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Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#881 » by Sportfan73 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:40 am

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Sportfan73 wrote:Let’s see they are already top what 10 and 15? So yeah, I am saying that IF they take a step that’s where we’re at. Y’all are being HELLA short sighted on this

How did two top 15 NBA players got us only 6th seeded in the East?

Mediocre coach

Bingo. Also literally how many games was the entire starting 5 healthy? 15 maybe?
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#882 » by stormi » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:43 am

Embiid-MVP wrote:Plus I just watched a Heat team that wasn't suppose to be that great turn out to be pretty damn awesome. Don't count us out yet. We brought in Doc and Morey for a reason. Let's go get it


I think about this a lot. They went into the 2018 draft with zero picks, off of a 44-38 (6th seed) season with an aging roster after getting blitzed by Ben + Redick/Cov/Marco/Ersan running wide receiver routes in a quick work ECQF series.

At the time on the books they had:
30 year old James Johnson on a 3/$45M
Hassan Whiteside on a 4/$98M...
Dion Waiters on a 4/$52M
Tyler Johnson on a 4/$50M

No stars, no draft picks, bleak future, and Riley (with time) alleviated his mistakes, cleared those bad contracts and modernized his philosophy after watching how we slayed them with shooting. Expecting a quick fix is naive, but I have full faith that with a short hiatus this team can be right back in the thick of things contending with anyone. I'm so glad Daryl Morey is my GM.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#883 » by VDT » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:51 am

The Heat were still the 5th seed. If the playoffs were like every year (no bubble, no break) they would likely had been eliminated in the second round.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#884 » by XtremeDunkz » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:52 am

stormi wrote:
Embiid-MVP wrote:Plus I just watched a Heat team that wasn't suppose to be that great turn out to be pretty damn awesome. Don't count us out yet. We brought in Doc and Morey for a reason. Let's go get it


I think about this a lot. They went into the 2018 draft with zero picks, off of a 44-38 (6th seed) season with an aging roster after getting blitzed by Ben + Redick/Cov/Marco/Ersan running wide receiver routes in a quick work ECQF series.

At the time on the books they had:
30 year old James Johnson on a 3/$45M
Hassan Whiteside on a 4/$98M...
Dion Waiters on a 4/$52M
Tyler Johnson on a 4/$50M

No stars, no draft picks, bleak future, and Riley (with time) alleviated his mistakes, cleared those bad contracts and modernized his philosophy after watching how we slayed them with shooting. Expecting a quick fix is naive, but I have full faith that with a short hiatus this team can be right back in the thick of things contending with anyone. I'm so glad Daryl Morey is my GM.
The sixers single handedly saved the heat by giving them Jimmy.

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#885 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:52 am

I’m kinda annoyed Covington was already traded. He’s a piece I really wanted in a Harden-Simmons trade.

Simmons/Horford for Harden/Gordon with no picks added is really all I’d give at this point. Maybe add Smith. Not sure how content I’d be with that tbh.


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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#886 » by snoopdogg88 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:53 am

I know this is stupid, but If the idea is that Al Horford is still a borderline all star center, (just in an awful fit alongside Jo), would if not make more sense to trade Embiid for Harden instead of Ben?

Then you can have a big 3 of Simmons, Harden, Horford.

Instead of having to dump Horford for scraps.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#887 » by XtremeDunkz » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:57 am

snoopdogg88 wrote:I know this is stupid, but If the idea is that Al Horford is still a borderline all star center, (just in an awful fit alongside Jo), would if not make more sense to trade Embiid for Harden instead of Ben?

Then you can have a big 3 of Simmons, Harden, Horford.

Instead of having to dump Horford for scraps.
At this point you keep Horford and hope he can reestablish value in the league ala Chris Paul.

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Nemesis21 wrote:It is absolutely hilarious hearing people still say Embiid has superstar potential.The guy is one injury away from being Greg Oden.:lol: Except Oden manged to play over 100 games in the NBA, I don't think Embiid will play more.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#888 » by 76thBearCub » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:59 am

snoopdogg88 wrote:I know this is stupid, but If the idea is that Al Horford is still a borderline all star center, (just in an awful fit alongside Jo), would if not make more sense to trade Embiid for Harden instead of Ben?

Then you can have a big 3 of Simmons, Harden, Horford.

Instead of having to dump Horford for scraps.



I have no idea what your trying to say here but I strongly disagree.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#889 » by eyeatoma » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:00 am

snoopdogg88 wrote:I know this is stupid, but If the idea is that Al Horford is still a borderline all star center, (just in an awful fit alongside Jo), would if not make more sense to trade Embiid for Harden instead of Ben?

Then you can have a big 3 of Simmons, Harden, Horford.

Instead of having to dump Horford for scraps.


LOL seriously?
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#890 » by Sportfan73 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:01 am

snoopdogg88 wrote:I know this is stupid, but If the idea is that Al Horford is still a borderline all star center, (just in an awful fit alongside Jo), would if not make more sense to trade Embiid for Harden instead of Ben?

Then you can have a big 3 of Simmons, Harden, Horford.

Instead of having to dump Horford for scraps.

I don’t think it’s thaaaat far fetched. Open the game and floor up big time with horford, Harris, Simmons, Richardson, and harden. Watch Ben and James COOK. Then if James falls off a clif or walks in two years look we still have 3 or more years of Ben, most likely his loyalty for sticking with him, and a max slot or two with horford being not fully guaranteed the last year
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#891 » by youngcrev » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:02 am

snoopdogg88 wrote:I know this is stupid, but If the idea is that Al Horford is still a borderline all star center, (just in an awful fit alongside Jo), would if not make more sense to trade Embiid for Harden instead of Ben?

Then you can have a big 3 of Simmons, Harden, Horford.

Instead of having to dump Horford for scraps.


No, because Embiid is more impactful than Simmons and a borderline all star center.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#892 » by mithrandir17 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:03 am

Trade Embiid so you can accommodate Al Horford on being a starting center. That's a 4d chess move if I ever see one.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#893 » by stormi » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:06 am

XtremeDunkz wrote:
stormi wrote:
Embiid-MVP wrote:Plus I just watched a Heat team that wasn't suppose to be that great turn out to be pretty damn awesome. Don't count us out yet. We brought in Doc and Morey for a reason. Let's go get it


I think about this a lot. They went into the 2018 draft with zero picks, off of a 44-38 (6th seed) season with an aging roster after getting blitzed by Ben + Redick/Cov/Marco/Ersan running wide receiver routes in a quick work ECQF series.

At the time on the books they had:
30 year old James Johnson on a 3/$45M
Hassan Whiteside on a 4/$98M...
Dion Waiters on a 4/$52M
Tyler Johnson on a 4/$50M

No stars, no draft picks, bleak future, and Riley (with time) alleviated his mistakes, cleared those bad contracts and modernized his philosophy after watching how we slayed them with shooting. Expecting a quick fix is naive, but I have full faith that with a short hiatus this team can be right back in the thick of things contending with anyone. I'm so glad Daryl Morey is my GM.
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Sure and the Raptors were singlehandedly saved from being a perpetual stepping stool by being gifted Kawhi. The Rockets became arguably the second best team of the decade due to a swift 22 year old James Harden trade. The Lakers with Lebron/AD, and the Nets are looking next after the Billy King Massacre of 2013 with the signing of Kevin Durant.

The difference though is that we already have two all NBA talents. The most difficult part about the general managing job, acquiring those cornerstones, is complete. Morey's job is infinitely easier than Riley's was.

((Obviously LA is an incomparable situation due to their brand and location, but things happen. You have to be ready.))
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#894 » by Negrodamus » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:06 am

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#895 » by Stanford » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:07 am

What does "a young star" mean?
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#896 » by 76thBearCub » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:07 am

mithrandir17 wrote:Trade Embiid so you can accommodate Al Horford on being a starting center. That's a 4d chess move if I ever see one.



Lol more like a burger king ball pit move.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#897 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:08 am

Stanford wrote:What does "a young star" mean?


Clearly Caris LeVert.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#898 » by 76thBearCub » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:10 am

Stanford wrote:What does "a young star" mean?



Something less then a 3rd team all pro.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#899 » by sixers4real » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:11 am

fl311 wrote:From what I’ve very recently heard, there is no Nets deal. Rockets want Simmons and Morey knows this. Sixers aren’t willing to trade Ben at this time.

That’s all I know so please don’t ask more question. :)

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#900 » by VDT » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:16 am

No one is giving them that package. But it is what they should say if Morey is offering them Tobias+a couple of firsts and the Nets Levert, Allen +a couple of firsts. In the end they will accept the best offer they can get provided that it includes an asset with a high (realistic) upside.

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