The 2020 NBA Draft

[matt131]

dang josh richardson to dallas for seth curry.

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[bwgood77]

I hear you, I'll root hard for Jalen. Im just failing to remember many guys like him that were successful.

There are just not that many defensive PFs that can hit the 3. Is he not kind of like Ibaka? Ibaka went at 24 (actually one of the picks we traded to dump Kurt Thomas).

If he works out the way he is theorized then yeah its great, i guess im just worried that this archetype has a low rate of success. Im getting Adreian Payne flashbacks lol. You're right as far as rarity though, i just looked through the last 10 drafts and found less than 20 1st rounders that even had a similar profile in size/strengths combination. So maybe its just small sample. Like I said, I'll be pulling for him.

Yeah, after getting Ayton, before thinking about playing a wing at the 4, I looked across the league looking for an Ibaka type...a guy who can block shots and hit 3s. There are not many. Maxi Kleber was one of the only ones.

This guy is a great finisher too. He has a 7'2 wingspan.

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[AtheJ415]

Memphis taking all the guys who are consensus picks at positions we needed and are rebuilding YEARS quicker than it took us.

Well, they lucked out in getting the #2 pick...jumped us..we would have taken Ja. Other than that they've drafted 3 PFs in the last 3 years. I did like JJJ and obviously Clarke though, especially at 21...a lot of other teams passed on Clarke though.

This regimes worst pick is Jerome.

Of course the pick that set us back the most by not taking the alternative many here wanted, was Ayton over Doncic. Jackson over Fox and Isaac were bad too, as was Bender over Murray or Hield...or trading Bogdan, 13 and 28 for Chriss..could have taken LeVert, Dejounte Murray and kept Bogdan instead of trading for Chriss.

It's been a HELL of a lot worse. Kendall Marshall?

You sure seem pissed off for a guy that has watched all this.

I expect us to act competently. Massive incompetence in the past is not an excuse to accept minor incompetence now. The asset management is still bottom 5 in the league if I'm being generous. That should concern the hell out of everybody, and I'm sick of watching casual fans who had no idea who the pick was and/or didn't want him before the draft, suddenly excusing it and all else based on bad logic. There are a ton of guys who could have helped us in this draft. It is deep. We need depth. And we locked in at $8 mil a year a guy who was at best questionable to go where he did, and we have no assets to jump in to get at 30+ a bunch of guys we had valued as acceptable around 10th. But our poor management for the past 2 years has prevented that. And everyone excuses it.

More than that, we can't really be hopeful going forward in a draft under Jones. Luka was the big miss, but can you say in a re-draft there is ANY chance Jones takes Luka? Jones wants heady defenders who can shoot the 3 and pass. Luka coming out could pass. He was a bad defender who couldn't shoot. No way Jones picks him. Shouldn't that type of tunnel vision when it comes to a draft, and the lack of urgency to get assets when available, concern every single fan here?

[Puff]

If there is a way to do it.

Sign and Trade Baynes for Bane.

Is it possible? The Celtics could use Baynes and we could use Bane. Other pieces may be involved but I think that would be great for both teams.

[Jesus_H_Macy]

This makes some sense. I definitely felt like the MLE money should go towards that 1/2 backup slot.

I just looked up Jalen Smith highlights and he looks good. Passes the eye test on O and looks like a good weakside shot blocker. Regular and advanced stats also look good for him. I couldn't find any clips of his defense though, aside from the blocks. I agree with what some others said that he looks like a 5, not a 4. I think we could still use him, and if Jones thought he was BPA then he probably did the right thing, but the parallel between picking Cam is very strong... I'm willing to give Jones the benefit of the doubt that it's a smarter pick than it looked, but we're picking a guy 10 spots earlier than he was projected again. If it turns out he can defend well out in space then I think he'll be really great for us. If not then it looks like he could still give us some nice bench minutes, but how many of those will we really need at 5 if Saric comes back and Ayton doesn't hit the juice again?

This guy is full of energy....he dunks hard and maybe that helps Ayton finish hard too...it also could help replace Oubre in some ways as the guy that gets people pumped up..he dunks hard. He blocks hard. He hits the 3. People liked Okongwu a lot but this guy is way more versatile.

He's not a bad player at all. Maryland was terrible whenever he was out. He can do most everything except dribble / playmake (which he is comically bad at, but that's okay). But I still won't defend the pick at the position he was selected with the guys on the table and the near 100% certainty that we could've traded back and still gotten him.

Thanks for the insight on his game. I don’t disagree with the the points you’ve been making about Jones asset management skills...it’s definitely a concern, though it sounds like some of the mocks had him close to our pick so maybe it wasn’t as much of a reach as Cam was. Jones has done enough to earn my trust in his player evaluations in the draft (I really like Cam, I give him credit for the Bridges pick since that was so un-McD-like, and I still think Jerome can have a good career), but these value margins he squanders in his picks and trades could add up over time. Perhaps they already are since Bane no whoever else are still available. Jones seems very adept at team building so I’m actually pretty confident he can make us a very good team, but I can’t think of any championship teams that don’t excel in those margins...at least none that don’t have a rich owner anyways. I suppose I’m so starved for quality Suns ball and so burned out from my movesraging from last summer that I don’t care as much a thing this point. I really hope Jones gets better with that stuff as time goes on though. If he does I think the Suns will have a lot of sustained success.

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Wow ... someone who wants to play defense to create offensive ... novel.

[TheLogician]

There are just not that many defensive PFs that can hit the 3. Is he not kind of like Ibaka? Ibaka went at 24 (actually one of the picks we traded to dump Kurt Thomas).

If he works out the way he is theorized then yeah its great, i guess im just worried that this archetype has a low rate of success. Im getting Adreian Payne flashbacks lol. You're right as far as rarity though, i just looked through the last 10 drafts and found less than 20 1st rounders that even had a similar profile in size/strengths combination. So maybe its just small sample. Like I said, I'll be pulling for him.

Yeah, after getting Ayton, before thinking about playing a wing at the 4, I looked across the league looking for an Ibaka type...a guy who can block shots and hit 3s. There are not many. Maxi Kleber was one of the only ones.

This guy is a great finisher too. He has a 7'2 wingspan.

Paul Reed comps are Kleber/Siakam...still available.

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[dremill24]

There are just not that many defensive PFs that can hit the 3. Is he not kind of like Ibaka? Ibaka went at 24 (actually one of the picks we traded to dump Kurt Thomas).

If he works out the way he is theorized then yeah its great, i guess im just worried that this archetype has a low rate of success. Im getting Adreian Payne flashbacks lol. You're right as far as rarity though, i just looked through the last 10 drafts and found less than 20 1st rounders that even had a similar profile in size/strengths combination. So maybe its just small sample. Like I said, I'll be pulling for him.

Yeah, after getting Ayton, before thinking about playing a wing at the 4, I looked across the league looking for an Ibaka type...a guy who can block shots and hit 3s. There are not many. Maxi Kleber was one of the only ones.

This guy is a great finisher too. He has a 7'2 wingspan.

Yeah ive always loved Maxi.

For me i think his defensive versatility will be a swing. If he can handle guarding on the perimeter reasonably well then i'll feel better about it.

I probly wouldnt have said anything if Vassell wasnt still on the board. He just seems like a sure thing on being a starting caliber wing. But of course now that ive posted that he will bust lol

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Huh i'm not sure that's so great for the mavs, Curry was a microwave off the bench. Was he a free agent?

[matt131]

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Dang she looks exactly like Doc

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Doc likes to have either a son or son-in-law on the teams he coaches.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

I'm getting a little anxious here! Why are we just sitting here? We're losing a ton of value by just sitting on our hands here!

Both Philly and Dallas making Big winning plays! This draft won't look nearly as good if we just sit around and be complacent here. We need further depth, And there's very minimal cost quality depth and upside prospects that can be had super cheap here!

[matt131]

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Sounds like a Monty and Jones kind of guy.

[AtheJ415]

Huh i'm not sure that's so great for the mavs, Curry was a microwave off the bench. Was he a free agent?

Nah Richardson is the better player.

[alamin330]

Dallas is gonna be really tough!

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Why? Cuz of Jrich? Seth worried me more with that lethal shot

[TheLogician]

Mavs win this draft