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Post#181 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:44 am

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Baddy Chuck wrote:So what is the plan to add Rubio and Bogdanovic through trades while signing DeMarcus Cousins as the backup center and keeping Wes.


Bledsoe to NYK for TPE and future 1st.
Rubio to MIL via TPE and future 1st.
Ersan, Wilson, 24th s&t for Bogdan.
Split MLE on Wes and Cousins.

I'm in. Might even have enough left over for RHJ.
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Post#182 » by WRau1 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:46 am

jakecronus8 wrote:Going through Bucks Twitter is annoying.

Everyone on there expects the Bucks to make a big move while retaining Giannis, Khris, and Brook.

ETA: most also consider Donte untouchable. :roll:


Same across all social media, all you see is people wanting Dame, Booker or Beal for like Ersan and Korver.
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Post#183 » by randy84 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:46 am

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raferfenix wrote:Bucks showed more interest in Schroder vs Paul is the word.

Hopefully it’s because Giannis just didn’t want to play with him.

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I think this is good. Presumably it means there is a plan.


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Unfortunately the plan was Schroder. Now there is no plan.
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Post#184 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:46 am

WRau1 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:So what is the plan to add Rubio and Bogdanovic through trades while signing DeMarcus Cousins as the backup center and keeping Wes.


Bledsoe to NYK for TPE and future 1st.
Rubio to MIL via TPE and future 1st.
Ersan, Wilson, 24th s&t for Bogdan.
Split MLE on Wes and Cousins.


Could maybe see NY absorbing Bledsoe but doubt they’d include a pick. It would likely be the other way around. I also don’t think Ersan and Wilson’s salaries are close to matching what BB will make in his first year.
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Post#185 » by bucksbrewers3 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:54 am

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LedZepp007 wrote:
raferfenix wrote:Bucks showed more interest in Schroder vs Paul is the word.

Hopefully it’s because Giannis just didn’t want to play with him.

Read on Twitter


I think this is good. Presumably it means there is a plan.


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Unfortunately the plan was Schroder. Now there is no plan.



I just want to know based on what the lakers offered what we offered that wasn’t good enough
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Post#186 » by blazza18 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:55 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:I’m of two minds. It’s definitely annoying when players sign a contract and try to force their way out within a year, but it’s tough to blame guys for wanting to flee garbage franchises like the Kings. Is what it is.


Specially when you remember these guys don't get to choose where they're drafted/traded to and are literally restricted in where they can eventually go to when they can be free agents.
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Post#187 » by slos » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:57 am

So let's say that Kings agree in a s/t Bogdan (4y/70-80mil) for Ersan, Wilson and #24. If that's the plan why didn't Horst just match for Brogdon in the first place?
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Post#188 » by RiotPunch » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:58 am

WRau1 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:So what is the plan to add Rubio and Bogdanovic through trades while signing DeMarcus Cousins as the backup center and keeping Wes.


Bledsoe to NYK for TPE and future 1st.
Rubio to MIL via TPE and future 1st.
Ersan, Wilson, 24th s&t for Bogdan.
Split MLE on Wes and Cousins.

A Bledsoe TPE wouldn't be quite big enough to absorb Rubio. Falls just $125,000 short. Basically just expand the deal to add in NYK, sending #27 to OKC and Rubio to MKE.

MKE: Rubio
NYK: Bledsoe
OKC: Oubre, Jerome, Lecque, #27, PHX '22 1st (Top-10)
PHX: Paul, Nader

Then:

MKE: Bogdanovic (S&T)
SAC: Ilyasova, Wilson, MKE '24 1st, '25 swap rights

Then:

Sign Cousins (Partial MLE)
Sign Wes (Partial MLE)

Rubio / Hill
Bogdanovic / DiVincenzo
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Giannis / #24
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Post#189 » by zimpy27 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:58 am

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randy84 wrote:
LedZepp007 wrote:
I think this is good. Presumably it means there is a plan.


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Unfortunately the plan was Schroder. Now there is no plan.



I just want to know based on what the lakers offered what we offered that wasn’t good enough


Maybe Bledsoe and pick 24?

Better pick but much more salary and Green/Bledsoe are pretty equal in player impact
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Post#190 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:59 am

slos wrote:So let's say that Kings agree in a s/t Bogdan (4y/70-80mil) for Ersan, Wilson and #24. If that's the plan why didn't Horst just match for Brogdon in the first place?

One could argue Bogdan is a much better fit for the team and just simply you can admit mistakes.
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Post#191 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:59 am

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pifhluk23 wrote:I see I'm not the only one gassing up the tank. We don't have a clear path to improve the team while our competition in the East gets stronger. Prepare yourselves for Giannis trades.

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Post#192 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 am

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Baddy Chuck wrote:Also what does the free agent market look like for Alexey Shved.


Shved is busy forming a lethal one-two punch with Greg Monroe in the outskirts of Moscow. They’re not winning and the team’s been ravaged by Covid, but boy do they make me smile.

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Post#193 » by RiotPunch » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 am

slos wrote:So let's say that Kings agree in a s/t Bogdan (4y/70-80mil) for Ersan, Wilson and #24. If that's the plan why didn't Horst just match for Brogdon in the first place?

Because Bogdan has a cleaner history of health and is fine with accepting a role that helps the team?
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Post#194 » by bucksbrewers3 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 am

zimpy27 wrote:
bucksbrewers3 wrote:
randy84 wrote:
Unfortunately the plan was Schroder. Now there is no plan.



I just want to know based on what the lakers offered what we offered that wasn’t good enough


Maybe Bledsoe and pick 24?

Better pick but much more salary and Green/Bledsoe are pretty equal in player impact


That’s what I’m saying. It just doesn’t make sense. That’s better than the reported 28th pick and green.
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Post#195 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:03 am

We all need to be prepared to be disappointed.

To me the only way to make the big move is if you have a perfect combo of disgruntled star and team that doesn’t want to go into a rebuild similar to the Kawhi/Toronto situation. If this opportunity is there and you can cash out on Middleton, you do it. His value will never be lower.

Everyone wants Bledsoe gone. While I understand the sentiment, his value conversely has never been lower. He’s a good basketball player that is likely worth way more to the Bucks on the court than in a trade. I’d be working to get a complimentary player to him that allows him to focus on his strengths and masks his deficiencies. Bogdanovic fits that mold. Can be the ball handler in a half court situation and allows Bledsoe to focus on being a hustle guy on offense and a bulldog on defense.

The best course of action is likely to mostly run it back and hope & pray that the bubble killed the season. Tinkering with ancillary pieces likely won’t change much.
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Post#196 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:04 am

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pifhluk23 wrote:I see I'm not the only one gassing up the tank. We don't have a clear path to improve the team while our competition in the East gets stronger. Prepare yourselves for Giannis trades.

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Post#197 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:04 am

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Chuck Diesel wrote:I’m of two minds. It’s definitely annoying when players sign a contract and try to force their way out within a year, but it’s tough to blame guys for wanting to flee garbage franchises like the Kings. Is what it is.


Specially when you remember these guys don't get to choose where they're drafted/traded to and are literally restricted in where they can eventually go to when they can be free agents.

Yes and no. Sports are unique where a guy from Greece is randomly drafted to Milwaukee and fans suddenly expect him to live there for his next 15 years (unless he gets hurt and we decide to trade him).

But these guys also have choices besides demanding trades. We all have the choices in our jobs where pay might might be better in either a crappy field or crappy location. If you are a doctor, you don't sign a premium to work in a remote area, and then tried to get transferred to your preferred location at the same pay. I know there a better jobs than the one I have, but I like pay. If you want to play in New York, 'finish your residency' at non-preferred team, take a discounted contract in New York with player options in case you want out or they think of trading you. I don't blame guys for wanting to live in a different area (I know I would hope I got drafted to an awesome city) but it is tone-deaf and annoying to take the money and then complain about it.
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Post#198 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:05 am

What do you guys think? Let's Zapruder film this video.

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Post#199 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:07 am

SupremeHustle wrote:What do you guys think? Let's Zapruder film this video.

Spoiler:
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To me, it sounds like Horst is laying back and letting his rivals make big money mistakes then the Bucks come in a trade for a legit #2 while picking up some young snipers from around the globe.




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Post#200 » by Matches Malone » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:08 am

Hoping that's just GM speak, cause this core that's intact sucks.
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