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Steven1562 wrote:
Draft day is here! Finally, we can see who we pick. Can't wait for the board overreactions to our pick.Can I get an over/under on the number of references to Caboclo?
Indeed wrote:I wonder if he is quicker than Thomas, but Thomas is smart (defensive basketball IQ) and a willing defender. I cannot say too much about Nwora on his defense, as the biggest question is his defensive IQ, particularly if he knows when to switch and how to play a zone.
Still if we cannot play Thomas the majority of time, I wonder if we are giving him minutes as compare to other 3+D.
niQ wrote:Steven1562 wrote:
Draft day is here! Finally, we can see who we pick. Can't wait for the board overreactions to our pick.
Whoever we draft, I fully expect the board to collectively say... Who?
niQ wrote:Steven1562 wrote:
Draft day is here! Finally, we can see who we pick. Can't wait for the board overreactions to our pick.
Whoever we draft, I fully expect the board to collectively say... Who?
billy_hoyle wrote:nabbs wrote:Jordan Nwora is terrible value at 29. Bet on upside. Always.
If you want, trade back in to the draft and acquire 2 seconds if you really want Nwora.
Coulda said the same thing about Siakam. If the Raptors love the guy, why would they gamble that the next pick isn't going to draft him? Trade down is risky. Hasn't worked well for the Leafs IMO.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:I'd be disappointed if it was Nwora, but I also would be over myself immediately because the Raptors have earned the benefit of the doubt. But, yeah, I get the DeAndre Daniels vibes from him.
because people already had their choices down a long time ago so they’re not trying to hear any other names other their choice.mademan wrote:I dont get the hate for Nwora. Dude shot 40% from 3 on 6 attempts, can handle the ball, can pass, has a nice feel for the game and has some strong defensive potential. I think if he's a fine pick at 29 and a steal in the 2nd round.
RaptorsNorth wrote:If we get Nwora or Elijah Hughes Im ok with that.
DreamTeam09 wrote:If Jordan nwora is a black Duncan Robinson, pretty sure that would be considered a steal at 29. JN comes in with a better pedigree / accolades than Duncan as well
I ran some numbers, and over the last 3 years out of the mock draft ranked forwards, only three made more than 150 threes:
Jordan Nwora (178 made 3s on 39.4%)
Elijah Hughes (165 - 34%)
Tres Tinkle (152 - 33%)
Now Saddiq Bey didn't make the cut because he only played two seasons, and he likely would be at the top of the list given his shooting. Aaron Nesmith had a great year, but his brilliant run was only 14 games and the year previous he shot 34%. Nwora has a better track record than both, yet he isn't mocked too high.
Depending on your perspective, he might grade out as a first round talent given he is 6'8 and shoots from deep range at 40%.
Dalek wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:If Jordan nwora is a black Duncan Robinson, pretty sure that would be considered a steal at 29. JN comes in with a better pedigree / accolades than Duncan as well
I laughed at this, but it is true he does a lot of what Robinson can do. Nwora's next step is shooting better off movement, but I think he is progressing.
I wrote this a while back, but Nwora is very underrated in the draft community despite having size and numbers that show his value:I ran some numbers, and over the last 3 years out of the mock draft ranked forwards, only three made more than 150 threes:
Jordan Nwora (178 made 3s on 39.4%)
Elijah Hughes (165 - 34%)
Tres Tinkle (152 - 33%)
Now Saddiq Bey didn't make the cut because he only played two seasons, and he likely would be at the top of the list given his shooting. Aaron Nesmith had a great year, but his brilliant run was only 14 games and the year previous he shot 34%. Nwora has a better track record than both, yet he isn't mocked too high.
Depending on your perspective, he might grade out as a first round talent given he is 6'8 and shoots from deep range at 40%.
My preference would be to trade up by trading Norm for Saddiq Bey, and then drafting Tillman at 29. If that doesn't happen, a combo of Nwora and a big like Nathan Knight or Kaleb Wesson or Nick Richards looks good at 59.
Dalek wrote:Maybe Draft twitter is wrong about Nwora's stock. Seth Greenberg from ESPN just went on the Sportnet 590 and just mentioned Nwora as a good fit for Toronto at 29. He also mentioned Nnaji, Flynn, Jones, Tillman, Woodard and Oturu, but this is one of the first times I am hearing Nwora being a first-round type of talent: https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/smith-and-jones/draft-targets-raptors-may-eye-no-29-pick/
“I think he’s one of the best shooters in the draft, but he’s more than just a shooter,” said Jonathan Givony of ESPN. “He’s a high energy guy who brings competitiveness. He knows how to play basketball. He was a very productive player in the ACC. He has international experience (with the Nigerian national team). He’s bouncy. He plays with unlimited confidence, he’s a good passer when he wants to be. … I think he’s an all-around good player.”
“It’s a short turnaround from draft to start of NBA season,” Givony said. “You want guys who are ready to play and he’s ready to play. You don’t have to put 20 pounds on him or work on his jump shot. He’s a lot more ready to contribute than other guys in this draft. Guys like him are going to benefit from that.
“I would be shocked if he isn’t drafted. I think he has a chance to be a first-round pick, and if he’s not a first-round pick, I expect him to be a popular guy in the second round.”
