Bucks land Bogdan [Woj]

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Who won the trade?

Mil
18
30%
Sac
2
3%
Bogdan
4
7%
Mil and Bogdan
22
37%
Sac and Bogdan
0
No votes
Mil and Sac
1
2%
All 3
12
20%
No one
1
2%
 
Total votes: 60

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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#41 » by _qubik » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:45 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Kings fans will very much like Donte and the Fox/Donte backcourt will be really fun. People will question the value but I think actual Gm's understood that Donte was a pretty damn good chip.


Its addition by subtraction, if they want too keep Hield, he has more playing time and can be a full time starter, they dont need to care about matching freakish offers and still got Donte, I liked a lot to watch him last season, he plays with a lot of effort
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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#42 » by Prez » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:46 am

ThunderBolt wrote:In totality, bucks did well tonight. This helps offset the jrue price.

I mean how bad is the Jrue price if it's one of the main driving forces in Giannis signing the supermax?
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Post#43 » by BoogieTime » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:46 am

It’s a solid move, we should be bottoming out

I’ve been a Buddy believer, and think he can get back to 20/5/3 on excellent splits without the SG competition, if we aren’t moving him
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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#44 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:47 am

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ThunderBolt wrote:In totality, bucks did well tonight. This helps offset the jrue price.

I mean how bad is the Jrue price if it's one of the main driving forces in Giannis signing the supermax?

It’s not bad at all. I don’t think jrue is enough to do that. Jrue and Bogdan together? Now we’re talking. I hope it works. I’m rooting for him to stay.
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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#45 » by SNPA » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:01 am

I like DDV. But, this first move in isolation is a loss for McNair. All those picks for Jrue and not a single one for Bogi?

And I don’t want to hear about S&T’s aren’t fair value...ok then sign Bogi and trade him for fair value at the deadline. It’s not complicated. Such a dumb argument.

We’ll see what McNair does next and how this fits in but straight up value wise he lost this deal, to a team that hours earlier overpaid on another deal.
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Post#46 » by nolang1 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:02 am

_qubik wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Kings fans will very much like Donte and the Fox/Donte backcourt will be really fun. People will question the value but I think actual Gm's understood that Donte was a pretty damn good chip.


Its addition by subtraction, if they want too keep Hield, he has more playing time and can be a full time starter, they dont need to care about matching freakish offers and still got Donte, I liked a lot to watch him last season, he plays with a lot of effort


In a vacuum he's a better piece to have than Bogdan; the Bucks are just in win-now mode and need shooting more than anything else.
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Post#47 » by HartfordWhalers » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:02 am

I have this as great value for Bogdan, and an astute move by the Kings GM.
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Post#48 » by MotownMadness » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:08 am

Man I gotta work tomorrow and deals keep happening
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Post#49 » by MotownMadness » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:09 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:I have this as great value for Bogdan, and an astute move by the Kings GM.

Me too, getting back DiVincenzo is really solid
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Post#50 » by vxmike » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:12 am

Awful for Sac. Can’t believe that’s the best they could do for Bogdan
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Post#51 » by Pelon chingon » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:15 am

SNPA wrote:I like DDV. But, this first move in isolation is a loss for McNair. All those picks for Jrue and not a single one for Bogi?

And I don’t want to hear about S&T’s aren’t fair value...ok then sign Bogi and trade him for fair value at the deadline. It’s not complicated. Such a dumb argument.

We’ll see what McNair does next and how this fits in but straight up value wise he lost this deal, to a team that hours earlier overpaid on another deal.

But DD is a solid player and Bogi was ALWAYS playing euro ball every damn summer leaving him gassed and injured to start the season.
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Post#52 » by SNPA » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:17 am

Pelon chingon wrote:
SNPA wrote:I like DDV. But, this first move in isolation is a loss for McNair. All those picks for Jrue and not a single one for Bogi?

And I don’t want to hear about S&T’s aren’t fair value...ok then sign Bogi and trade him for fair value at the deadline. It’s not complicated. Such a dumb argument.

We’ll see what McNair does next and how this fits in but straight up value wise he lost this deal, to a team that hours earlier overpaid on another deal.

But DD is a solid player and Bogi was ALWAYS playing euro ball every damn summer leaving him gassed and injured to start the season.

This move is a loss on value. Maybe it makes some sense in a grander plan he has that we will see unfold but in isolation the Bucks win this deal.
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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#53 » by HartfordWhalers » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:20 am

SNPA wrote:
Pelon chingon wrote:
SNPA wrote:I like DDV. But, this first move in isolation is a loss for McNair. All those picks for Jrue and not a single one for Bogi?

And I don’t want to hear about S&T’s aren’t fair value...ok then sign Bogi and trade him for fair value at the deadline. It’s not complicated. Such a dumb argument.

We’ll see what McNair does next and how this fits in but straight up value wise he lost this deal, to a team that hours earlier overpaid on another deal.

But DD is a solid player and Bogi was ALWAYS playing euro ball every damn summer leaving him gassed and injured to start the season.

This move is a loss on value. Maybe it makes some sense in a grander plan he has that we will see unfold but in isolation the Bucks win this deal.


Would you have done Bogdan for a 1st rounder at 24 this year? 20? What is the value you are putting on him, versus DD?
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Post#54 » by SNPA » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:24 am

HartfordWhalers wrote:
SNPA wrote:
Pelon chingon wrote:But DD is a solid player and Bogi was ALWAYS playing euro ball every damn summer leaving him gassed and injured to start the season.

This move is a loss on value. Maybe it makes some sense in a grander plan he has that we will see unfold but in isolation the Bucks win this deal.


Would you have done Bogdan for a 1st rounder at 24 this year? 20? What is the value you are putting on him, versus DD?

Bucks just trade 3 FRP’s and 2 swaps for Jrue. I would have demand one of those picks. Could have slid an average 2nd to Mil if needed to balance out.

Bogi is a stud. He makes them significantly better, especially in clutch moments. Kings lost on value. And again, I like DDV.
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Post#55 » by Pelon chingon » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:24 am

I hope this move signals a change in philosophy making defense a priority. All the defensive numbers love DD.
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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#56 » by HartfordWhalers » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:27 am

SNPA wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
SNPA wrote:This move is a loss on value. Maybe it makes some sense in a grander plan he has that we will see unfold but in isolation the Bucks win this deal.


Would you have done Bogdan for a 1st rounder at 24 this year? 20? What is the value you are putting on him, versus DD?

Bucks just trade 3 FRP’s and 2 swaps for Jrue. I would have demand one of those picks. Could have slid an average 2nd to Mil if needed to balance out.

Bogi is a stud. He makes them significantly better, especially in clutch moments. Kings lost on value. And again, I like DDV.


I'm not hearing the answer to my question. As a single pick in this years draft, what do you have Bogdan as worth?
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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#57 » by SNPA » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:30 am

Not a fan of the pick value without context. Trades are made in context.

Bucks need Bogi (to get Giannis to sign) more than the King’s need to not match an offer (and trade him later).
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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#58 » by City of Trees » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:36 am

SNPA wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
SNPA wrote:This move is a loss on value. Maybe it makes some sense in a grander plan he has that we will see unfold but in isolation the Bucks win this deal.


Would you have done Bogdan for a 1st rounder at 24 this year? 20? What is the value you are putting on him, versus DD?

Bucks just trade 3 FRP’s and 2 swaps for Jrue. I would have demand one of those picks. Could have slid an average 2nd to Mil if needed to balance out.

Bogi is a stud. He makes them significantly better, especially in clutch moments. Kings lost on value. And again, I like DDV.
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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#59 » by Cappy_Smurf » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:43 am

SNPA wrote:
And I don’t want to hear about S&T’s aren’t fair value...ok then sign Bogi and trade him for fair value at the deadline. It’s not complicated. Such a dumb argument.


Which kind of gun would be best to point at him when forcing him to sign with your team, 9mm or .357 mag?
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Re: Bucks land Bogdan [Woj] 

Post#60 » by HartfordWhalers » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:44 am

SNPA wrote:Not a fan of the pick value without context. Trades are made in context.

Bucks need Bogi (to get Giannis to sign) more than the King’s need to not match an offer (and trade him later).


Well, if the whole idea that you lost value is based off an idea of leverage that you concocted, versus actual value, then there is an another alternative. The world just didn't go along with your leverage idea.

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