2019-2020 College/Draft thread 15 (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT)

Gravy · Post #41 » by **Gravy** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:48 pm

Has there ever been a more disliked top 5? Sounds like yall dont want any of them except for a couple diehard fans of each player.

Clyde_Style · Post #42 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:49 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks trading for Obi

Multiple Sauces Cans Confirm

Knicks cooking

Trading for sauces

YungKnicks · Post #43 » by **YungKnicks** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:49 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Kevin O Connor said that he heard Payton Pritchard got a promise in the late first round. I wonder if it’s us. I’d love to get him. Great combo guard to have off the bench.

He's not a Combo.. he's a point. Im a fan but we could get him at #38

HEZI · Post #44 » by **HEZI** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:52 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:He's not gonna shoot 58% if he plays the 4 next to Mitch though.

If we draft Obi and keep Mitch, Obi will mostly be on the perimeter shooting Js, not finishing at the rim off pick-and-rolls and post-ups.

And not only is the 20/10 not a given (not saying you're guaranteeing it), it doesn't matter at all if it doesn't impact winning because of what happens on the other end of the floor.

Just putting things into perspective.

Says who? Pull Mitch outside and let him show off that jumper if he's got it. If he really can't shoot then maybe we need to reconsider how important he really is to the core in the first place. Maybe Mitch not being able to shoot is more of a problem than a player who can

Mitch just averaged the highest FG% in NBA history by finishing plays around the rim and you want him to move to the perimeter or get traded just to accommodate a prospect who's still an unknown and who has yet to play an NBA game.

If you replace Mitch with Obi at the 5, then you have a defensive liability as your last line of defense and the Knicks D will be a lay-up line. I understand your point about offense, I really do. And it's perfectly reasonable not to believe in Mitch. But let's be consistent, if you're taking Obi over Mitch (which you suggested by questioning Mitch's place on the team), you have to admit that defense doesn't matter that much to you then.

But you said you want to look to win? So are you looking to protect Mitch's FG% or win? Mitch wasting clock and possession looking for a handoff to a guard while his defender drops off him with no respect for his jumper whatsoever was a big problem for us last year. It made it that much easier to defend anything we tried to do. He wasn't even looking at the rim and gave nobody any lane to drive to the basket. That was a problem. He needs a jumper, it's simple and plain. Regardless of who we draft, as long as he can't score outside of 5 feet from the basket it's going to be a problem going forward. Never said put Obi at the 5, I think he can work with a rim protector but there are plenty of rim protectors who can also space the floor, shocking I know but they do exist

3toheadmelo · Post #45 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:52 pm

YungKnicks wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Kevin O Connor said that he heard Payton Pritchard got a promise in the late first round. I wonder if it’s us. I’d love to get him. Great combo guard to have off the bench.

He's not a Combo.. he's a point. Im a fan but we could get him at #38

We can’t get him at 38 if he got a promise in the first round

Traveyknicks23 · Post #46 » by **Traveyknicks23** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:52 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:mitch
obi
hood
rj
FVV

Leggo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously I'm easily impressed

Hell no to fvv

Hell yes. Best Knick PG since Chris Duhon was slaying sorority girls

No love for mike bibby? :lol:

thebuzzardman · Post #47 » by **thebuzzardman** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:54 pm

Traveyknicks23 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:

Hell no to fvv

Hell yes. Best Knick PG since Chris Duhon was slaying sorority girls

No love for mike bibby?

Henry Bibby > Mike Bibby

Traveyknicks23 · Post #48 » by **Traveyknicks23** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:54 pm

Gravy wrote:Has there ever been a more disliked top 5? Sounds like yall dont want any of them except for a couple diehard fans of each player.

I think it comes down to people just wanting to be right about their draft crushes

Guano · Post #49 » by **Guano** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:55 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Guano wrote:
King of Canada wrote:
We do have two firsts

well damn... was worried we traded mitch to move back in the lotto.

first page loaded with Obi talk had me in fits

We should trade Mitch for some more picks.

Obi will be holding down the C spot.

where is clyde with that shovel gif when you need it

Traveyknicks23 · Post #50 » by **Traveyknicks23** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:55 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Hell yes. Best Knick PG since Chris Duhon was slaying sorority girls

No love for mike bibby?

Henry Bibby > Mike Bibby

Tony Douglas >>>>>> all

thebuzzardman · Post #51 » by **thebuzzardman** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:58 pm

Traveyknicks23 wrote:
Gravy wrote:Has there ever been a more disliked top 5? Sounds like yall dont want any of them except for a couple diehard fans of each player.

I think it comes down to people just wanting to be right about their draft crushes

This EASILY explains roughly 1400/1500 pages

Post #52 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:58 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks trading for Obi

Multiple Sauces Cans Confirm

Knicks cooking

Trading for sauces

Knicks will be cooking with a Béarnaise sauce backcourt with Frank and Killian.

Dantares · Post #53 » by **Dantares** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:59 pm

Gravy wrote:Has there ever been a more disliked top 5? Sounds like yall dont want any of them except for a couple diehard fans of each player.

No i dont think so. Woj said some teams executive that are drafting later in the lottery are glad they are not picking at the top.

Lamelo- cant shoot and cant play defense
Edwards- out of shape, questionable iq and work ethic
wiseman- traditional big man in a guards league, stone hands
Toppin- No defense, 22 yr old rookie
Deni- actually havent heard that much bad stuff about him

Traveyknicks23 · Post #54 » by **Traveyknicks23** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:00 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
Gravy wrote:Has there ever been a more disliked top 5? Sounds like yall dont want any of them except for a couple diehard fans of each player.

I think it comes down to people just wanting to be right about their draft crushes

This EASILY explains roughly 1400/1500 pages

If there is an award for the biggest over simplification statement made I feel like I should at least be in the running

Clyde_Style · Post #55 » by **Clyde_Style** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:00 pm

Guano wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Guano wrote:

well damn... was worried we traded mitch to move back in the lotto.

first page loaded with Obi talk had me in fits

We should trade Mitch for some more picks.

Obi will be holding down the C spot.

where is clyde with that shovel gif when you need it

Here you go. Shovels can be lethal so please use judiciously

Spoiler:

stuporman · Post #56 » by **stuporman** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:01 pm

Cool that Walt has seen Hampton play in person so the double RJ wing combo still may have a chance, huh.

Traveyknicks23 · Post #57 » by **Traveyknicks23** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:02 pm

Question Do Any you guys play 2k?

HarthorneWingo · Post #58 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:05 pm

Dantares wrote:
Gravy wrote:Has there ever been a more disliked top 5? Sounds like yall dont want any of them except for a couple diehard fans of each player.

No i dont think so. Woj said some teams executive that are drafting later in the lottery are glad they are not picking at the top.

Lamelo- cant shoot and cant play defense
Edwards- out of shape, questionable iq and work ethic
wiseman- traditional big man in a guards league, stone hands
Toppin- No defense, 22 yr old rookie
Deni- actually havent heard that much bad stuff about him

Deni can’t shoot FTs thus making his 3-point shooting suspect

thebuzzardman · Post #59 » by **thebuzzardman** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:05 pm

Dantares wrote:
Gravy wrote:Has there ever been a more disliked top 5? Sounds like yall dont want any of them except for a couple diehard fans of each player.

No i dont think so. Woj said some teams executive that are drafting later in the lottery are glad they are not picking at the top.

Lamelo- cant shoot and cant play defense
Edwards- out of shape, questionable iq and work ethic
wiseman- traditional big man in a guards league, stone hands
Toppin- No defense, 22 yr old rookie
Deni- actually havent heard that much bad stuff about him

Knicks gonna draft Deni and Yam Madar and market them as "Two Live Jews"

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #60 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:07 pm

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