Official Miami Heat Off-Season GT - Saving you from IggieCC

[dean456]

Gallinari is not a great idea. This is pretty depressing.

If Covington is available, he is a much better option.

Covington was traded to Portland.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

If Houston has any intention of moving Harden, they are going to move Westbrook. Apparently no one is willing to give up much to get Westbrook, which makes Miami a realistic option for his services. If Hayward opts out, you'd have to imagine Miami would go after him (and I believe Hayward almost signed with Miami when he was a FA). Gallinari has been a target since the trade deadline.

Am I crazy thinking there is a way Miami can get all 3?

1. Miami renounces every FA except DJJ, so Miami has a bit over $30M in space.

2. Miami signs Hayward (deal starts at ~$20M)

3. Miami gets Gallinari (2-years, ~$25M) and #28
OKC gets: Okpala, #20 and the 2023 pick unprotected

4. Miami gets Westbrook and PJ Tucker
Houston gets: Iguodala, Olynyk, DJJ, #28, future pick


Westbrook - Nunn
Butler - Robinson
Hayward - Herro
Gallinari - Tucker- Haslem
Bam - Silva

Is Bam's extension included in this? If it is I wouldn't mind this scenario

[heater4life]

One reality no one has considered. In order to sign Giannis the Heat lose or have to renounce the rights of:

Iggy, KO, Dragic, Crowder, and or the hypothetical additions of Gallinari and a MLE addition. Plus deal with the restricted free agency’s of Bam, Duncan, and Nunn, which can become complicated given the obscene amounts of money teams will have.

If they trade for a star now, while they lose youth, they can keep players such as Dragic, Crowder, a MLE addition and Gallo “potentially” in addition to an added star.

Option 2 looks more appealing to me. Where’s Harden?!?

[greg4012]

Option 2 looks more appealing to me. Where’s Harden?!?

At the strip club alienating his team and organization

[Bishop45]

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Option 2 looks more appealing to me. Where’s Harden?!?

At the strip club alienating his team and organization

Jimmy did the same thing, and we applauded him for it

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[dean456]

Let me clarify the purpose of the S&T for Gallinari option. OKC will agree to sign and trade Gallinari in return the Heat will unprotect the 2023 draft pick OKC owns from the Heat. That would be the bases of the move, not sure other moving parts will be involved. By doing so this allows the 2025 first round pick to be used in a future trade. Currently 2023 lottery protection blocks the 2025 first round pick from being used in a trade. So again this "Unlocks" a draft pick to be used in a trade now.

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I can not imagine Heat making these moves without a concrete agreement with someone.

Player development era is over.... Veterans are being added.

Here is an overview of the Miami Heat’s pick scenario for the next seven drafts:

2020: One first round pick; no second round picks
2021: No first round picks; no second round picks. Currently owned by Pheonix no protection
2022: One first round pick; one second round pick
2023: No first round picks; no second round picks. Lottery Protected Owned by OKC
2024: One first round pick; one second round pick (31-50 only)
2025: One first round pick; no second round picks
2026: One first round pick; no second round picks

All these picks are locked from being traded except for 2026. Miami may be able to unlock two of these picks to be used in a trade with shrewed smart draft day moves and S&T moves.

This is confusing. How would we be able to trade two more picks if protections are lifted? If we cant trade consecutive picks and we currently only own in full our 2020, 2022, 2026 which means we can only trade our 2020 on draft night and our 2026 pick right now.

For Miami to unlock multiple picks they would have to organise with OKC to change our pick from a protected 2023 pick which it currently is to an unprotected 2024 pick. That way we would then be able to trade our 2020 pick, our 2023 pick and our 2026 pick.

If we only unprotect the 2023 pick all it does is allow us to trade our 2020 and one of either of our 2025 or 2026 picks but not all three.

Is that right?

[Rapaz]

Danilo Belinelli? That's the big offseason move?

[RexBoyWonder]

Man some of these names are depressing me.

Westbrook? Really? Next to Jimmy and Bam?
Kevin love?!

2 players worth losing real assets for : Beal and Harden
2 players worth spending big for 1 year : Wood and Gallinari

Remember that having a guy like Westbrook kills any chance we ever have enough space for a legit max players in the next 3 years. That's crazy. We're not the Hornets, we could land free agents or trade for one if we don't handicap ourselves.

[RexBoyWonder]

Danilo Belinelli? That's the big offseason move?

He's the best fit, cost us very little (hopefully) and keeps us with the most flexibility for next year (if we do it right).

Personally i would rather go for Christian Wood but he's unproven and would probably want more then 1 year guaranteed.

[AirP.]

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I can not imagine Heat making these moves without a concrete agreement with someone.

Player development era is over.... Veterans are being added.

Here is an overview of the Miami Heat’s pick scenario for the next seven drafts:

2020: One first round pick; no second round picks
2021: No first round picks; no second round picks. Currently owned by Pheonix no protection
2022: One first round pick; one second round pick
2023: No first round picks; no second round picks. Lottery Protected Owned by OKC
2024: One first round pick; one second round pick (31-50 only)
2025: One first round pick; no second round picks
2026: One first round pick; no second round picks

All these picks are locked from being traded except for 2026. Miami may be able to unlock two of these picks to be used in a trade with shrewed smart draft day moves and S&T moves.

This is confusing. How would we be able to trade two more picks if protections are lifted? If we cant trade consecutive picks and we currently only own in full our 2020, 2022, 2026 which means we can only trade our 2020 on draft night and our 2026 pick right now.

For Miami to unlock multiple picks they would have to organise with OKC to change our pick from a protected 2023 pick which it currently is to an unprotected 2024 pick. That way we would then be able to trade our 2020 pick, our 2023 pick and our 2026 pick.

If we only unprotect the 2023 pick all it does is allow us to trade our 2020 and one of either of our 2025 or 2026 picks but not all three.

Is that right?

The Clippers ended up absorbing Harkless into available cap space and picked up a future first-round pick from the Heat. According to a league source, Miami’s 2023 first-round pick dealt to Los Angeles is lottery protected in 2023, lottery protected in 2024 if it doesn’t convey in 2023, lottery protected in 2025 if it doesn’t convey in 2024, and unprotected in 2026 if it’s not already conveyed to the Clippers by then.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article232166632.html

At this point Miami doesn't know what pick they'll have available, they could lose their 1st round pick anywhere between 2023-2026, so they can't trade any of those picks. Yes it would be helpful to remove that protection now but Miami is looking to get value out of taking off that protection.

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[Shootit]

Gallinari on a short term deal would be good IMO.

Upgrade this year with a chance at a whale in 2021 or 22 or whenever next season ends

[heater4life]

Danilo Belinelli? That's the big offseason move?

Like if he isn’t a massive upgrade over KO.

[Bishop45]

Don't know why ppl still covet Westbrook, I assumed Jordan only wanted him on Hornets so he could sell some more shoes

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[SA37]

If Houston has any intention of moving Harden, they are going to move Westbrook. Apparently no one is willing to give up much to get Westbrook, which makes Miami a realistic option for his services. If Hayward opts out, you'd have to imagine Miami would go after him (and I believe Hayward almost signed with Miami when he was a FA). Gallinari has been a target since the trade deadline.

Am I crazy thinking there is a way Miami can get all 3?

1. Miami renounces every FA except DJJ, so Miami has a bit over $30M in space.

2. Miami signs Hayward (deal starts at ~$20M)

3. Miami gets Gallinari (2-years, ~$25M) and #28
OKC gets: Okpala, #20 and the 2023 pick unprotected

4. Miami gets Westbrook and PJ Tucker
Houston gets: Iguodala, Olynyk, DJJ, #28, future pick


Westbrook - Nunn
Butler - Robinson
Hayward - Herro
Gallinari - Tucker- Haslem
Bam - Silva

Is Bam's extension included in this? If it is I wouldn't mind this scenario

I assume the extension could be signed this year (after these moves) since Miami wouldn't be shooting for 2021 anymore, but perhaps for luxury tax purposes, they'd still ask Bam to wait until next summer. I do not follow the NBA as closely as I used to, so I don't have an up-to-date knowledge of the CBA, so I don't know how possible the above is.

Another option is to not go after Westbrook and instead to go after Beal, but any trade for Beal would likely have to include Herro and would cost Miami more assets, I'd think. (I don't really think Washington wants to move Beal, though.) I don't love Westbrook's style, but if Miami can get a guy who still has 2 good/elite years left for cap relief and any young asset(s) except for Herro, Miami really can't pass.

A final option, if Gallinari and Hayward didn't pan out, would be to try to get Bertans and Beal for Olynyk, Iguodala, DJJ, Herro, and #20 or something like that.

[TheCDiggity]

I'd prefer Heild at this point over Gordon but I like the out of the box thinking. We could do alot worse.

Gordon covers more positions, handles the ball and also plays power forward. The best part is that we don't have to hand over any assets.

My thing is I think we need an Elite Scorer. This year Heild wasnt used correctly by walton so his numbers dropped but the year before as a starter he had 1.06 PPP which is around the same mark as Harden. Overall he doesn't impact the game like harden but if his role was to get buckets while Bam and Jimmy handle the facilitating I believe the results would be good.

I personally think hield could be a khris Middleton in our system

[greg4012]

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Option 2 looks more appealing to me. Where’s Harden?!?

At the strip club alienating his team and organization

Jimmy did the same thing, and we applauded him for it

YOu think they've got the same makeup?

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