s because Giannis just didn’t want to play with him.

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I think this is good. Presumably it means there is a plan.


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[StickeeFingaz]

Eventually Horst is going to have to really go for it and push all the chips into the middle of the table. I don't know what that is but you can't keep trading first round picks for role players, overpaying players, trading more firsts to get rid of overpaid players.

When has Horst done any of that? Other than Snell, which might not have even been fully his decision considering how recently he had gotten the job, he hasn't handed out a single contract with negative value and hasn't traded a single pick that projects to be even in the top-20. And all the guys he traded a first-round pick for have been very productive relative to the cost of the protected picks he traded (Mirotic only required second-rounders).

You know he didn't sign Monroe, Henson, Mirza, Sanders, Leuer, or Dellavedova, right?

Drafted DJ Wilson (essentially giving away a first round pick, might actually be worse because he takes up a roster spot). Signed Tony Snell to a dumbass deal the second the clock struck midnight, then needed to include a first to get rid of him. Signed Eric Bledsoe to a long term deal after he sh@t the bed in the playoffs and now will likely need to include a first to get rid of him, all while prioritizing Bledsoe over Brogdon who was maybe our best player against Toronto. Gave Middleton a huge contract but I'm told he's worth every penny and his contract could be used to trade for a disgruntled star, but if you start your trade package for a disgruntled star with Middleton you're not getting a return call.

Horst was also part of the front office that did sign all of those bad deals that you mentioned, in fact, I believe he went by the moniker of "Cap Guru". What about missing out on a trade exception because of when/how he signed George Hill?

I mean he keeps shooting himself in the foot.

[mubucks00]

Agree, hoping it means we are not desperate. This is a 6 year plan we are going for. That's how optimistic me is reading it.

[coolhandluke121]

Eventually Horst is going to have to really go for it and push all the chips into the middle of the table. I don't know what that is but you can't keep trading first round picks for role players, overpaying players, trading more firsts to get rid of overpaid players.

When has Horst done any of that? Other than Snell, which might not have even been fully his decision considering how recently he had gotten the job, he hasn't handed out a single contract with negative value and hasn't traded a single pick that projects to be even in the top-20. And all the guys he traded a first-round pick for have been very productive relative to the cost of the protected picks he traded (Mirotic only required second-rounders).

You know he didn't sign Monroe, Henson, Mirza, Sanders, Leuer, or Dellavedova, right?

Drafted DJ Wilson (essentially giving away a first round pick, might actually be worse because he takes up a roster spot). Signed Tony Snell to a dumbass deal the second the clock struck midnight, then needed to include a first to get rid of him. Signed Eric Bledsoe to a long term deal after he sh@t the bed in the playoffs and now will likely need to include a first to get rid of him, all while prioritizing Bledsoe over Brogdon who was maybe our best player against Toronto. Gave Middleton a huge contract but I'm told he's worth every penny and his contract could be used to trade for a disgruntled star, but if you start your trade package for a disgruntled star with Middleton you're not getting a return call.

Horst was also part of the front office that did sign all of those bad deals that you mentioned. What about missing out on a trade exception because of how he signed George Hill?

I mean he keeps shooting himself in the foot.

Wow, wonder how they had the best record two years in a row after inheriting Giannis, Khris, and a gd Kidd-special dumpster fire of biblical proportions then.

[LittleRooster]

Eventually Horst is going to have to really go for it and push all the chips into the middle of the table. I don't know what that is but you can't keep trading first round picks for role players, overpaying players, trading more firsts to get rid of overpaid players.

When has Horst done any of that? Other than Snell, which might not have even been fully his decision considering how recently he had gotten the job, he hasn't handed out a single contract with negative value and hasn't traded a single pick that projects to be even in the top-20. And all the guys he traded a first-round pick for have been very productive relative to the cost of the protected picks he traded (Mirotic only required second-rounders).

You know he didn't sign Monroe, Henson, Mirza, Sanders, Leuer, or Dellavedova, right?

Drafted DJ Wilson (essentially giving away a first round pick, might actually be worse because he takes up a roster spot). Signed Tony Snell to a dumbass deal the second the clock struck midnight, then needed to include a first to get rid of him. Signed Eric Bledsoe to a long term deal after he sh@t the bed in the playoffs and now will likely need to include a first to get rid of him, all while prioritizing Bledsoe over Brogdon who was maybe our best player against Toronto. Gave Middleton a huge contract but I'm told he's worth every penny and his contract could be used to trade for a disgruntled star, but if you start your trade package for a disgruntled star with Middleton you're not getting a return call.

Horst was also part of the front office that did sign all of those bad deals that you mentioned. What about missing out on a trade exception because of when/how he signed George Hill?

I mean he keeps shooting himself in the foot.

He signed Bledsoe before the playoffs


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[bucksbrewers3]

I'm sick of players dictating their "preferred" destination. Buddy isn't a free agent.

Harden either. If I were Houston I’d be like ok Washington I’ll take beal and wall. Good luck harden until 2023

[StickeeFingaz]

When has Horst done any of that? Other than Snell, which might not have even been fully his decision considering how recently he had gotten the job, he hasn't handed out a single contract with negative value and hasn't traded a single pick that projects to be even in the top-20. And all the guys he traded a first-round pick for have been very productive relative to the cost of the protected picks he traded (Mirotic only required second-rounders).


You know he didn't sign Monroe, Henson, Mirza, Sanders, Leuer, or Dellavedova, right?

Drafted DJ Wilson (essentially giving away a first round pick, might actually be worse because he takes up a roster spot). Signed Tony Snell to a dumbass deal the second the clock struck midnight, then needed to include a first to get rid of him. Signed Eric Bledsoe to a long term deal after he sh@t the bed in the playoffs and now will likely need to include a first to get rid of him, all while prioritizing Bledsoe over Brogdon who was maybe our best player against Toronto. Gave Middleton a huge contract but I'm told he's worth every penny and his contract could be used to trade for a disgruntled star, but if you start your trade package for a disgruntled star with Middleton you're not getting a return call.

Horst was also part of the front office that did sign all of those bad deals that you mentioned. What about missing out on a trade exception because of when/how he signed George Hill?

I mean he keeps shooting himself in the foot.

He signed Bledsoe before the playoffs


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But after he was emasculated by Terry Rozier.

[WRau1]

Eventually Horst is going to have to really go for it and push all the chips into the middle of the table. I don't know what that is but you can't keep trading first round picks for role players, overpaying players, trading more firsts to get rid of overpaid players.

When has Horst done any of that? Other than Snell, which might not have even been fully his decision considering how recently he had gotten the job, he hasn't handed out a single contract with negative value and hasn't traded a single pick that projects to be even in the top-20. And all the guys he traded a first-round pick for have been very productive relative to the cost of the protected picks he traded (Mirotic only required second-rounders).

You know he didn't sign Monroe, Henson, Mirza, Sanders, Leuer, or Dellavedova, right?

Drafted DJ Wilson (essentially giving away a first round pick, might actually be worse because he takes up a roster spot). Signed Tony Snell to a dumbass deal the second the clock struck midnight, then needed to include a first to get rid of him. Signed Eric Bledsoe to a long term deal after he sh@t the bed in the playoffs and now will likely need to include a first to get rid of him, all while prioritizing Bledsoe over Brogdon who was maybe our best player against Toronto. Gave Middleton a huge contract but I'm told he's worth every penny and his contract could be used to trade for a disgruntled star, but if you start your trade package for a disgruntled star with Middleton you're not getting a return call.

Horst was also part of the front office that did sign all of those bad deals that you mentioned, in fact, I believe he went by the moniker of "Cap Guru". What about missing out on a trade exception because of when/how he signed George Hill?

I mean he keeps shooting himself in the foot.

Bucks definitely don't have to include a 1st to get rid of Bledsoe.

[blazza18]

The Horst defenders have a long way to go to match Hammonds clan but they're inching closer and closer every day.

[StickeeFingaz]

When has Horst done any of that? Other than Snell, which might not have even been fully his decision considering how recently he had gotten the job, he hasn't handed out a single contract with negative value and hasn't traded a single pick that projects to be even in the top-20. And all the guys he traded a first-round pick for have been very productive relative to the cost of the protected picks he traded (Mirotic only required second-rounders).

You know he didn't sign Monroe, Henson, Mirza, Sanders, Leuer, or Dellavedova, right?

Drafted DJ Wilson (essentially giving away a first round pick, might actually be worse because he takes up a roster spot). Signed Tony Snell to a dumbass deal the second the clock struck midnight, then needed to include a first to get rid of him. Signed Eric Bledsoe to a long term deal after he sh@t the bed in the playoffs and now will likely need to include a first to get rid of him, all while prioritizing Bledsoe over Brogdon who was maybe our best player against Toronto. Gave Middleton a huge contract but I'm told he's worth every penny and his contract could be used to trade for a disgruntled star, but if you start your trade package for a disgruntled star with Middleton you're not getting a return call.

Horst was also part of the front office that did sign all of those bad deals that you mentioned, in fact, I believe he went by the moniker of "Cap Guru". What about missing out on a trade exception because of when/how he signed George Hill?

I mean he keeps shooting himself in the foot.

Bucks definitely don't have to include a 1st to get rid of Bledsoe.

I think they'll have to include #24 + Bledsoe to get anything of value in return but I hope to be proven wrong.

[Baddy Chuck]

So what is the plan to add Rubio and Bogdanovic through trades while signing DeMarcus Cousins as the backup center and keeping Wes.

[benultimate]

Buddy would be a great fit next to Doncic if he can get there. In a no defence, flame throwing offence kind of way.

[Cooleyo47]

Bucks showed more interest in Schroder vs Paul is the word.

Hopefully it’s because Giannis just didn’t want to play with him.

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That is the reason.

Giannis prefers to play with international guys.

Guys like Bogdan, Gallinari and Ibaka certainly fit that bill.

[Prez]

Buddy Hield seems like a toolbox. Rips on Sacramento before getting paid, Sacramento pays him his money (and overpaid a lot for him) and they start him over frankly a better player than him (Bogdan) for months, and now he’s trying to force his way to a shortlist of teams? FOH

[Chuck Diesel]

I’m of two minds. It’s definitely annoying when players sign a contract and try to force their way out within a year, but it’s tough to blame guys for wanting to flee garbage franchises like the Kings. Is what it is.

[WRau1]

So what is the plan to add Rubio and Bogdanovic through trades while signing DeMarcus Cousins as the backup center and keeping Wes.

Bledsoe to NYK for TPE and future 1st.
Rubio to MIL via TPE and future 1st.
Ersan, Wilson, 24th s&t for Bogdan.
Split MLE on Wes and Cousins.

[thrice123]

I would be just fine with this

So what is the plan to add Rubio and Bogdanovic through trades while signing DeMarcus Cousins as the backup center and keeping Wes.

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[jakecronus8]

Going through Bucks Twitter is annoying.

Everyone on there expects the Bucks to make a big move while retaining Giannis, Khris, and Brook.

ETA: most also consider Donte untouchable.