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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#721 » by Negrodamus » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:10 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:I could see us try to make a Wiggins trade happen. Al Horford, JRich, Shake, 21st pick, 2021 first rounder for Wiggins and Looney.

I'm against doing that, but it makes sense for both teams if you like Wiggins: Horford and JRich round out the starting five while giving them cheap talent for the bench in Shake and the 21st pick. We get a third "star" in a similar age range as Embiid and Simmons.

I think Morey has more sense than to do that, but I'm also having a hard time believing we're just going to run back the same team.


I'm down with the concept, but absolutely not all this for Wiggins. If this is the best deal we can get we have no reason to not just run it back.


It makes too much sense to not be considered. Wiggins and Embiid are friends. Can't really imagine GSW wanting to keep him. He's still young and is a scorer (albeit inefficient).

I think you are right in that Morey likely wouldn't give up all of that, but I'm operating based off the Jrue trade and he's old as ****. I could see him being taken on as a reclamation project that just needs the right location to flourish.
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Post#722 » by nitocobola » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:19 pm

tobias and wiggins on the same team, yikes
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Post#723 » by youngcrev » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:26 pm

I've got Wiggins as a worse contract than Horford and Harris.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#724 » by Arsenal » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:27 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:I could see us try to make a Wiggins trade happen. Al Horford, JRich, Shake, 21st pick, 2021 first rounder for Wiggins and Looney.

I'm against doing that, but it makes sense for both teams if you like Wiggins: Horford and JRich round out the starting five while giving them cheap talent for the bench in Shake and the 21st pick. We get a third "star" in a similar age range as Embiid and Simmons.

I think Morey has more sense than to do that, but I'm also having a hard time believing we're just going to run back the same team.


I'm down with the concept, but absolutely not all this for Wiggins. If this is the best deal we can get we have no reason to not just run it back.


It makes too much sense to not be considered. Wiggins and Embiid are friends. Can't really imagine GSW wanting to keep him. He's still young and is a scorer (albeit inefficient).

I think you are right in that Morey likely wouldn't give up all of that, but I'm operating based off the Jrue trade and he's old as ****. I could see him being taken on as a reclamation project that just needs the right location to flourish.


Yeah, like I'll consider Wiggins, but no way I'm going to overpay for Wiggins like these other overpays that are going down.

Maybe would do Al for Wiggins straight up. Throwing in picks, Shake, JRich? Absolutely not.
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Post#725 » by ankle420breaker » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:37 pm

Bucks going all in. They must have a re-sign commitment from Holiday to part with that many picks/swaps.

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Post#726 » by Wilfried » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:38 pm

youngcrev wrote:I've got Wiggins as a worse contract than Horford and Harris.


Add Wall, Westbrook, Griffin, Love, maybe even Kemba, to the list.

Some of them are because of injuries off course
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#727 » by cool93 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:39 pm

Why are we giving up two firsts, JRich and Shake to take on Wiggins? His contract is not better that Horfords. WTF?
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Post#728 » by Negrodamus » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:41 pm

cool93 wrote:Why are we giving up two firsts, JRich and Shake to take on Wiggins? His contract is not better that Horfords. WTF?


Because Daryl Morey is just a puppet and Vin Fosh is the puppet master. Fosh likes Wiggins a lot.
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Post#729 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:52 pm

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cool93 wrote:Why are we giving up two firsts, JRich and Shake to take on Wiggins? His contract is not better that Horfords. WTF?


Because Daryl Morey is just a puppet and Vin Fosh is the puppet master. Fosh likes Wiggins a lot.

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Post#730 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:58 pm

I would do Horford/Richardson for Wiggins/Looney straight up.
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Post#731 » by Arsenal » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:59 pm

If you guys are done speculating and making up deals, I'd like to go back to the hard news reported by the Vinsider.

I'm good on a Horford for Love straight swap. Love is a better fit on offense because he can stretch the floor with volume distance shooting. He can also play center when Embiid sits. He's 2 years younger than Al, and has that ever elusive championship pedigree. He'll look much better with a good team than with CLE.

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#732 » by 51X3RF4N » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:59 pm

What about Harris for Wiggins?

Gets us out of Harris contract, and slides Ben to the PF spot, freeing up the idea of Horford for a PG.

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#733 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:02 pm

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At this point, its very likely Ben for Harden will go down. Like almost impossible for me.
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Post#734 » by Arsenal » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:03 pm

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At this point, its very likely Ben for Harden will go down. Like almost impossible for me.


Who are they gonna trade for Buddy? Gary Harris?
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Post#735 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:03 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:What about Harris for Wiggins?

Gets us out of Harris contract, and slides Ben to the PF spot, freeing up the idea of Horford for a PG.

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Ben and Biid aren’t a good fit.
And it will be worse with Wiggins.

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Post#736 » by the_process » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:04 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I could see us try to make a Wiggins trade happen. Al Horford, JRich, Shake, 21st pick, 2021 first rounder for Wiggins and Looney.

I'm against doing that, but it makes sense for both teams if you like Wiggins: Horford and JRich round out the starting five while giving them cheap talent for the bench in Shake and the 21st pick. We get a third "star" in a similar age range as Embiid and Simmons.

I think Morey has more sense than to do that, but I'm also having a hard time believing we're just going to run back the same team.


I'm down with the concept, but absolutely not all this for Wiggins. If this is the best deal we can get we have no reason to not just run it back.


It makes too much sense to not be considered. Wiggins and Embiid are friends. Can't really imagine GSW wanting to keep him. He's still young and is a scorer (albeit inefficient).

I think you are right in that Morey likely wouldn't give up all of that, but I'm operating based off the Jrue trade and he's old as ****. I could see him being taken on as a reclamation project that just needs the right location to flourish.


If GSW really wanted to throw in and try to grab one more title, costs be damned? Then Horford and JRich for Wiggins and that MIN 2021 1st they have could work. Follow it up by using 21 and that Minny pick to get something less cap crippling and hopefully more useful than Tobias Harris.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#737 » by DT RAW » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:04 pm

Im rdy to accept this team instead of starting 2 centers and 2 pfs like last year is likely gona be 1 center and 3 pfs and us fans supposed to pretend that is way better

This simmona jrich harris love embiid team is ateociously bad. Zero creators STILL and a bunch of stiffs on the perimeter

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#738 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:05 pm

Arsenal wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Read on Twitter


At this point, its very likely Ben for Harden will go down. Like almost impossible for me.


Who are they gonna trade for Buddy? Gary Harris?


I doubt it. Garry Harris has no veteranosity in him.

Maybe Milsap.
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Post#739 » by kingerzz » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:06 pm

I'm intrigued by a trade for Redick and Hill with NO. I'm thinking those two for Richardson, Z.Smith, Scott & perhaps one of the seconds, perhaps 21 if you need to get the deal done, thoughts?
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#740 » by GutUNC » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:07 pm

Arsenal wrote:If you guys are done speculating and making up deals, I'd like to go back to the hard news reported by the Vinsider.

I'm good on a Horford for Love straight swap. Love is a better fit on offense because he can stretch the floor with volume distance shooting. He can also play center when Embiid sits. He's 2 years younger than Al, and has that ever elusive championship pedigree. He'll look much better with a good team than with CLE.

Starters:
PG JRich
SG Ben
SF Tobi
PF Love
CE Embiid


I'd value the 2 calendar years less then the guy who hasn't played more then 60 games in 4 seasons.
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