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Post#481 » by nzahir » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:36 pm

LikeABosh wrote:I'm not that high on Serge. He'd be great to have, but I honestly think Gallo would be better. He's been a legit .400 3 pt shooter the last 2 years and I don't even think Serge is that much better defensively. Raptor fans were complaining he lost a lot of mobility

I will take either gladly, but prefer Gallo as well I think

Would be great to have a stretch big, but we will likely close out with AD at the 5 anyways

My question is, what happens to Kuzma then?

Gallo and Kuzma can be our bench 3/4, but is there enough shots for Kuzma? Or would we be better off moving for a defensive wing like Tucker? Send Kuzma and Mcgee/Cook for PJ?
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Post#482 » by LikeABosh » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:39 pm

nzahir wrote:Or would we be better off moving for a defensive wing like Tucker? Send Kuzma and Mcgee/Cook for PJ?


That would be ideal. I feel like Gallo is what we all want Kuzma to be. No reason to have them both
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Post#483 » by Freighttrain » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:44 pm

Somehow I still hope we go after Bertans, even though I think Washington is probably going to give him a payday. He's the sniper we need for our offensive spacing. I know Danny Green wasn't what we all thought he was going to be, but if you look at the video, defenders were still not leaving him even tough he was ice cold. We need someone to fill that spacing gap.
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Post#484 » by dreamshake » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:09 pm

Freighttrain wrote:Somehow I still hope we go after Bertans, even though I think Washington is probably going to give him a payday. He's the sniper we need for our offensive spacing. I know Danny Green wasn't what we all thought he was going to be, but if you look at the video, defenders were still not leaving him even tough he was ice cold. We need someone to fill that spacing gap.


Schroder can help with spacing if he can repeat what he did last year. He was a better 3pt shooter than any Laker. Same % as KCP on larger volume than Danny Green.
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Post#485 » by Dupp » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:06 am

Yeah gallo over serve for sure
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Post#486 » by xb3at band1tx » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:58 am

I'll take serge over Gallo, but I'm fine with either one.

I don't like Gallo under-performing in the post-season but granted he's only been there 4 times.
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Post#487 » by homecourtloss » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:29 am

yoyoboy wrote:Next year is looking like a bloodbath. LA needs to make a move to make up for losing Green, Rondo, and most likely Bradley with the way other teams are loading up.


Literally the most talented the league has ever been, and it’s not all that close.
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Post#488 » by Greyhound » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:04 am

LikeABosh wrote:I'm not that high on Serge. He'd be great to have, but I honestly think Gallo would be better. He's been a legit .400 3 pt shooter the last 2 years and I don't even think Serge is that much better defensively. Raptor fans were complaining he lost a lot of mobility

Serge’s ability to space the floor from the five spot, rim protect on the interior, and cover a bit on the perimeter (as a starter) is more valuable then anything Gallo can possibly provide off the bench.

The only thing that would make Gallo a better signing/ fit is if he signed for the vet minimum.

I doubt that happens.
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Post#489 » by nzahir » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:15 am

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LikeABosh wrote:I'm not that high on Serge. He'd be great to have, but I honestly think Gallo would be better. He's been a legit .400 3 pt shooter the last 2 years and I don't even think Serge is that much better defensively. Raptor fans were complaining he lost a lot of mobility

Serge’s ability to space the floor from the five spot, rim protect on the interior, and cover a bit on the perimeter (as a starter) is more valuable then anything Gallo can possibly provide off the bench.

The only thing that would make Gallo a better signing/ fit is if he signed for the vet minimum.

I doubt that happens.

Except we generally close games with AD at the 5

I wouldn't be mad with Serge, but I think Gallo makes more sense

Close with 2 of KCP, AC, Dennis, 3&d guard/wing like Wes and then Gallo, Bron, and AD
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Post#490 » by LA Bird » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:28 am

dreamshake wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Somehow I still hope we go after Bertans, even though I think Washington is probably going to give him a payday. He's the sniper we need for our offensive spacing. I know Danny Green wasn't what we all thought he was going to be, but if you look at the video, defenders were still not leaving him even tough he was ice cold. We need someone to fill that spacing gap.


Schroder can help with spacing if he can repeat what he did last year. He was a better 3pt shooter than any Laker. Same % as KCP on larger volume than Danny Green.

Schroder was a career 32.5% 3pt shooter before last season though. It remains to be seen whether he has really improved his shooting or he just had a one season outlier like 2016 Draymond.
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Post#491 » by nzahir » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:20 am

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dreamshake wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Somehow I still hope we go after Bertans, even though I think Washington is probably going to give him a payday. He's the sniper we need for our offensive spacing. I know Danny Green wasn't what we all thought he was going to be, but if you look at the video, defenders were still not leaving him even tough he was ice cold. We need someone to fill that spacing gap.


Schroder can help with spacing if he can repeat what he did last year. He was a better 3pt shooter than any Laker. Same % as KCP on larger volume than Danny Green.

Schroder was a career 32.5% 3pt shooter before last season though. It remains to be seen whether he has really improved his shooting or he just had a one season outlier like 2016 Draymond.

I don't see Schroeder being a 38% 3 point shooter, but I can see 34-36%

He is very good at getting to the basket and a very good mid range shooter

Not as good overall at Rose at getting to the rim, but a better 3 point shooter, much better defender, and much less injury prone

We legit have nobody besides Lebron who can just iso and get to the basket, and Lebron has slowed down in the half court

KCP can attack a bit, but ofc not his specialty

I would like to have Avery back if possible, but if not, KCP is a better overall player now it seems like
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Post#492 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:37 am

dreamshake wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Somehow I still hope we go after Bertans, even though I think Washington is probably going to give him a payday. He's the sniper we need for our offensive spacing. I know Danny Green wasn't what we all thought he was going to be, but if you look at the video, defenders were still not leaving him even tough he was ice cold. We need someone to fill that spacing gap.


Schroder can help with spacing if he can repeat what he did last year. He was a better 3pt shooter than any Laker. Same % as KCP on larger volume than Danny Green.

Danny had larger volume.

7 3PA vs 5.9 per 36

9.2 vs 7.9 per 100 poss
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Post#493 » by Freighttrain » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:04 am

I wonder if there is going to be a firesale when Harden gets traded. I would think Palinka would make some calls to see what it would take to get PJ tucker. He's only at 8mil this coming season and he could for sure help us if Bradley or KCP aren't coming back.
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Post#494 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:32 am

Mos_Heat wrote:
dreamshake wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Somehow I still hope we go after Bertans, even though I think Washington is probably going to give him a payday. He's the sniper we need for our offensive spacing. I know Danny Green wasn't what we all thought he was going to be, but if you look at the video, defenders were still not leaving him even tough he was ice cold. We need someone to fill that spacing gap.


Schroder can help with spacing if he can repeat what he did last year. He was a better 3pt shooter than any Laker. Same % as KCP on larger volume than Danny Green.

Danny had larger volume.

7 3PA vs 5.9 per 36

9.2 vs 7.9 per 100 poss


Im pretty sure green took easier threes though
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Post#495 » by shadedglasses » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:49 am

Freighttrain wrote:I wonder if there is going to be a firesale when Harden gets traded. I would think Palinka would make some calls to see what it would take to get PJ tucker. He's only at 8mil this coming season and he could for sure help us if Bradley or KCP aren't coming back.



PJ'S defense & corner 3 shot is worth a lot nowadays.
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Post#496 » by Greyhound » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:09 pm

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Greyhound wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:I'm not that high on Serge. He'd be great to have, but I honestly think Gallo would be better. He's been a legit .400 3 pt shooter the last 2 years and I don't even think Serge is that much better defensively. Raptor fans were complaining he lost a lot of mobility

Serge’s ability to space the floor from the five spot, rim protect on the interior, and cover a bit on the perimeter (as a starter) is more valuable then anything Gallo can possibly provide off the bench.

The only thing that would make Gallo a better signing/ fit is if he signed for the vet minimum.

I doubt that happens.

Except we generally close games with AD at the 5

I wouldn't be mad with Serge, but I think Gallo makes more sense

Close with 2 of KCP, AC, Dennis, 3&d guard/wing like Wes and then Gallo, Bron, and AD

That does not matter.

Serge could still carve out 26 to 30 minutes of playing time (even if he does not close most games).

He would also provide you with an AD lite supplement (to close games) in the event AD were to foul out (or go down for a stretch).

If Serge has anything left in the tank (for equal pay) I don’t even see why this is a discussion.
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Post#497 » by LikeABosh » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:27 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
dreamshake wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Somehow I still hope we go after Bertans, even though I think Washington is probably going to give him a payday. He's the sniper we need for our offensive spacing. I know Danny Green wasn't what we all thought he was going to be, but if you look at the video, defenders were still not leaving him even tough he was ice cold. We need someone to fill that spacing gap.


Schroder can help with spacing if he can repeat what he did last year. He was a better 3pt shooter than any Laker. Same % as KCP on larger volume than Danny Green.

Danny had larger volume.

7 3PA vs 5.9 per 36

9.2 vs 7.9 per 100 poss


Do you think volume means rate of occurrence? That user is obviously referring to sample size
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Post#498 » by homecourtloss » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:45 pm

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Mos_Heat wrote:
dreamshake wrote:
Schroder can help with spacing if he can repeat what he did last year. He was a better 3pt shooter than any Laker. Same % as KCP on larger volume than Danny Green.

Danny had larger volume.

7 3PA vs 5.9 per 36

9.2 vs 7.9 per 100 poss


Im pretty sure green took easier threes though


Green took a higher % of threes as stand still or catch and then 1 dribble adjust, which of course are generally “easier.” Schroeder took many more threes off of the dribble more even though he has a slow release. Green was a very good shooter when tightly defended, though.

It was Schroeder’s best shooting season, and may be flukey, but his consistently good FT% is a good sign.

On catch and shoot threes:

Green, 36.9% on 4.0 three-point attempts per game
Schroeder, 41.4% on 3.6 three-point attempts per game

On pull up threes:

Green, 34.6% on .8 three-point attempts per game
Schroeder, 26.8% on 1.3 three-point attempts per game

Schroeder took 20% of his threes after 2+ dribbles
Green took 4% of his threes after 2+ dribbles

Wide open and open threes

Green, 35.8% on wide-open threes (41.6% of all his threes)
Schroeder, 44.6% on wide-open threes (42% of all his threes)

Green, 37.2% on open threes (37.5% of all his threes)
Schroeder, 35.1% on open threes, (52% of all his threes)

Tightly defended threes

Green, 38.8% on tightly defended threes (20.8% of all his threes)
Schroeder, 18.8% on tightly defended threes (6% of all his threes)
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Post#499 » by nzahir » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:21 pm

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Greyhound wrote:Serge’s ability to space the floor from the five spot, rim protect on the interior, and cover a bit on the perimeter (as a starter) is more valuable then anything Gallo can possibly provide off the bench.

The only thing that would make Gallo a better signing/ fit is if he signed for the vet minimum.

I doubt that happens.

Except we generally close games with AD at the 5

I wouldn't be mad with Serge, but I think Gallo makes more sense

Close with 2 of KCP, AC, Dennis, 3&d guard/wing like Wes and then Gallo, Bron, and AD

That does not matter.

Serge could still carve out 26 to 30 minutes of playing time (even if he does not close most games).

He would also provide you with an AD lite supplement (to close games) in the event AD were to foul out (or go down for a stretch).

If Serge has anything left in the tank (for equal pay) I don’t even see why this is a discussion.

What do you mean that does not matter?

The mot important thing is the final 8-10 min of a 4th quarter playoff game

Are we going to play that much of AD and a big in those closing 8-10 min?

Likely not

Why not focus on that? That is what matters most
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Post#500 » by KTM_2813 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:36 pm

Would Gallo play in the fourth quarter though? I think that Davis, James, Pope, and Schruder are locks. From there, it becomes a bit of a judgement call, but I might even prefer Caruso in place of Gallo, or even Bradley if he becomes available. I personally view the Gallo/Ibaka debate as more of a regular season thing, where I feel that Ibaka would be more valuable.
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