The 2020 NBA Draft

Ghost of Kleine · Post #661 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:09 am

Crives wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:Well sh*t!

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We must be getting another guard in FA or with Baynes S&T

I guess that's the risk with waiting and hoping a prospect that you like goes undrafted, just to save a fraction of an already minimal cost. :nonono:

Post #662 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:09 am

Funny, I had to go back to our discussion...ImNotMcDISwear called it....

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:This discussion is fun and all, but you're all talking about these players we're not going to draft. We're going to draft Jalen Smith. You can take that to the bank.

.... Unless we have the BALLS to draft Pokusevski, which is what we should do. I didn't realize this, but the league he's playing in is the same league Giannis played in the year before he was drafted. About the same age. Statistically, Poku last year bested Giannis's year in Olympiakos B across the board. We're talking points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, FT%, FG%, 3FG%. IMO, this kid shouldn't even be available where we pick. So while I'm betting we pass in order to draft the older and more physically-ready Smith, Poku's the guy I'd reach for.

Jalen Smith is very intriguing. Are you thinking to back up the 5 too? If they really like Saric and want to keep them, like Cam at the 4, and don't want to trade Oubre and plan on him starting at the 4 (most likely if they keep him), you really think Jalen is the pick? Or are you saying this under the assumption that we will move on from Oubre and/or Saric?

I see Smith rounding out our big man rotation with Ayton and Dario in time. Sure, I think we'll still play with one big a lot of the time, but we obviously dig bigs who can stretch the floor (Baynes, Kaminsky in theory), and that guy in this draft is Smith. He was the best player on a winning team in a good conference, he's young with lots of room for growth, and he seems like a high-character guy with a strong work ethic who knows how to play the right way, within a system.

I don't think you need to worry about finding minutes for him right away, so I don't have any worries about squeezing one of Dario or Oubre. Dario's a very different player, and no quality vet should fear some 20 YO rookie drafted at the back of the lotto taking his minutes. We could even keep Baynes. Let Jalen play understudy and earn his minutes.

The key difference between Jalen and a lot of the other very productive bigs in this class is how he scores. The other bigs rely on posting up and attacking the basket - plays that aren't featured a whole lot in the modern NBA. Jalen's go-to is the pick-and-pop. That's the role everyone wants their bigs to play in today's NBA, so I worry about his game translating a whole lot less than the other bigs. I just think he fits the Jones/Bower prototype of a player we can put to work in our system right away. You don't even have to change anything: just give him Frank's and Cheick's minutes and we'll be a better team. He'll give us the shooting we were hoping to get out of Frank (and Baynes: dude was streaky af and injured quite a lot this season), and to that he'll add rim protection and toughness on the interior.

It just makes too much sense to me. Jalen's one of a handful of players I can say for sure will be worth his rookie salary next season. As a bonus, we should be able to pair him with Ayton, which is just not something I can say for the rest of the guys we could pick to be Ayton's backup. So yeah, I'm pretty sure he's the pick.

As much as I'm sure we'll love Jalen, I think we'll regret passing on Poku. As I said, that kid should be off the board before we pick, though no one slots him that high. Poku's going to be the steal of the draft.

jredsaz · Post #663 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:09 am

phx#7 wrote:
jredsaz wrote:Literally took Jay Scrubb before Grant Riller. WTF am I missing?!

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Riller telling teams not to draft him so he can sign with the Suns!

YEEEEEESSSSSSSSS

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TheLogician · Post #664 » by **TheLogician** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:09 am

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YouTube · Post #665 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:10 am

Still surprised Reed is there and SUPER surprised about Tillie.

jredsaz · Post #666 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:10 am

Kerrsed wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:Well sh*t!

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Buy a pick Sarver!

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Its not worth it.

like $3M to buy the pick and then whatever the contact is. That $3M can be spent on an already experienced player, not an extreme gamble. We will wait to grab someone undrafted.

Not here. This is in the $1 million range.

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bigfoot · Post #667 » by **bigfoot** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:11 am

AtheJ415 wrote:This is the big thing that should concern everyone. This is an article quoting the Zach Lowe pieces about James Jones from a year ago. We have seen 0 evidence, and in fact accumulated much more evidence, that what he has said is more true than ever. I have no idea why more simply are okay with the smartest and nicest NBA writer having to state, "But incentivizing another team to take him in part because you screwed up your cap sheet is a disaster. It borders on malpractice.”

https://arizonasports.com/story/2106625/lowe-suns-win-more-now-positioned-beyond-2019-20/?show=comments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Lowe

So this high school teacher-become web blogger with no NBA playing or front office management experience is the ultimate authority on how the Suns managed their assets. He's just another talking head and probably hasn't watched but a few Suns games the last few years. He's a Celtics homer with a nice personality kinda like Stephen A Smith is a Knicks homer with a **** personality.

King4Day · Post #668 » by **King4Day** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:11 am

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YouTube · Post #669 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:12 am

Another bigtime shooter gone. GOK gonna be pissed!

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jredsaz · Post #670 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:12 am

Charlotte might be my new second favorite team with Riller and Graham

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TheLogician · Post #671 » by **TheLogician** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:12 am

bigfoot wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:This is the big thing that should concern everyone. This is an article quoting the Zach Lowe pieces about James Jones from a year ago. We have seen 0 evidence, and in fact accumulated much more evidence, that what he has said is more true than ever. I have no idea why more simply are okay with the smartest and nicest NBA writer having to state, "But incentivizing another team to take him in part because you screwed up your cap sheet is a disaster. It borders on malpractice.”

https://arizonasports.com/story/2106625/lowe-suns-win-more-now-positioned-beyond-2019-20/?show=comments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Lowe

So this high school teacher-become web blogger with no NBA playing or front office management experience is the ultimate authority on how the Suns managed their assets. He's just another talking head and probably hasn't watched but a few Suns games the last few years. He's a Celtics homer with a nice personality kinda like Stephen A Smith is a Knicks homer with a **** personality.

"MS in Journalism from Columbia School of Journalism"

Yeah, total amateur.

RedIndian · Post #672 » by **RedIndian** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:13 am

Tyshon Alexander is the one I hope we look at from the undrafted kids.

jredsaz · Post #673 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:13 am

bigfoot wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:This is the big thing that should concern everyone. This is an article quoting the Zach Lowe pieces about James Jones from a year ago. We have seen 0 evidence, and in fact accumulated much more evidence, that what he has said is more true than ever. I have no idea why more simply are okay with the smartest and nicest NBA writer having to state, "But incentivizing another team to take him in part because you screwed up your cap sheet is a disaster. It borders on malpractice.”

https://arizonasports.com/story/2106625/lowe-suns-win-more-now-positioned-beyond-2019-20/?show=comments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Lowe

So this high school teacher-become web blogger with no NBA playing or front office management experience is the ultimate authority on how the Suns managed their assets. He's just another talking head and probably hasn't watched but a few Suns games the last few years. He's a Celtics homer with a nice personality kinda like Stephen A Smith is a Knicks homer with a **** personality.

Thats some homer ****. Jones has mismanaged assets. Does not mean that he has done a poor job.

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Post #674 » by **ATTL** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:14 am

I see Smith more of a 4/5, I still see a pathway for reed as a 3/4 for depth

YouTube · Post #675 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:15 am

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YouTube · Post #676 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:15 am

Kerrsed wrote:

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I dont see Reeds name??

dremill24 · Post #677 » by **dremill24** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:16 am

On the "what a name!" topic...how bout Tres Tinkle lol

TheLogician · Post #678 » by **TheLogician** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:16 am

More names

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YouTube · Post #679 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:17 am

Well damn, i see Sixers nabbed him.

I guess take a shot on Tillie.

Post #680 » by **ATTL** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:17 am

Reed taken 58th, I think he will turn into a good player if he isnt a headcase.

Are you happy with the Jalen Smith pick?