Bucks Bogdan Bogdanovic Boondoggle

[coolhandluke121]

The idea of Donte always seemed better than what we actually got. He is certainly a natural out there though, but him nose diving in the bubble def was not good for his stock.

He was practically a rookie. What we got from him was outstanding, and only a glimpse of things to come. He was bad in the bubble, but there's no way that trumps what he did the rest of the year. And even when playing badly, he showed why he's such a good player most of the time (e.g., getting good shots at the rim almost at will but missing them at a ridiculous rate that is not reflective of his history as a player or his performance before the bubble).

[Pachinko_]

yeah rookie but 24 in a couple of months

[leroyjw10]

The idea of Donte always seemed better than what we actually got. He is certainly a natural out there though, but him nose diving in the bubble def was not good for his stock.

He was practically a rookie. What we got from him was outstanding, and only a glimpse of things to come. He was bad in the bubble, but there's no way that trumps what he did the rest of the year. And even when playing badly, he showed why he's such a good player most of the time (e.g., getting good shots at the rim almost at will but missing them at a ridiculous rate that is not reflective of his history as a player or his performance before the bubble).

It does, though, which is the exact reason we also got rid of Bledsoe. Horst even said they need guys with skills translatable to the playoffs. Bogdan's skills are translatable and have already translated at large international events.

For as much as we "overpaid" for Jrue, this trade feels like an underpay for Bogdan.

[jakecronus8]

There was far more head scratching tape on Donte than good tape. Very spastic at times. Like many his true effectiveness hinges on that jumper. I’m skeptical. And despite all that tested athleticism he was just never going to be a great finisher or ball handler because he has small hands.

[Nowak008]

There was far more head scratching tape on Donte than good tape. Very spastic at times. Like many his true effectiveness hinges on that jumper. I’m skeptical. And despite all that tested athleticism he was just never going to be a great finisher or ball handler because he has small hands.

I think there good reasons why RPM loved Donte so much. Playing with Giannis helped, but there is a reason why Donte had a better RPM compared to the other role players on the team. The guy is a winning player.

[coolhandluke121]

The idea of Donte always seemed better than what we actually got. He is certainly a natural out there though, but him nose diving in the bubble def was not good for his stock.

He was practically a rookie. What we got from him was outstanding, and only a glimpse of things to come. He was bad in the bubble, but there's no way that trumps what he did the rest of the year. And even when playing badly, he showed why he's such a good player most of the time (e.g., getting good shots at the rim almost at will but missing them at a ridiculous rate that is not reflective of his history as a player or his performance before the bubble).

It does, though, which is the exact reason we also got rid of Bledsoe. Horst even said they need guys with skills translatable to the playoffs. Bogdan's skills are translatable and have already translated at large international events.

For as much as we "overpaid" for Jrue, this trade feels like an underpay for Bogdan.

There is no parallel universe anywhere in which I don't laugh hysterically until I'm literally in pain at the notion that you should draw these type of conclusions about a player's ability in the playoffs after seeing him in the playoffs once, in basically his rookie year, in the weirdest playoff situation in NBA history. JFC.

[Prez]

Donte was legit good before the bubble. He’s one of the few young Bucks that Bucks fans weren’t dumb/homers to be optimistic about (unless they thought he was gonna be a star or something). It’s not a coincidence almost all the impact metrics across the board loved him pre bubble.

[raferfenix]

Bogdan wanted to come to Milwaukee and the Kings did him a solid.

They must really like Donte sure. But no way they think Ersan or DJ are remotely worth their salaries.

Instead of waiting it out to see if a better offer came in, or daring Bogdan to sign a contract with the Hawks or whoever as a RFA, they went the player-friendly route.

I give Sacramento's new power structure props on this one. They've had a toxic lockerroom for years now and must recognize it and made at least 1 move to try and make amends.

[ShootingtheJ]

These jabronis saying DD is better than Bogdan, come on. It's not like he's 19; Miami exposed him; Tyler Herro and Dragic made him look like he was in 1st gear. Pressure shooting wasn't there. Big gamble thinking he's going to be near Bogdan going forward.

The trade suggests that Sacramento thinks DVD is better. They didn't make the trade to acquire Ersan and DJ.

You have a lot of trust in the Kings' talent evaluation.

Just remember that Vlade Divac is no longer in charge there. Monte McNair is qualified and should at least be competent.

[raferfenix]

Donte was legit good before the bubble. He’s one of the few young Bucks that Bucks fans weren’t dumb/homers to be optimistic about (unless they thought he was gonna be a star or something). It’s not a coincidence almost all the impact metrics across the board loved him pre bubble.

I'm still high on Donte and am happy for the opportunity he has in Sacramento.

Hield seems to be on the way out in the not too distant future. Kings are going to need all the help they can get in the backcourt.

Milwaukee being in such a fierce championship-or-bust mode is tough for any young player, even aside from all the variables in the bubble.

Sacramento has more time than the Bucks do for Donte to develop at his own pace.

Milwaukee desperately needs shooting right now and Bogdan is ready in that department, whereas that's one of the bigger variables with Donte's longer term trajectory that will determine whether he's more role player vs solid starter.

[tski1972]

anyone know if Justin James can be a rotation player?

I really like him. His college years hid a really good player because Wyoming was so overmatched. Then he goes to Sacramento and plays for the worst development coach in the league in Walton. Just look at how much better Brandon Ingram looked under a different coach

Just watch one of James G league games. Everything is there. He can create offense for himself and others, space the floor, rebound and defend. He needs to continue to get stronger. He might not be in the rotation when the season begins, but he will be by seasons end.

He only played three G League games, one of which he only played nine minutes. Hard to evaluate anyone under that scenario.

[JimmyTheKid]

I'm rooting for Donte. I've liked him since the first handful of times I watched him play for the Bucks. Never understood the criticisms. Even if he ends up a better player than Bogdan, this was the right move at the right time. Donte is never going to be a superstar, so the chances we ever truly regret this deal are close to nil. Its just too bad he couldn't be part of this team, but you have to give something of value to get something of value. The rare win-win for both organizations.

[GoldenAntlers]

I'm rooting for Donte. I've liked him since the first handful of times I watched him play for the Bucks. Never understood the criticisms. Even if he ends up a better player than Bogdan, this was the right move at the right time. Donte is never going to be a superstar, so the chances we ever truly regret this deal are close to nil. Its just too bad he couldn't be part of this team, but you have to give something of value to get something of value. The rare win-win for both organizations.

Really loved the energy Donte brings to the court, but Bogdan fits our need so much better and is a legitimate starter today. Wishing him a great career, but feel bad he's in Sacramento right now.

[Ruzious]

Donte's a good solid smart skilled tough player - nothing more, nothing less. There was legit frustration with his fall-off in play in the bubble. I wish him well, and I won't lose sleep because he was traded.

[ShootingtheJ]

He was practically a rookie. What we got from him was outstanding, and only a glimpse of things to come. He was bad in the bubble, but there's no way that trumps what he did the rest of the year. And even when playing badly, he showed why he's such a good player most of the time (e.g., getting good shots at the rim almost at will but missing them at a ridiculous rate that is not reflective of his history as a player or his performance before the bubble).

It does, though, which is the exact reason we also got rid of Bledsoe. Horst even said they need guys with skills translatable to the playoffs. Bogdan's skills are translatable and have already translated at large international events.

For as much as we "overpaid" for Jrue, this trade feels like an underpay for Bogdan.

There is no parallel universe anywhere in which I don't laugh hysterically until I'm literally in pain at the notion that you should draw these type of conclusions about a player's ability in the playoffs after seeing him in the playoffs once, in basically his rookie year, in the weirdest playoff situation in NBA history. JFC.

Especially when that player was fantastic in an elimination game.

[coolhandluke121]

It does, though, which is the exact reason we also got rid of Bledsoe. Horst even said they need guys with skills translatable to the playoffs. Bogdan's skills are translatable and have already translated at large international events.

For as much as we "overpaid" for Jrue, this trade feels like an underpay for Bogdan.

There is no parallel universe anywhere in which I don't laugh hysterically until I'm literally in pain at the notion that you should draw these type of conclusions about a player's ability in the playoffs after seeing him in the playoffs once, in basically his rookie year, in the weirdest playoff situation in NBA history. JFC.

Especially when that player was fantastic in an elimination game.

Hang on, let me see what he did in big moments in college too. I wish I was a Badger fan so I would see how he played as a true freshman against a favored Badger team in a huge NCAA tournament game. Hmmm, I wonder if there's any chance he almost single-handedly brought Villanova back in the second half of that game. Would be a nice feather in his cap to go with what I heard was a pretty good tournament performance when they won the title. Not that I would base my entire perception of his ability in huge games on that, but it would be an interesting dilemma for people suggesting he's not good in huge games because struggled in his first NBA playoff action, incidentally while being asked to do too much because so many vets on the team were crapping the bed every bit as bad as he was, if not worse.

Hypothetically, of course - I haven't researched it yet.

[Chad34]

anyone know if Justin James can be a rotation player?

I really like him. His college years hid a really good player because Wyoming was so overmatched. Then he goes to Sacramento and plays for the worst development coach in the league in Walton. Just look at how much better Brandon Ingram looked under a different coach

Just watch one of James G league games. Everything is there. He can create offense for himself and others, space the floor, rebound and defend. He needs to continue to get stronger. He might not be in the rotation when the season begins, but he will be by seasons end.

He only played three G League games, one of which he only played nine minutes. Hard to evaluate anyone under that scenario.

This is only one game, but he shows some nice stuff

Watch on YouTube

[HKPackFan]

I'm rooting for Donte. I've liked him since the first handful of times I watched him play for the Bucks. Never understood the criticisms. Even if he ends up a better player than Bogdan, this was the right move at the right time. Donte is never going to be a superstar, so the chances we ever truly regret this deal are close to nil. Its just too bad he couldn't be part of this team, but you have to give something of value to get something of value. The rare win-win for both organizations.

Really loved the energy Donte brings to the court, but Bogdan fits our need so much better and is a legitimate starter today. Wishing him a great career, but feel bad he's in Sacramento right now.

Same. I love Donte,i was genuinely excited about him, and had really high hopes. Just seems like a baller and a winner. There's not a lot of picks I've had the opportunity to root for..after Giannis , I was one of the last on the Jabari band wagon, and we've had the president. So I was very excited about DDV.

I think he might be long term overall better than bogi, but right now BB is exactly what we need over donte.

[Chad34]

I really like him. His college years hid a really good player because Wyoming was so overmatched. Then he goes to Sacramento and plays for the worst development coach in the league in Walton. Just look at how much better Brandon Ingram looked under a different coach

Just watch one of James G league games. Everything is there. He can create offense for himself and others, space the floor, rebound and defend. He needs to continue to get stronger. He might not be in the rotation when the season begins, but he will be by seasons end.

He only played three G League games, one of which he only played nine minutes. Hard to evaluate anyone under that scenario.

This is only one game, but he shows some nice stuff

Watch on YouTube

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Watch on YouTube

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[MiltownHawkeye]

At least the Donte pick ended up being a good one. If we don't draft someone that can play at that spot (i.e. DJ, Vaughn) then we probably don't land Bogdanovic.