BaF Season 4- Opening Night 12/1- (Announcement page 57)

3toheadmelo · Post #921 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:49 am

bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:I just don't see him getting a bump of 2 stars all in 1 year, I could be wrong. Just my guesses. How would you break it down? They are some players I included that I typically wouldn't but they were rated very high last year and did not digress much YOY so couldn't decrease rating just based on that.

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I don’t see how an all star irl is going to be just 3 stars. Doesn’t make any sense to me
Could be 3.5 stars. Kyle lowry has been like a 5 time consecutive Allstar and has been as high as a 3 star rating

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Cause Kyle Lowry chokes in the playoffs

bringbackhoffa · Post #922 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:50 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I don’t see how an all star irl is going to be just 3 stars. Doesn’t make any sense to me
Could be 3.5 stars. Kyle lowry has been like a 5 time consecutive Allstar and has been as high as a 3 star rating

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Cause Kyle Lowry chokes in the playoffs

Who would you remove Ayton? He has never been an allstar?

NewEra · Post #923 » by **NewEra** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:50 am

bringbackhoffa wrote:
NewEra wrote:I mean, is it a secret? Bish, can you just tell us which players currently have those ratings you listed? We understand it may not be final, but it seems guys are curious.
I wouldnt want those to be released could impact trade discussions or give an advantage to those teams that have those players in negotiations. Either they all get released or none

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Oh I see. Blockbusters are still being discussed this late in the off-season? Lol. Doesn’t bother me either way. Just saw y’all guessing, and figured maybe Bish could just end the speculations by releasing the names. I understand your concern though.

El Poochio · Post #924 » by **El Poochio** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:53 am

Butler will be 4.5 stars before Booker Zion and 4.0 over nearly everyone in that list

Never know with SIM though wouldnt have expected him be 3.5 last season either

bringbackhoffa · Post #925 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:55 am

Will this years rookie class be included in the SIM?

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3toheadmelo · Post #926 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:56 am

bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:Could be 3.5 stars. Kyle lowry has been like a 5 time consecutive Allstar and has been as high as a 3 star rating

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Cause Kyle Lowry chokes in the playoffs

Who would you remove Ayton? He has never been an allstar?

Collins

bringbackhoffa · Post #927 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:56 am

El Poochio wrote:Butler will be 4.5 stars before Booker Zion and 4.0 over nearly everyone in that list

Never know with SIM though wouldnt have expected him be 3.5 last season either

Sub 20ppg wings or guards don't get rated 4 stars from what I can see

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bringbackhoffa · Post #928 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:57 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Cause Kyle Lowry chokes in the playoffs

Who would you remove Ayton? He has never been an allstar?

Collins

I could see that but collins overall stats are slightly better when you take into defensive win share which thr SiM has been taking into account over ayton

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El Poochio · Post #929 » by **El Poochio** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:58 am

bringbackhoffa wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Butler will be 4.5 stars before Booker Zion and 4.0 over nearly everyone in that list

Never know with SIM though wouldnt have expected him be 3.5 last season either
Sub 20ppg wings or guards don't get rated 4 stars from what I can see

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Klay was 3.0 stars there is no logic to this

bringbackhoffa · Post #930 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:00 am

El Poochio wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Butler will be 4.5 stars before Booker Zion and 4.0 over nearly everyone in that list

Never know with SIM though wouldnt have expected him be 3.5 last season either
Sub 20ppg wings or guards don't get rated 4 stars from what I can see

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Klay was 3.0 stars there is no logic to this

Yea I was shocked when I saw that I had him at 4.5 stars and then saw his ranking from last year and removed him from the list all together considering derozan was 4 stars last year but if you look at it klay only put up 20ppg a year ago which leads you to believe ppg is important for guards

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3toheadmelo · Post #931 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:00 am

bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
Who would you remove Ayton? He has never been an allstar?

Collins
I could see that but collins overall stats are slightly better when you take into defensive win share which thr SiM has been taking into account over ayton

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How do you know they’re using defensive win shares only?

El Poochio · Post #932 » by **El Poochio** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 am

Feels like a wasted year when I had PG13 4.5 stars last season ffs

El Poochio · Post #933 » by **El Poochio** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:02 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Collins
I could see that but collins overall stats are slightly better when you take into defensive win share which thr SiM has been taking into account over ayton

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How do you know they’re using defensive win shares only?

bringbackhoffa · Post #934 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:02 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Collins
I could see that but collins overall stats are slightly better when you take into defensive win share which thr SiM has been taking into account over ayton

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How do you know they’re using defensive win shares only?

Just a hunch and for sure not the only metrics used but easiest for me to look up and measure against previous ratings

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bringbackhoffa · Post #935 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:04 am

El Poochio wrote:Feels like a wasted year when I had PG13 4.5 stars last season ffs

Sure was but trae gets that bump

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Slicin N Dicin · Post #936 » by **Slicin N Dicin** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:05 am

bringbackhoffa wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Butler will be 4.5 stars before Booker Zion and 4.0 over nearly everyone in that list

Never know with SIM though wouldnt have expected him be 3.5 last season either
Sub 20ppg wings or guards don't get rated 4 stars from what I can see

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Jimmy averaged 19.9 so basically 20 with 6.7 boards and 6 assists

Last year he was 18.2/5.3/4

Playoff run was 22.2/6.5/6

Stat increase to almost 20/7/6 while being a defensive dog and leading that Heat team to the finals? If thats not a minimum 4 star player at the very least there is something broken. Just stating my case for my alpha dog

bringbackhoffa · Post #937 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:09 am

Slicin N Dicin wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Butler will be 4.5 stars before Booker Zion and 4.0 over nearly everyone in that list

Never know with SIM though wouldnt have expected him be 3.5 last season either
Sub 20ppg wings or guards don't get rated 4 stars from what I can see

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Jimmy averaged 19.9 so basically 20 with 6.7 boards and 6 assists

Last year he was 18.2/5.3/4

Playoff run was 22.2/6.5/6

Stat increase to almost 20/7/6 while being a defensive dog and leading that Heat team to the finals? If thats not a minimum 4 star player at the very least there is something broken. Just stating my case for my alpha dog

Klay was 3 stars with slightly lesser stats..

bishnykfan · Post #938 » by **bishnykfan** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:10 am

NewEra wrote:I mean, is it a secret? Bish, can you just tell us which players currently have those ratings you listed? We understand it may not be final, but it seems guys are curious.

No secret...Just wasn't sure if people wanted to know them or wait and get them all at once when things are official. Honestly, I'd hate to post these ratings and then have someone get demoted before our season starts lol. But if enough people want them maybe I'll post each teams highest rated player or something like that to try and be fair to everyone?

bringbackhoffa · Post #939 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:10 am

But loving this discussion was quiet the past few days

El Poochio · Post #940 » by **El Poochio** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:18 am

bringbackhoffa wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Feels like a wasted year when I had PG13 4.5 stars last season ffs
Sure was but trae gets that bump

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Dont jinx