Bucks acquire Jrue Holiday - Trade done - Bucks 2022 to CLE unprotected

Coach Carter · Post #281 » by **Coach Carter** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:53 am

I guess horst felt he'd just waste those picks anyway on dj wilson type players

JackSIKMA43 · Post #282 » by **JackSIKMA43** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:53 am

Wow. That's news. If it keeps Giannis here forever, I'm all for it. That's about all I got.

LikeABosh · Post #283 » by **LikeABosh** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:53 am

El Pooch Grande wrote:
oldshoolballer wrote:Bad trade for the Bucks Holiday is good not great disappears in big games. Hill was a very good bench player and 3 1st round picks is just stupid.

You might want to ask Dame Lillard about this opinion

Yeah, Holiday/AD/Rondo embarrassed the Blazers who had HCA. He had an amazing series for whatever that's worth

LittleRooster · Post #284 » by **LittleRooster** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:55 am

mcfromage wrote:

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I’d be sad to lose Donte

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raferfenix · Post #285 » by **raferfenix** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:55 am

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Turk Nowitzki · Post #286 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:56 am

mcfromage wrote:

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This is a bit confusing to me, I guess the main implication is that getting Bogdan here would require some behind the scenes help from the Kings to facilitate this similar to what we did for Brogdon? How confident are we that they will help us out here?

Baddy Chuck · Post #287 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:57 am

Bledsoe sucked ass in the playoffs but he was a good player and I think whatever team he ends up on will like him. In a perfect world the difference between him and Jrue surely isn't 3 firsts and pick swaps but I do think Jrue brings a few things that make the game much easier for us to work around a possibly not ideal fit at point guard next to Giannis that Bledsoe didn't.

Coach Carter · Post #288 » by **Coach Carter** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:57 am

Horst be like "I'm not losing giannis on my watch"

LuessiT · Post #289 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:59 am

M-C-G wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Like, there's no way that any other team was coming close to this kind of offer for Jrue. Unless I'm missing some rumors from the other teams that were linked to him, this is a classic "bid against yourself" move.

But yes, if this is the move that means Giannis signs on the dotted line, then sure, it's the right choice. That doesn't change that we basically gave up the Paul George/Anthony Davis trade package for like, the 31st best player in the league.

Didn’t Covington go for two first? Maybe the market is just inflated this year.

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I just want to hop in here as these draft assets are actually very similar in overall value imo. Portland sent out #16 in this years draft plus what will most likely be a late teens to early twenties pick in next years loaded draft. Assuming we've got the Giannis supermax in the bag, we're sending out #24 plus two very late picks far out. The pick swaps in this trade are pretty meaningless. When all is said and done I wouldn't be surprised if Portland ended up giving up more draft capital than we did.

Ron Swanson · Post #290 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:59 am

Just feels like we mortgaged the next half decade of draft capital for a guy who's a marginal upgrade over Bledsoe and who doesn't even address our biggest needs on offense. Also not feeling too comfortable having to judge personnel moves based on what "Giannis wants". It's either a good move that helps us win a championship, or it's a bad move.

All that said, It's done, and I'm off to watch Jrue Holiday highlight videos and get myself hyped up.

Plossum · Post #291 » by **Plossum** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:59 am

raferfenix wrote:

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This has to be the subtext of the deal. Otherwise it’s an awful overpay. I like Jrue but not this much. But if it comes with a supermax from GA, it’s all good.

ReddoverKobe · Post #292 » by **ReddoverKobe** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:00 am

We need 8 guys when it matters. If they get rid of DiVincenzo, Ilyasova & Wilson for Bogdan we are at 5. I guess you sign some cheap guys and hope to pick someone up at the deadline. Make it happen. tired of the pretend depth we had the last two years.

RiotPunch · Post #293 » by **RiotPunch** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:01 am

Didn't want to admit it, but always figured Bogdan would cost Donte.

VooDoo7 · Post #294 » by **VooDoo7** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:01 am

What if Giannis is really an evil mofo and did the hand-shake with Horst, all while planning on eventually signing with New Orleans. :lol:

Sorry, not funny.

LuessiT · Post #295 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:02 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
mcfromage wrote:

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This is a bit confusing to me, I guess the main implication is that getting Bogdan here would require some behind the scenes help from the Kings to facilitate this similar to what we did for Brogdon? How confident are we that they will help us out here?

Yes, they would need to help us out, but not in the same way we did for Brogdon. Indiana could have signed Brogdon outright and dared us to match but they chose not to. We can't sign him on our own and need the cooperation from the Kings. And while Bogdan probably prefers to play in Milwaukee over Atlanta or Sacramento, he'll leverage the **** out of all 3 sides to get the most $ while landing where he wants to land.

mke_design · Post #296 » by **mke_design** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:02 am

ReddoverKobe wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:

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If there was ever a trade that is tough to quantify in stats like this, it's this one.

Has that guy ever watched a bucks playoff game?

No he’s a Utah asshat who happens to own a nice podcast company

trwi7 · Post #297 » by **trwi7** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:02 am

We're all debating little details while Horst is playing 3D chess.

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Plossum · Post #298 » by **Plossum** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:02 am

Am I the only one to be a bit sad at losing Hill? He has been one of our best players and was so good in that sixth man role. He wasn’t himself in the bubble but was really good the RS before Covid. Not sure how we plug that gap.

VooDoo7 · Post #299 » by **VooDoo7** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:03 am

If it meant giving up our next ten 1st round picks to keep Giannis, you still do it.

Coach Carter · Post #300 » by **Coach Carter** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:04 am

NO MORE BLEDSOE!!! 8-)