Grade the Bey pick!
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Why not if we weren't sure about Kennard. I was against moving him without a lottery pick back but Saddiq was basically lottery talent and 3andD Wings/Forwards are a need for every team
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This one makes sense and doesn't. Getting some more youth on the wing was a need but Bey isn't quite a young prospect. Not in the Toppin territory of age but still two years older than either of the other two picks for Detroit. But Bey is a good player so age might not be a huge deal here.
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Bey's potential is a high end role player at best basically what Luke was already developing into. I dont like this trade or pick its a lateral move at best.
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Looks like good value at that pick. 3&D should fit with just about anyone as we rebuild.
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I love this pick. Bey is a legit wing who can shoot, handle, and defend all over the court.
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I’m fine with the trade, even if Luke pops this year into a 20ppg 45% 3pt guy he’s gonna need to take a big salary slot soon after one great season.
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i voted i miss kennard (because i already do
) but i like bey's game. he's got size, a bit of skill with the ball, can shoot well, etc.

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Bey is a beast down on the block, like pure bully ball. Reminds me of Corliss Williamson. Also got a nice stroke from three. Very impressed.
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ven412 wrote:I’m fine with the trade, even if Luke pops this year into a 20ppg 45% 3pt guy he’s gonna need to take a big salary slot soon after one great season.
If that happens people will be crying the blues, but they won't take a step back and reflect on how much easier things are going to be for him playing alongside Kawhi and George.
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Bay is legit shooter. I can see him as a Klay Thompson type player and play shooting guard. This Modern NBA teams win with shooting. Klay is 6ft 7in and Bey 6ft 8 in. With his size and strength he would be too big and strong for most shooting guards in the league to defend. Homerun selection
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I'll miss Kennard's craftiness on offense - I'll always be a fan of his game. His defensive numbers are so bad, though. He'll get paid for his offense more than he's worth with his defense weighing him down. Also has sketchy knees.
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A. My favourite pick of the night.
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Loved this pick.
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Watch Saddiq casually explain Plato's allegory of the cave and quote famed stoic, Seneca:
https://hoopshype.com/2020/10/27/nba-draft-best-shooters-saddiq-bey-interview-villanova-wildcats/
Also mentioned in the article that his mom is a superintendent.
Are there any particular topics from your studies that stood out to you and interested you?
SB: That’s a great topic. We learned [about Plato’s Allegory of the Cave] in philosophy at Villanova. It’s just about man’s reality and what we see and the sun is supposed to represent knowledge and stuff like that. But in the caves, there were cave dwellers that were chained and they were facing toward a wall so they couldn’t see behind them. All they could see what was in front of them. So it kind of symbolizes what their perspective was in life: whatever was in front of them was all they could see. All they could see was shadows behind, they couldn’t see what was outside the cave, which was enlightenment. The people that were able to get out of the cave, they were able to see the full enlightenment, basically, God. So it kind of ties into life, man, because everybody has a different perception of reality. I think about it whenever life feels stressful or something about the game feels stressful. I look back and think: how big really is your problem, you know, in the grand scheme of things? It kind of helps to relax you. It helps you center back in about different things.
I think, just thinking about the game, just doing what I love, it shouldn’t be any pressure or stress. Because you’re doing something that you love every day and that you want to be the best at. For me, I think a lesson I’ve learned in life, not trying to compare myself to anybody else. You just compare and just see: can you be the best each and every day and can you be better than you were yesterday? I think once you do that, then you can reach your full potential in anything you want to do. I think once you start comparing yourself to others, that’s not your reality, that’s somebody else’s and they go through what they go through every day. You can only do your best you can be every day. We think about our thoughts so much. We just have to kind of think about the bigger picture. I think that helps you do what you love. I think once you figure out what you want to do in life, do what you love, I think you should. I think we all try to get closer to the truth each and every day. But yeah, that’s just some of the philosophy, man, that I love. [Laughs] I was not expecting to talk about that.
How do these things, which help shape your worldview, apply to your daily life?
SB: I’m continuing to learn. I’m always studying from different philosophies. I’m trying to be the best human I can be. I’m always trying to learn. I remember hearing a quote [from Lucius Annaeus Seneca] saying that we suffer more in imagination than we do in reality. I truly believe that. I’m really spiritual. I’m a firm believer in God. I love the study of the mind. I’m always trying to learn and apply things to my life to help me be the best I can be.
https://hoopshype.com/2020/10/27/nba-draft-best-shooters-saddiq-bey-interview-villanova-wildcats/
Also mentioned in the article that his mom is a superintendent.
Tom Gores' Securus faced a class action lawsuit in 2024. The company engaged in a "quid pro quo kickback scheme" with county jails in Michigan which banned in-person visits in order to maximize revenue from voice and video calls.
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Love Saddiq. His shot form is obviously weird af, but he plays under control. Smart player, smart guy. I honestly believe his floor is a solid starter, and while his ceiling isn’t super high, he could be a borderline all-star some day in the mold of Ariza.
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...And here's a pre-draft article from 538 gushing over how Bey, Vassell, and Nesmith are perfect fits in the modern NBA:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/these-3-nba-draft-prospects-are-perfect-fits-for-the-modern-league/
[Bey's] a rangy, strong, 6-foot-8 forward (with a 6-foot-11 wingspan) who drained a staggering 45.1 percent — fourth-best in the NCAA and first in the Big East — of the 5.6 threes he launched per game last season. (According to KenPom, Bey also finished 85th overall in effective field-goal percentage (58.5) and first in offensive rating in the Big East (119.0) among all players whose usage rate was at least 20 percent.)
Bey can function in any offensive or defensive system, rebound, move the ball and, if all goes well, eventually make decisions with it in his hands. On offense, Villanova coach Jay Wright believes Bey can even play some point guard, while his defense could be even more versatile. Last season, Bey was an across-the-board stopper, according to Wildcat assistant coach Kyle Neptune: “If it was the point guard, Saddiq would guard him. If it was a two or three man, Saddiq would guard them. If the best player was a four man, Saddiq would guard him, too.”
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/these-3-nba-draft-prospects-are-perfect-fits-for-the-modern-league/
Tom Gores' Securus faced a class action lawsuit in 2024. The company engaged in a "quid pro quo kickback scheme" with county jails in Michigan which banned in-person visits in order to maximize revenue from voice and video calls.