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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#961 » by dpucane » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:55 am

Chi town wrote:Wonder if Otto could get us more now or at deadline? Expiring and a late 1st?
Probaly more likely a deadline deal with a contender. Would rather have that anyway with the 21 draft.

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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#962 » by wolves_89 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:02 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:
Chi town wrote:Wonder if Otto could get us more now or at deadline? Expiring and a late 1st?


Maybe Minny?

OPJ+#44 for #17 and James Johnson(cap dump)?


Definitely not Minnesota. There is no chance the Wolves trade #17 for one year of a very expensive guy who has literally missed over half the games from the last two seasons.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#963 » by Repeat 3-peat » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:09 am

wolves_89 wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:
Chi town wrote:Wonder if Otto could get us more now or at deadline? Expiring and a late 1st?


Maybe Minny?

OPJ+#44 for #17 and James Johnson(cap dump)?


Definitely not Minnesota. There is no chance the Wolves trade #17 for one year of a very expensive guy who has literally missed over half the games from the last two seasons.


That is definitely fair, though OPJ when healthy would be a good fit as a versatile defender and shooter for Minny. JJ doesn't seem to be a fit?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#964 » by wolves_89 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:13 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
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Maybe Minny?

OPJ+#44 for #17 and James Johnson(cap dump)?


Definitely not Minnesota. There is no chance the Wolves trade #17 for one year of a very expensive guy who has literally missed over half the games from the last two seasons.


That is definitely fair, though OPJ when healthy would be a good fit as a versatile defender and shooter for Minny. JJ doesn't seem to be a fit?


Johnson was actually a very good fit and played really well with the Wolves after he was acquired. The front office and coaching staff went out of their way to say how excited they were to have him. While I think there is a good chance he gets moved as salary filler in a trade, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolves keeping him until the trade deadline.

With respect to Porter, I think the Wolves would actually prefer to keep Johnson and his lower contract and that's before adding a 1st.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#965 » by ZOMG » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:51 am

Wonder why I don't see Lauri Markkanen in ANY of these trade rumors, considering half the people on this forum put him in every single one of their imaginary scenarions and generally treat him as if he has one foot out the door. :lol:

Face it, people. He's not going anywhere.

As for Kemba, Conley & co... if we're willing to bring in a small, ball-dominant, starter-level combo guard, you know it's bye bye to either Zach or Coby.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#966 » by Dez » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:49 am

ZOMG wrote:Wonder why I don't see Lauri Markkanen in ANY of these trade rumors, considering half the people on this forum put him in every single one of their imaginary scenarions and generally treat him as if he has one foot out the door. :lol:

Face it, people. He's not going anywhere.

As for Kemba, Conley & co... if we're willing to bring in a small, ball-dominant, starter-level combo guard, you know it's bye bye to either Zach or Coby.


Well because he's due a contract and nobody is going to give anything for a 7 footer who doesn't excel at anything or currently do anything above average and even struggles to reach average on most levels.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#967 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 am

I would move Lauri and 4# for good PG vet.. We can try Lavine at SF or just sign solid SF.
I actually think OPJ can be good starting player for us at PF. He is tall enough, speed aint a problem, he can shoot, he can defend.

For now I would keep only Zach, Coby, OPJ, Gafford, Mokoka, rest are up for grabs/trade..
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#968 » by Dez » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:13 am

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:I would move Lauri and 4# for good PG vet.. We can try Lavine at SF or just sign solid SF.
I actually think OPJ can be good starting player for us at PF. He is tall enough, speed aint a problem, he can shoot, he can defend.

For now I would keep only Zach, Coby, OPJ, Gafford, Mokoka, rest are up for grabs/trade..


Mokoka? Why him?
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Post#969 » by ZOMG » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:15 am

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:I would move Lauri and 4# for good PG vet.. We can try Lavine at SF or just sign solid SF.
I actually think OPJ can be good starting player for us at PF. He is tall enough, speed aint a problem, he can shoot, he can defend.

For now I would keep only Zach, Coby, OPJ, Gafford, Mokoka, rest are up for grabs/trade..


We must be talking about a different player. You won't see the current Otto Porter defending NBA 4's with his busted up hip.

Otto is damaged goods anyway. At this stage, anything he brings to the table is a bonus. He has been a true disaster on this team.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#970 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:22 am

Dez wrote:
PrimzyBulls81 wrote:I would move Lauri and 4# for good PG vet.. We can try Lavine at SF or just sign solid SF.
I actually think OPJ can be good starting player for us at PF. He is tall enough, speed aint a problem, he can shoot, he can defend.

For now I would keep only Zach, Coby, OPJ, Gafford, Mokoka, rest are up for grabs/trade..


Mokoka? Why him?

With right developement, he can be very solid backup on SF, he is good defender already..
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#971 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:24 am

ZOMG wrote:
PrimzyBulls81 wrote:I would move Lauri and 4# for good PG vet.. We can try Lavine at SF or just sign solid SF.
I actually think OPJ can be good starting player for us at PF. He is tall enough, speed aint a problem, he can shoot, he can defend.

For now I would keep only Zach, Coby, OPJ, Gafford, Mokoka, rest are up for grabs/trade..


We must be talking about a different player. You won't see the current Otto Porter defending NBA 4's with his busted up hip.

Otto is damaged goods anyway. At this stage, anything he brings to the table is a bonus. He has been a true disaster on this team.

When he was healthy, he was great, but it was extreme how much he was injured.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#972 » by ZOMG » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:31 am

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
PrimzyBulls81 wrote:I would move Lauri and 4# for good PG vet.. We can try Lavine at SF or just sign solid SF.
I actually think OPJ can be good starting player for us at PF. He is tall enough, speed aint a problem, he can shoot, he can defend.

For now I would keep only Zach, Coby, OPJ, Gafford, Mokoka, rest are up for grabs/trade..


We must be talking about a different player. You won't see the current Otto Porter defending NBA 4's with his busted up hip.

Otto is damaged goods anyway. At this stage, anything he brings to the table is a bonus. He has been a true disaster on this team.

When he was healthy, he was great, but it was extreme how much he was injured.


But that's just it. It was borderline irresponsible wishful thinking by GarPax that lead to the trade. Washigton KILLED us. They got rid of an albatross contract and a chronically injured player AND got something in return.

Bulls didn't do their due diligence.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#973 » by cjbulls » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:07 am

wolves_89 wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
Definitely not Minnesota. There is no chance the Wolves trade #17 for one year of a very expensive guy who has literally missed over half the games from the last two seasons.


That is definitely fair, though OPJ when healthy would be a good fit as a versatile defender and shooter for Minny. JJ doesn't seem to be a fit?


Johnson was actually a very good fit and played really well with the Wolves after he was acquired. The front office and coaching staff went out of their way to say how excited they were to have him. While I think there is a good chance he gets moved as salary filler in a trade, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolves keeping him until the trade deadline.

With respect to Porter, I think the Wolves would actually prefer to keep Johnson and his lower contract and that's before adding a 1st.


Wolves would do it in a heartbeat if Porters salary actually matched Johnson. They are trying to win now, and rightfully so with next years pick gone. Porter is a perfect fit. But the deal doesn’t work as given.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#974 » by wolves_89 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:22 am

cjbulls wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:
That is definitely fair, though OPJ when healthy would be a good fit as a versatile defender and shooter for Minny. JJ doesn't seem to be a fit?


Johnson was actually a very good fit and played really well with the Wolves after he was acquired. The front office and coaching staff went out of their way to say how excited they were to have him. While I think there is a good chance he gets moved as salary filler in a trade, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolves keeping him until the trade deadline.

With respect to Porter, I think the Wolves would actually prefer to keep Johnson and his lower contract and that's before adding a 1st.


Wolves would do it in a heartbeat if Porters salary actually matched Johnson. They are trying to win now, and rightfully so with next years pick gone. Porter is a perfect fit. But the deal doesn’t work as given.


I wouldn't be so sure about the Wolves wanting Porter over Johnson. Johnson's production in his 14 games in Minnesota were better than Porter's 14 games in Chicago, plus Johnson was considered a great veteran presence who provided a needed toughness to the rotation.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#975 » by cjbulls » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:39 am

wolves_89 wrote:
cjbulls wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
Johnson was actually a very good fit and played really well with the Wolves after he was acquired. The front office and coaching staff went out of their way to say how excited they were to have him. While I think there is a good chance he gets moved as salary filler in a trade, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolves keeping him until the trade deadline.

With respect to Porter, I think the Wolves would actually prefer to keep Johnson and his lower contract and that's before adding a 1st.


Wolves would do it in a heartbeat if Porters salary actually matched Johnson. They are trying to win now, and rightfully so with next years pick gone. Porter is a perfect fit. But the deal doesn’t work as given.


I wouldn't be so sure about the Wolves wanting Porter over Johnson. Johnson's production in his 14 games in Minnesota were better than Porter's 14 games in Chicago, plus Johnson was considered a great veteran presence who provided a needed toughness to the rotation.


No I am sure. Porter is a great fit on any star laden team because he add 15-18 pts playing off the ball more or less. He can shoot, pass and play defense. Injury concerns are his only real problem (besides getting overpaid by Wash). JJ is a career backup at age 33 who missed half the season the last two years, 14 games doesn't change that. It's not even close.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#976 » by wolves_89 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:42 am

cjbulls wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
cjbulls wrote:
Wolves would do it in a heartbeat if Porters salary actually matched Johnson. They are trying to win now, and rightfully so with next years pick gone. Porter is a perfect fit. But the deal doesn’t work as given.


I wouldn't be so sure about the Wolves wanting Porter over Johnson. Johnson's production in his 14 games in Minnesota were better than Porter's 14 games in Chicago, plus Johnson was considered a great veteran presence who provided a needed toughness to the rotation.


No I am sure. Porter is a great fit on any star laden team because he add 15-18 pts playing off the ball more or less. He can shoot, pass and play defense. Injury concerns are his only real problem (besides getting overpaid by Wash). JJ is a career backup at age 33 who missed half the season the last two years, 14 games doesn't change that. It's not even close.


Lucky for you that you get to keep Porter, and I'll be just as happy that the Wolves will not be getting him. Everybody wins.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#977 » by cjbulls » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:58 am

wolves_89 wrote:
cjbulls wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
I wouldn't be so sure about the Wolves wanting Porter over Johnson. Johnson's production in his 14 games in Minnesota were better than Porter's 14 games in Chicago, plus Johnson was considered a great veteran presence who provided a needed toughness to the rotation.


No I am sure. Porter is a great fit on any star laden team because he add 15-18 pts playing off the ball more or less. He can shoot, pass and play defense. Injury concerns are his only real problem (besides getting overpaid by Wash). JJ is a career backup at age 33 who missed half the season the last two years, 14 games doesn't change that. It's not even close.


Lucky for you that you get to keep Porter, and I'll be just as happy that the Wolves will not be getting him. Everybody wins.


You keep confusing my and your thoughts and opinions with that of the T'Wolves. I am only speaking about what the Wolves would do. I get that you are a James Johnson fan and like him on the team. But that wasn't relevant to the discussion.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#978 » by JohnnyTapwater » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:06 pm

What is this chatter I'm hearing about Zach Lavine being traded to the 76ers?
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NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#979 » by MisterRoy » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:47 pm

JohnnyTapwater wrote:What is this chatter I'm hearing about Zach Lavine being traded to the 76ers?

Chatter from where? It's most likely nothing. We aren't trading him.


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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#980 » by cjbulls » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:04 pm

JohnnyTapwater wrote:What is this chatter I'm hearing about Zach Lavine being traded to the 76ers?


He’s a great fit for what they need. Not sure if any deals make sense. Richardson + Thybulle? I don’t think Morey wants to throw in picks. You generally don’t want Zach to be your “last stand” when going in with all of your assets.

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