Draft Night Part Deux - Knicks with Picks 25 and 33

[Gravy]

What got lost in all this is, did the Atlanta Hawks guy get anything right? I can't remember if he had us linked to Obi or not.

[knickstape4ever]

So your saying we should have the competitive advantage of having the head of the biggest agency in the world and the second coach on the biggest college program in the world and not use it? It doesn't make sense. I'm thrilled we went with CAA and Kentucky guys because we know more about them than any other team in the league.
I'm the first one to bash this team. But its enough, this time we used our connections to make informed decisions. I can live with that.

On a side note OBI is the best offensive player in the draft. He's on our team and a strong candidate for rookie of the year. We may not win much this year but its a great first step toward building a great young team.

ok, but not all CAA players are great, same goes for Kentucky

it is important for FO's to be objective and take the best talent available. not the best talent available that's friends w/ my friend

I like Obi. I just think next to Mitch we need more of a stretch-4 so it'll be interesting to see if his volume improves. He definitely needs to improve his defense

and Quickley I like too; 1 of the 5 best shooters in the draft IMO and I thought there was a good chance we'd get him....in the 2nd round tho. it was a bit of a reach w/ better players available (and I'm counting RJ Hampton because we passed on him to pickup a 2023 2nd rounder....we could've used the pick)

What makes you think Obi wont be better than Mitch? What is the gurantee we are resigning Mitch for the type of money he will be requesting. Center is the most replaceable position in the NBA. That's why Utah isn't even sure what they will do with Rudy. This team needed talent. We took the best player available and quite possibly the best offensive player in the draft.

In regards to Quickley, I'll say it again. If it was just Kentucky than we would have taken Hagans at 33. They know more about the kid than anyone else in the league. What he's really capable of. Am I positive he can play the point for us. Of course not. But Kenny Payne knows what he can do and obviously its worth rolling those dice over a bunch of very late 1st round guys that most likely will not pan out.

This is all we need to know about Obi. I love him all ready!

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I didn't say Obi won't be better than Mitch. I just question the fit because both occupy the low post area and Obi played the 5 in college so he'd be moving to the 4 and there are questions of his defense. I like Obi, I think he'll be really good offensively, and at 8 I dont have a problem w/ the pick (tho it wasn't my 1st choice)

Quickley I like as well, but I think he could have been had in the 2nd round and we could have ended up w/ Obi, Bane, and Quickley which would be preferable

[DaGawd]

Since we didn't feel the need to draft a PG even though it was available at all 3 picks, it means they believe Frank Ntilikina should be the starter right? right?

Means we’re either trading or signing a more established one

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[YungKnicks]

Surprise Killian Tillie wasn't drafted... I think he's the best shooting big in the draft. 44% career from 3. Excellent passer also. I think he's a Gallo clone

[bleedblue3303]

ok, but not all CAA players are great, same goes for Kentucky

it is important for FO's to be objective and take the best talent available. not the best talent available that's friends w/ my friend

I like Obi. I just think next to Mitch we need more of a stretch-4 so it'll be interesting to see if his volume improves. He definitely needs to improve his defense

and Quickley I like too; 1 of the 5 best shooters in the draft IMO and I thought there was a good chance we'd get him....in the 2nd round tho. it was a bit of a reach w/ better players available (and I'm counting RJ Hampton because we passed on him to pickup a 2023 2nd rounder....we could've used the pick)

What makes you think Obi wont be better than Mitch? What is the gurantee we are resigning Mitch for the type of money he will be requesting. Center is the most replaceable position in the NBA. That's why Utah isn't even sure what they will do with Rudy. This team needed talent. We took the best player available and quite possibly the best offensive player in the draft.

In regards to Quickley, I'll say it again. If it was just Kentucky than we would have taken Hagans at 33. They know more about the kid than anyone else in the league. What he's really capable of. Am I positive he can play the point for us. Of course not. But Kenny Payne knows what he can do and obviously its worth rolling those dice over a bunch of very late 1st round guys that most likely will not pan out.

This is all we need to know about Obi. I love him all ready!

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I didn't say Obi won't be better than Mitch. I just question the fit because both occupy the low post area and Obi played the 5 in college so he'd be moving to the 4 and there are questions of his defense. I like Obi, I think he'll be really good offensively, and at 8 I dont have a problem w/ the pick (tho it wasn't my 1st choice)

Quickley I like as well, but I think he could have been had in the 2nd round and we could have ended up w/ Obi, Bane, and Quickley which would be preferable

So your problem is not with CAA/Kentucky connections. Your upset with missing out on Bane. I would have liked Bane as well. But I have to believe there is a reason the front office did what they did. This isn't Mills running the show anymore. I hope we stink this year and add a Cade Cunningham/Jalen Green. The old Knicks would have traded for Gallinari and Jrue Holiday. Fingers crossed no Russ and we finally build it the right way. Right now Mitch OBi and RJ in place add our 2 first rounders next year and we on to something.

[Polk377]

Since we didn't feel the need to draft a PG even though it was available at all 3 picks, it means they believe Frank Ntilikina should be the starter right? right?

Means we’re either trading or signing a more established one

There is a good chance that Payne and the Knicks see Quickley as a PG in the NBA. He was an All American playmaking PG in HS. Kentucky's log jam at the position really forced him off the ball.

[DaGawd]

Since we didn't feel the need to draft a PG even though it was available at all 3 picks, it means they believe Frank Ntilikina should be the starter right? right?

Means we’re either trading or signing a more established one

There is a good chance that Payne and the Knicks see Quickley as a PG in the NBA. He was an All American playmaking PG in HS. Kentucky's log jam at the position really forced him off the ball.

Wouldn’t be mad at seeing what he’s got. I just feel like we’re not done making moves and it seems the major trade or FA acquisition we’ll be making seems to be indicating at the pg position

[El Poochio]

Karim Mane, Tyshon Alexander, Myles Powell deciding to join forces in Knicks

[knickstape4ever]

What makes you think Obi wont be better than Mitch? What is the gurantee we are resigning Mitch for the type of money he will be requesting. Center is the most replaceable position in the NBA. That's why Utah isn't even sure what they will do with Rudy. This team needed talent. We took the best player available and quite possibly the best offensive player in the draft.

In regards to Quickley, I'll say it again. If it was just Kentucky than we would have taken Hagans at 33. They know more about the kid than anyone else in the league. What he's really capable of. Am I positive he can play the point for us. Of course not. But Kenny Payne knows what he can do and obviously its worth rolling those dice over a bunch of very late 1st round guys that most likely will not pan out.

This is all we need to know about Obi. I love him all ready!

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I didn't say Obi won't be better than Mitch. I just question the fit because both occupy the low post area and Obi played the 5 in college so he'd be moving to the 4 and there are questions of his defense. I like Obi, I think he'll be really good offensively, and at 8 I dont have a problem w/ the pick (tho it wasn't my 1st choice)

Quickley I like as well, but I think he could have been had in the 2nd round and we could have ended up w/ Obi, Bane, and Quickley which would be preferable

So your problem is not with CAA/Kentucky connections. Your upset with missing out on Bane. I would have liked Bane as well. But I have to believe there is a reason the front office did what they did. This isn't Mills running the show anymore. I hope we stink this year and add a Cade Cunningham/Jalen Green. The old Knicks would have traded for Gallinari and Jrue Holiday. Fingers crossed no Russ and we finally build it the right way. Right now Mitch OBi and RJ in place add our 2 first rounders next year and we on to something.

I'm upset by how they handled the 2nd pick. 1st missing out on Hampton who has considerable upside and was considered BPA at 23. then taking Quickley at 25 when they could have taken a higher rated player, like a Bane, because they likely could have gotten Quickley at 33 regardless

but I also don't like overall how dominated the FO, coaching, players have been dominated by CAA/Kentucky connections

[Polk377]

Means we’re either trading or signing a more established one

There is a good chance that Payne and the Knicks see Quickley as a PG in the NBA. He was an All American playmaking PG in HS. Kentucky's log jam at the position really forced him off the ball.

Wouldn’t be mad at seeing what he’s got. I just feel like we’re not done making moves and it seems the major trade or FA acquisition we’ll be making seems to be indicating at the pg position

I am not sure PG is actually a priority. It really depends on how the FO views Frank/DSJ and they didn't hisitate to bring in Jared Harper when he was released. They might bring in a vet as backup but I wouldn't bank on them throwing the bag at a FVV type.

[Oscirus]

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[bleedblue3303]

I didn't say Obi won't be better than Mitch. I just question the fit because both occupy the low post area and Obi played the 5 in college so he'd be moving to the 4 and there are questions of his defense. I like Obi, I think he'll be really good offensively, and at 8 I dont have a problem w/ the pick (tho it wasn't my 1st choice)

Quickley I like as well, but I think he could have been had in the 2nd round and we could have ended up w/ Obi, Bane, and Quickley which would be preferable

So your problem is not with CAA/Kentucky connections. Your upset with missing out on Bane. I would have liked Bane as well. But I have to believe there is a reason the front office did what they did. This isn't Mills running the show anymore. I hope we stink this year and add a Cade Cunningham/Jalen Green. The old Knicks would have traded for Gallinari and Jrue Holiday. Fingers crossed no Russ and we finally build it the right way. Right now Mitch OBi and RJ in place add our 2 first rounders next year and we on to something.

I'm upset by how they handled the 2nd pick. 1st missing out on Hampton who has considerable upside and was considered BPA at 23. then taking Quickley at 25 when they could have taken a higher rated player, like a Bane, because they likely could have gotten Quickley at 33 regardless

but I also don't like overall how dominated the FO, coaching, players have been dominated by CAA/Kentucky connections

Just playing devils advocate not arguing with you I promise. But is it possibly our Kentucky connections that let us know Quickley was not going to last to 33. So we had to make a hard decision and went with the guy we really wanted.

[HerSports85]

I’m in a bizzaro world. Everyone is bashing mgmt and I’m here praising their pick.

I must be missing something if so many of you are so sure about how bad a draft it was. Please share b/c I didn’t do much prep for this year

Our biggest need was guard so everyone studied up on guards and we went for the player we thought was BPA. Also, people are mad because both picks are CAA. Concerning, but Toppin was probably BPA with Hayes and Okoro off the board. Not much else to see imo.

Quickley Is Roc Nation

[Capn'O]

I'm not gonna lie - I was kinda hype for Bolmaro for the two seconds we had him.

[HerSports85]

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[bleedblue3303]

Josh Hall just signed with OKC. I would have liked for us to develop of him. Still holding out hope for Man'e

[Jeff Van Gully]

Surprise Killian Tillie wasn't drafted... I think he's the best shooting big in the draft. 44% career from 3. Excellent passer also. I think he's a Gallo clone

i'd sign him immediately

[aq_ua]

I'm not gonna lie - I was kinda hype for Bolmaro for the two seconds we had him.

Me too - big of you to admit it. I was ready to label him Alexey Shved 2.0 the moment he was traded though

[robillionaire]

So your problem is not with CAA/Kentucky connections. Your upset with missing out on Bane. I would have liked Bane as well. But I have to believe there is a reason the front office did what they did. This isn't Mills running the show anymore. I hope we stink this year and add a Cade Cunningham/Jalen Green. The old Knicks would have traded for Gallinari and Jrue Holiday. Fingers crossed no Russ and we finally build it the right way. Right now Mitch OBi and RJ in place add our 2 first rounders next year and we on to something.

I'm upset by how they handled the 2nd pick. 1st missing out on Hampton who has considerable upside and was considered BPA at 23. then taking Quickley at 25 when they could have taken a higher rated player, like a Bane, because they likely could have gotten Quickley at 33 regardless

but I also don't like overall how dominated the FO, coaching, players have been dominated by CAA/Kentucky connections

Just playing devils advocate not arguing with you I promise. But is it possibly our Kentucky connections that let us know Quickley was not going to last to 33. So we had to make a hard decision and went with the guy we really wanted.

Pretty good chance of that. He lit it up at the combine

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