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Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33

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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#981 » by dakomish23 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:56 am

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thebuzzardman wrote:Did the knicks address creativity and driving from pg or the wings? Real shooting depth? Did they really need a pf? Draft was mediocre


Knicks need everything except a rim running rim protecting C
And what did they get...lmao...I seriously sitting here dumbfounded.

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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#982 » by robillionaire » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:58 am

Toppin was national player of the year and Quickley was SEC player of the year (conference included Edwards, Okoro, Kira, Nesmith, Maxey). These aren't projects these are older rookies 21 and 22 y/o who will be able to contribute immediately. To me that hints at the direction they are going. I fully expect them to chase FVV or Westbrook and try to push for the playoffs
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#983 » by G_K_F » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:59 am

The Knicks are basically the Wilpon Mets with more money.

Dolan is completely incompetent in making any routine decisions regarding the team and either hires his friends/yes men or celebrities like Isiah and Phil Jackson to run the team.

The only respectable GM hired under his tenure (Walsh) was forced upon him by the commissioner (much like Anderson on the Wilpons) and then eventually left because he couldn’t deal with his meddling and douchebaggery.
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#984 » by Clyde Frazier » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:01 am

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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#985 » by bleedblue3303 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:01 am

I would love to see us sign and develop Karim Man'e. keeping reading amazing things about his work ethic. Would love him on the g league team this year.
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#986 » by cgmw » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:02 am

robillionaire wrote:Toppin was national player of the year and Quickley was SEC player of the year (conference included Edwards, Okoro, Kira, Nesmith, Maxey). These aren't projects these are older rookies 21 and 22 y/o who will be able to contribute immediately. To me that hints at the direction they are going. I fully expect them to chase FVV or Westbrook and try to push for the playoffs

Well duh.

I love how many posters here still don’t get it with Dolan.
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#987 » by El Poochio » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:02 am

robillionaire wrote:Toppin was national player of the year and Quickley was SEC player of the year (conference included Edwards, Okoro, Kira, Nesmith, Maxey). These aren't projects these are older rookies 21 and 22 y/o who will be able to contribute immediately. To me that hints at the direction they are going. I fully expect them to chase FVV or Westbrook and try to push for the playoffs


Then they will need to find some shooters asap
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#988 » by robillionaire » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:02 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:The Knicks are basically the Wilpon Mets with more money.

Dolan is completely incompetent in making any routine decisions regarding the team and either hires his friends/yes men or celebrities like Isiah and Phil Jackson to run the team.

The only respectable GM hired under his tenure (Walsh) was forced upon him by the commissioner (much like Anderson on the Wilpons) and then eventually left because he couldn’t deal with his meddling and douchebaggery.


You said you liked Toppin in the draft thread. They took toppin. They didn't trade the farm for lamelo. What did you want to happen?
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#989 » by El Poochio » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:03 am

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Why he wont see any light there Denver is too deep, Knicks could have used him though
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Post#990 » by sims » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:03 am

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Richard4444 wrote:We have to deal with the facts. They want vets.


seeing how they drafted a vet that would make sense


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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#991 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:04 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:The Knicks are basically the Wilpon Mets with more money.

Dolan is completely incompetent in making any routine decisions regarding the team and either hires his friends/yes men or celebrities like Isiah and Phil Jackson to run the team.

The only respectable GM hired under his tenure (Walsh) was forced upon him by the commissioner (much like Anderson on the Wilpons) and then eventually left because he couldn’t deal with his meddling and douchebaggery.


it's really embarrassing. I was willing to give Leon the benefit of the doubt but every step of the way it's been CAA or Kentucky.

objectivity is an important role in team-building and thus far he's not shown that

I don't even mind Obi or Quickley but I do question the fit w/ Obi and I thought Quickley could have been had later. I would have liked to take a shot on RJ Hampton who reminds me of Zach LaVine
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#992 » by El Poochio » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:04 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:The Knicks are basically the Wilpon Mets with more money.

Dolan is completely incompetent in making any routine decisions regarding the team and either hires his friends/yes men or celebrities like Isiah and Phil Jackson to run the team.

The only respectable GM hired under his tenure (Walsh) was forced upon him by the commissioner (much like Anderson on the Wilpons) and then eventually left because he couldn’t deal with his meddling and douchebaggery.


How are Rangers operate exactly like how we want Knicks to?
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#993 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:04 am

if they get Westbrook, spacing will be awful
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#994 » by Garbagelo » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:05 am

Since we didn't feel the need to draft a PG even though it was available at all 3 picks, it means they believe Frank Ntilikina should be the starter right? right?
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#995 » by Richard4444 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:06 am

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Richard4444 wrote:We have to deal with the facts. They want vets.


It was obvious when they hired Thibs

Can not wait until both Thibs and Rose are gone in 3 years


Right now, our roster is very problematic.

One could even say Frank, Dennis, Knox, Mitch, RJ and Iggy are technically rookies.

We dont know if Frank, Dennis, Knox, and Iggy can be rotation guys in a playoff contender. Now we also have Obi and Quicley.

We need vets. No more rookies. Maybe in the next years, when these players evolve or are fired, we can develop more rookies.
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#996 » by Oscirus » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:07 am

El Poochio wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:The Knicks are basically the Wilpon Mets with more money.

Dolan is completely incompetent in making any routine decisions regarding the team and either hires his friends/yes men or celebrities like Isiah and Phil Jackson to run the team.

The only respectable GM hired under his tenure (Walsh) was forced upon him by the commissioner (much like Anderson on the Wilpons) and then eventually left because he couldn’t deal with his meddling and douchebaggery.


How are Rangers operate exactly like how we want Knicks to?

Because dolan is hands off there.
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#997 » by DowNY » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:08 am

Look at the guards for the Pelicans. Bledsoe, Hill, Lonzo & Kira.

I think we can snatch Lonzo
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#998 » by Capn'O » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:08 am

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lcd88 wrote:i don't know is everybody so invested in that we need to draft a point guard that we aren't excited for Toppin?
I'm thrilled they took the best talent at 8. They need talent more than a PG right now. A PG would have been perfect if he was the best talent. But once Ball and Hayes were taken that option was done.

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Post#999 » by bleedblue3303 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:08 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:The Knicks are basically the Wilpon Mets with more money.

Dolan is completely incompetent in making any routine decisions regarding the team and either hires his friends/yes men or celebrities like Isiah and Phil Jackson to run the team.

The only respectable GM hired under his tenure (Walsh) was forced upon him by the commissioner (much like Anderson on the Wilpons) and then eventually left because he couldn’t deal with his meddling and douchebaggery.


it's really embarrassing. I was willing to give Leon the benefit of the doubt but every step of the way it's been CAA or Kentucky.

objectivity is an important role in team-building and thus far he's not shown that

I don't even mind Obi or Quickley but I do question the fit w/ Obi and I thought Quickley could have been had later. I would have liked to take a shot on RJ Hampton who reminds me of Zach LaVine


So your saying we should have the competitive advantage of having the head of the biggest agency in the world and the second coach on the biggest college program in the world and not use it? It doesn't make sense. I'm thrilled we went with CAA and Kentucky guys because we know more about them than any other team in the league.
I'm the first one to bash this team. But its enough, this time we used our connections to make informed decisions. I can live with that.

On a side note OBI is the best offensive player in the draft. He's on our team and a strong candidate for rookie of the year. We may not win much this year but its a great first step toward building a great young team.
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Re: Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33 

Post#1000 » by ABOVE_THE_RIM » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:09 am

The Knick draft trades didn’t make ANY sense. Should have just kept #23 and drafted Hampton. Hell even Tre Jones would have made more sense.

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