2020 NBA Draft Thread

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Are you happy with the Thunder’s draft night decisions?

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Post#401 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:52 am

So we have Oubre as an asset and an albatros contract in Horford. Not sure both those guys can have the same mindset as CP3...
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Post#402 » by jake_swivel » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:53 am

ThunderBolt wrote:Probably not supposed to post this but here is Vecenie’s full write up if anyone wants to read...


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Post#403 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:53 am

Cuban just hates Americans.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Post#404 » by thedoppelganger » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:55 am

Read on Twitter

Weaver already mirroring Presti by being really active on draft night. Love Kennard on the Clips.
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Post#405 » by spearsy23 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:56 am

"The real, biggest concern, though, is that he’s also not overly explosive. Much more fluid than he is quick-twitch. Struggles to elevate over the top of players around the basket and isn’t really so quick that he can just blow by defenders in isolation-type situations. If he gets bumped at all, it slows down his momentum in a real way. It is exceptionally difficult to play in the NBA if you can’t play through contact. This is why he doesn’t finish nearly as well at the rim as you’d expect. Only made about 53 percent of his shots at the basket in the halfcourt, a number more in line with a guard who is strong at finishing."

This part is concerning to me
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#406 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:56 am

RunOKC wrote:Hope he can hold up in the NBA

Just take our time, especially the first year. Fortunately okc has plenty of fast food establishments to help pack on the lbs.
bisme37 wrote:If there were magnets in basketballs so strong they changed the path of the ball as it flew through the air, wouldn't the ball then stick magnetically to the rim when it got there?
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Post#407 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:57 am

spearsy23 wrote:"The real, biggest concern, though, is that he’s also not overly explosive. Much more fluid than he is quick-twitch. Struggles to elevate over the top of players around the basket and isn’t really so quick that he can just blow by defenders in isolation-type situations. If he gets bumped at all, it slows down his momentum in a real way. It is exceptionally difficult to play in the NBA if you can’t play through contact. This is why he doesn’t finish nearly as well at the rim as you’d expect. Only made about 53 percent of his shots at the basket in the halfcourt, a number more in line with a guard who is strong at finishing."

This part is concerning to me

I would imagine some of that can be improved by getting stronger, no?
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Post#408 » by spearsy23 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:59 am

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spearsy23 wrote:"The real, biggest concern, though, is that he’s also not overly explosive. Much more fluid than he is quick-twitch. Struggles to elevate over the top of players around the basket and isn’t really so quick that he can just blow by defenders in isolation-type situations. If he gets bumped at all, it slows down his momentum in a real way. It is exceptionally difficult to play in the NBA if you can’t play through contact. This is why he doesn’t finish nearly as well at the rim as you’d expect. Only made about 53 percent of his shots at the basket in the halfcourt, a number more in line with a guard who is strong at finishing."

This part is concerning to me

I would imagine some of that can be improved by getting stronger, no?

Probably, but as he gets heavier does he also lose some of that fluidity?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#409 » by El Hespiritu » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:59 am

Mmmh...

OK. It's done deal.

TimberTrolls could trade him again on spot but I guess the fans would not forgive G-Rose for that so it's safe to assume he'll play at least one year at MIN.
That's weird for D-Load but we'll see how Saunders deal it.

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Post#410 » by spearsy23 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:01 am

One final bit of negativity from me. I think there's some validity to asking who does a guy look like, and what successful player does poku remind you of?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#411 » by jake_swivel » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:02 am

spearsy23 wrote:"The real, biggest concern, though, is that he’s also not overly explosive. Much more fluid than he is quick-twitch. Struggles to elevate over the top of players around the basket and isn’t really so quick that he can just blow by defenders in isolation-type situations. If he gets bumped at all, it slows down his momentum in a real way. It is exceptionally difficult to play in the NBA if you can’t play through contact. This is why he doesn’t finish nearly as well at the rim as you’d expect. Only made about 53 percent of his shots at the basket in the halfcourt, a number more in line with a guard who is strong at finishing."

This part is concerning to me


You should absolutely be concerned. He’s a boom or bust prospect.

Not sure how many explosive 200 pound seven foot dudes there are out there who play through contact. Seems like a given with that body type and being a teenager. If you’re being optimistic, you look at his skill set and size and hope he’s a unicorn. Presti has about a thousand swings at it right now. Getting all-star level players is the name of the game. I’m cool with him taking big swings. Especially in this draft.
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Post#412 » by jake_swivel » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:03 am

El Hespiritu wrote:Mmmh...

OK. It's done deal.

TimberTrolls could trade him again on spot but I guess the fans would not forgive G-Rose for that so it's safe to assume he'll play at least one year at MIN.
That's weird for D-Load but we'll see how Saunders deal it.

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For sure I'll return sooner or later even if just to say 'hi'.

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...or tons of bad luck, when it comes to W-L ratio, 'course... whatever floats your boat.

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Post#413 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:04 am

spearsy23 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:"The real, biggest concern, though, is that he’s also not overly explosive. Much more fluid than he is quick-twitch. Struggles to elevate over the top of players around the basket and isn’t really so quick that he can just blow by defenders in isolation-type situations. If he gets bumped at all, it slows down his momentum in a real way. It is exceptionally difficult to play in the NBA if you can’t play through contact. This is why he doesn’t finish nearly as well at the rim as you’d expect. Only made about 53 percent of his shots at the basket in the halfcourt, a number more in line with a guard who is strong at finishing."

This part is concerning to me

I would imagine some of that can be improved by getting stronger, no?

Probably, but as he gets heavier does he also lose some of that fluidity?

Of course not. 8-)

Seriously, though it’s hard to say. Watching his highlight videos are impossible to gauge much. Most of them have fewer fans than a middle school game. I would be more skeptical if Giannis hadn’t come from the same league. Not saying he’ll be Giannis but that the league itself doesn’t doom him to mediocrity.
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Post#414 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:04 am

Well Presti decided to gamble today (Horford and Poku). Not sure that's his best skill but let's hope we get lucky ;)
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Post#415 » by El Hespiritu » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:06 am

jake_swivel wrote:Oh great, now I’m getting separation anxiety.

You look strong.

You'll be fine.
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Post#416 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:06 am

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spearsy23 wrote:"The real, biggest concern, though, is that he’s also not overly explosive. Much more fluid than he is quick-twitch. Struggles to elevate over the top of players around the basket and isn’t really so quick that he can just blow by defenders in isolation-type situations. If he gets bumped at all, it slows down his momentum in a real way. It is exceptionally difficult to play in the NBA if you can’t play through contact. This is why he doesn’t finish nearly as well at the rim as you’d expect. Only made about 53 percent of his shots at the basket in the halfcourt, a number more in line with a guard who is strong at finishing."

This part is concerning to me


You should absolutely be concerned. He’s a boom or bust prospect.

Not sure how many explosive 200 pound seven foot dudes there are out there who play through contact. Seems like a given with that body type and being a teenager. If you’re being optimistic, you look at his skill set and size and hope he’s a unicorn. Presti has about a thousand swings at it right now. Getting all-star level players is the name of the game. I’m cool with him taking big swings. Especially in this draft.

This year is the closest thing we have as to a free pick. If he busts, next year will have much more pressure.
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Post#417 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:06 am

We baically turned Grant/Rubio and Schroeder into Poku.
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Post#418 » by jake_swivel » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:07 am

spearsy23 wrote:One final bit of negativity from me. I think there's some validity to asking who does a guy look like, and what successful player does poku remind you of?


Who did giannis remind you of? Nokic? Porzingis?

Who do the remaining players in this draft remind you of? Because they remind me of second rounders in almost every other draft.

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Post#419 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:07 am

Woj is hyping Micic. Nice.
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Post#420 » by jambalaya » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:09 am

I wondered about Poku's fit with Bazely. Now and down the road. Guess we'll find out.

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