2020 Pre-Draft Discussion

[JMAC3]

Yeah because Miles isn't a solid starter by any metric and we're getting to the point where we should sell high on the guy.

I’m lost bro.

You hate Harden, Bridges sucks, You don’t want to take a chance on Ball....

What do you believe in? What do you want the team to do?

Not cut our long term plans towards cap freedom short for a guy that plateaued years ago, and continue to develop players who show real progress and are receptive to coaching?

absolute madness i guess

Nobody is saying a Harden trade is likely. I’m talking more in terms of this draft. Who you taking? Who you trading Bridges for? Are you moving to 1?

[Diop]

Teams that win in current NBA. Superstar players that can score 30 and get 7+ assists.

Ball has that potential.

People are too focused on finding a Lebron clone. The Nuggets, Spurs, Raptors, current Heat, etc. didn't have a player like that and did just fine. What wins in the NBA is a combination of talent, basketball IQ, hard work, and adaptability. You don't have to find a Lebron like player to win in the NBA.

Nuggets - Murray and Jokic
Spurs - Kawhi
Raptors - Lowry/Kawhi
Heat - Butler

Literally all those teams had dudes who can put up 30 and 7 assists on any given night

we had one of those, we traded him to Boston

[DY_nasty]

I’m lost bro.

You hate Harden, Bridges sucks, You don’t want to take a chance on Ball....

What do you believe in? What do you want the team to do?

Not cut our long term plans towards cap freedom short for a guy that plateaued years ago, and continue to develop players who show real progress and are receptive to coaching?

absolute madness i guess

Nobody is saying a Harden trade is likely. I’m talking more in terms of this draft. Who you taking? Who you trading Bridges for? Are you moving to 1?

I'll trade Bridges for a quality, cheap league average or net zero starter - like I said. Bridges is like a negative 10 last I checked... And if us trading back includes Bridges? I wouldn't lose sleep over it because there's plenty of guys younger than him that could probably do the same thing on a clean slate with the 30 minutes a game he gets.

And I'll take pretty much any of the top guys in this draft outside of the kid who gets called an elite playmaker despite not having a single showing against a high level defender or defense despite traveling the world. Or the kid who says he doesn't need to fix his obviously busted jumper. Fortunately, they're the same guy I've never seen someone get credit for instant, NBA level passing after essentially years of high level scrimmage play. That's just incredible to me how everyone is eating it up.

I'd be okay with Obi over Ball tbh.

[JMAC3]

Not cut our long term plans towards cap freedom short for a guy that plateaued years ago, and continue to develop players who show real progress and are receptive to coaching?

absolute madness i guess

Nobody is saying a Harden trade is likely. I’m talking more in terms of this draft. Who you taking? Who you trading Bridges for? Are you moving to 1?

I'll trade Bridges for a quality, cheap league average or net zero starter - like I said. Bridges is like a negative 10 last I checked... And if us trading back includes Bridges? I wouldn't lose sleep over it because there's plenty of guys younger than him that could probably do the same thing on a clean slate with the 30 minutes a game he gets.

And I'll take pretty much any of the top guys in this draft outside of the kid who gets called an elite playmaker despite not having a single showing against a high level defender or defense despite traveling the world. Or the kid who says he doesn't need to fix his obviously busted jumper. Fortunately, they're the same guy I've never seen someone get credit for instant, NBA level passing after essentially years of high level scrimmage play. That's just incredible to me how everyone is eating it up.

I'd be okay with Obi over Ball tbh.

Gotcha sounds like your plan is solid. Trade Bridges for an NBA player and then draft anyone but Ball. Crazy how more people aren’t seeing eye to eye on your views when laid out so eloquently.

[DY_nasty]

Nobody is saying a Harden trade is likely. I’m talking more in terms of this draft. Who you taking? Who you trading Bridges for? Are you moving to 1?

I'll trade Bridges for a quality, cheap league average or net zero starter - like I said. Bridges is like a negative 10 last I checked... And if us trading back includes Bridges? I wouldn't lose sleep over it because there's plenty of guys younger than him that could probably do the same thing on a clean slate with the 30 minutes a game he gets.

And I'll take pretty much any of the top guys in this draft outside of the kid who gets called an elite playmaker despite not having a single showing against a high level defender or defense despite traveling the world. Or the kid who says he doesn't need to fix his obviously busted jumper. Fortunately, they're the same guy I've never seen someone get credit for instant, NBA level passing after essentially years of high level scrimmage play. That's just incredible to me how everyone is eating it up.

I'd be okay with Obi over Ball tbh.

Gotcha sounds like your plan is solid. Trade Bridges for an NBA player and then draft anyone but Ball. Crazy how more people aren’t seeing eye to eye on your views when laid out so eloquently.

How is trading away a -10 net rating guy for someone even average and not taking a chance on the australian sideshow bad?

its just you lol

[BigSlam]

Funsters - lets keep it civil and respect each other’s differences of opinions.

We don’t have to agree with each other, but we do have to keep it productive and impersonal.


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[driveandkick]

Regarding Bridges I actually do think if there were a time to trade him it's right now. He's fun and a fine player, but the decision to extend him or not is coming up around the corner. I have seen nothing so far that makes me believe we should extend him, it could be another situation similar to Cody's. A player you extend and plays well and plays hard for you, but ultimately you're counting down to get out of that deal and look at it as a bad decision in the long haul. He also shares minutes with PJ.

If a playoff team gives you a future first for him, you take it imo.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Tier 1: None

Tier 2: Ball, Wiseman, Edwards

Tier 3: Okongwu, Okoro, Avdija, Haliburton, Toppin, Williams, Hayes, Vassell

Listened to Chad Ford's big board podcast and he concurred with Vecenie on the top 11. Somewhat different order, but "there's a clear tier divide between Okoro at 11 and RJ Hampton at 12."

He also stressed these weren't *his* rankings, but based on info he'd gleaned from agents, execs, scouts, etc. (I'm sure there's some truth to this, but the man talked about 60 players, are we to believe all his friends are sending him these thorough lists with that many prospects? Anyway...)

The top three is unchanged from Vecenie's, but perhaps most interesting is that he's got Haliburton at 4. Again, supposedly it's more based on sources than his opinion. "Haliburton has a higher floor than any of the top 3, but a lower ceiling holds him back a bit."

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[JMAC3]

Regarding Bridges I actually do think if there were a time to trade him it's right now. He's fun and a fine player, but the decision to extend him or not is coming up around the corner. I have seen nothing so far that makes me believe we should extend him, it could be another situation similar to Cody's. A player you extend and plays well and plays hard for you, but ultimately you're counting down to get out of that deal and look at it as a bad decision in the long haul. He also shares minutes with PJ.

If a playoff team gives you a future first for him, you take it imo.

Why are we so quick to give up on a young player at the most valuable position in today’s game. He is playing 30 minutes a game on nearly every team in the league and you want to just give up on for a late first lol...

[BigSlam]

Guys: You’ve got Bridges posts all over the place!! Let’s keep the Bridges posts in his thread and save this one as the draft prospects thread.

I know it’s the NBA silly season, but it feels like everyone’s going a little bonkers!!

I can’t wait until we do something radical on draft night and that becomes the focus of everyone’s singular attention!!!


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[LofJ]

With the 3rd pick of the 2020 NBA draft the Charlotte Hornets select...RJ Hampton.

[JMAC3]

I just struggle when fans of a sport have a 5% success rate. If you don’t think you can build a team around James Harden then I don’t know what to tell you.

If you think a player is a failure after two years because they aren’t a finished product then I don’t get it. Especially if they aren’t a top 10 pick.

I like SGA and think he is a solid player, but he has a .0001% of being as good as Harden. Probably won’t ever win an mvp, probably will be paid a Max deal so he will cost the same as Harden at some point.If you aren’t happy with Harden how do you expect to be happy with SGA at any point in his career.

[BigSlam]

With the 3rd pick of the 2020 NBA draft the Charlotte Hornets select...RJ Hampton.

Or something like trading:

#3 + Monk + (x2) future 1st round picks
For
#1

and at #1 we select Patrick Williams who mimics a lot of what we already have on the roster with Bridges and Washington?!?!?


I think Wednesday night is going to be a gong show for so many teams and I personally can’t wait!!

I’m also really interested to see what we do with #32 with Mitch saying he’s targeting a 3rd or 4th year college player.


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[SWedd523]

With the 3rd pick of the 2020 NBA draft the Charlotte Hornets select...RJ Hampton.

When he was in high school he was my top pick going into this draft

Then he disappeared

Then I didn't even realize he was in the draft

That's how much I pay attention these days

[_tijo_]

I just can't with this board sometimes.

James Harden is an amazing player. There's no way he would come here, but if he did and tried, he would actually be a player to build a team around. But he turned Charlotte down once, he will do it again. He wants to play with Kyrie and KD for some reason because he thinks Westbrook is a ball hog, and those two are going to be better. Sure they are James.

And why does everyone want to trade Miles Bridges? Firstly, you ain't getting a future first for him. Right now, no one is trading future firsts for anyone but a proven superstar. Secondly, he's young and growing and getting better. He was the freakin rising stars game MVP just last year.

I'm glad Mitch is our GM and not the people on this freakin board.

[Liver_Pooty]

I just can't with this board sometimes.

James Harden is an amazing player. There's no way he would come here, but if he did and tried, he would actually be a player to build a team around. But he turned Charlotte down once, he will do it again. He wants to play with Kyrie and KD for some reason because he thinks Westbrook is a ball hog, and those two are going to be better. Sure they are James.

And why does everyone want to trade Miles Bridges? Firstly, you ain't getting a future first for him. Right now, no one is trading future firsts for anyone but a proven superstar. Secondly, he's young and growing and getting better. He was the freakin rising stars game MVP just last year.

I'm glad Mitch is our GM and not the people on this freakin board.

I cannot echo this enough

[cornchip]

I hope the rumors about the Wolves picking Edwards #1 are true, I think that would be an ideal position for us. At that point we either get Wiseman or a decent package for Ball.

I don't know...I just have a gut feeling that Edwards is going to be a star.

Problem is both with Minny and and to an extent GS, he's going to play with guys who need the ball. Here, he can have pretty much free reign.

I wouldn't be opposed to moving up to #1 to draft him.

[driveandkick]

Anyone else feel like NOP become sneaky candidates to move up? I wonder if GSW would take Hayes + 13 + future first for the #2 pick?

[Liver_Pooty]

Anyone else feel like NOP become sneaky candidates to move up? I wonder if GSW would take Hayes + 13 + future first for the #2 pick?

They have so many damn assets its unbelievable.

[316Hornets]

Odds of Warriors keeping their pick going down with the Bucks moves.

If they want to have a chance against the Bucks or Lakers, they'll have to get some proven players.