Obi Toppin to the Knicks @ #8

[Triple C]

I want to see this in some occasion
Frank
Quickley
RJ
Obi
Mitch

[KnicksGadfly]

Hope this trade pans out. Looks to me the FO locked into their guys early. Toppin, Quickley. Guessing the other guy was Maxey.

[cgmw]

I loved the emotion in the post draft interview, but you know this means Haliburton turns into a first ballot HOFer.

[drj]

I want to see this in some occasion
Frank
Quickley
RJ
Obi
Mitch

I like the Quickley-Frank pairing on d -- I guess you use RJ as the main initiator here, with Q/F sharing secondary duties.
Actually if you sub in a 3-d vet at 4 this is a nicely balanced lineup overall...

[BugginOut]

If you haven't read the Player's Tribune Article on Toppin I definitely suggest you read it. Toppin did not have the normal NBA path. He has went through a huge transformation as a player. He wasn't ranked out of highschool, didn't even start dunking until his senior year and three years later he is the college AP player of the year.

He has his flaws, but I don't think just cause he is 22 he is done developing, he is like Mitch where he has a lot of potential to grow. People get caught up in players that already have complete games and for some reason think they are done developing and would rather take the young prospect they can "mold." Sh*t Damian Lillard was 22 coming into the NBA as well and look how that worked out for the Trailblazers. For once it will be nice to have a guy come in and be a beast day one instead drafting another kid that is "two years away from being two years away."

[Zenzibar]

I was a big Trae fan. but I'm concerned with Obi. I just looked at highlights for Obi's 3 biggest scoring games and It was all postups and lobs. He's not going to be able to use his size against bigger and stronger NBA bigs in the post. The three point shot looks good. But it seems like he doesn't face up and score and there were no pick and pop plays. I didnt see any catch and shooting off screens either.

I'm just wondering what his niche is going to be. we are probably going to run the pick and roll with Mitch and use Obi to stretch the floor on offense. Can Obi transform from a rim running/ postup player into a high volume stretch 4? I dunno because he didnt take that many 3's in college.

He was more versatile vs. good teams.

Watch on YouTube

small detail but watch the possession at 1:00

he takes initiative on defense off the secondary transition and directs his teammates.


also his form at the line looks fine. really reminiscent of Kenyon Martin/STAT power finishes near the rim.


NBA ready body. he's gonna have no problem banging down low on vets 5-10 years older than him. He's gonna produce right away.

Perhaps this is what Rose said that he wants bigs who can hit from the outside and Thibs said he wants to win right away.

[br7knicks]

Don't want to be overly optimistic.

But if reports are true, and obi is truly NBA readyish, I think he's going to gel well with the young roster.

He seems like the kind of scorer Frank and RJ need.

I don't know much about quickley, but I'm hoping he also comes out of the gates ready to play.

Frank
Quickley
Rj
Obi
Mitch


They might struggle, as young guys do. But that should be the lineup getting the bulk of the minutes.

Hopefully thibs holds them all accountable quickly, as well. Sit their asses down and hold a tight, short leash.

Having Dotson off the bench, and the big guy they drafted will help keep some of them grounded.

[Nazrmohamed]

lol.

his only legit weakness is defense, you just made a bunch of stuff up.

obi is already one of the top athletic bigs in the nba and that alone will give him an edge.

It really isn't his only weakness. He was spot on, except for the fact that he sortve rehashed a couple things. Id cut his list down to 5 but the flaws are major.

I actually think he does have some potential but not as a compliment. He only played 2 yrs and needs a ton of work. Everyone knows he can't defend so I won't keep reiterating it except to question why'd we do that with a defensive coach. Other things to consider

- he played C at Dayton. It was at that position that he dominated offensively and at that position he couldn't defend anyone....now we'll play him at PF and tell him to guard guys who 5 yrs so would've played SF. Good luck with that. I think this will be as successful as how we felt things would go when we put Amare next to Tyson. I thought we learned from that and those were vets who knew how to play.

-he really doesn't have any go to offensive moves. Hes purely a finisher or pick and pop specialist who needs his PG to deliver it perfectly or he can't put the ball on the floor, no counters. The few times he does operate its a straight line backdown when he has a size advantage

Go rewatch. Hes just got a very rudimentary game that simply appears to succeed because hes an older prospect, in a weak conference, playing smallball at a position he probably can't play in the nba. And even in saying succeed its on one side of the ball.

[br7knicks]

I loved the emotion in the post draft interview, but you know this means Haliburton turns into a first ballot HOFer.

I wanted halliburton over obi. I hope obi proves me wrong

[bigfnjoe96]

Da Garden gonna be LIT!

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[KnickLeDime]

I don't see "low" upside with Obi. Maybe because of his lack of defense or footspeed has people down. But him and Mitch should be able to fit like a glove with Obi spacing the floor. Grab a temporary guard for the year or just roll with who you have. Next year's guard prospects are FAR more appealing than this year's.

The problem with Obi's "low" upside is that it takes the entire team's upside down with him.

We've already been there and done that with these type of players and we ended up running those guys out of town with glee.

I'm about 75% sure we just wasted a lotto pick.

I just hope the front office realizes this sooner rather than later and can still salvage things.

Yep...I have zero confidence in this organization and last night the front office showed themselves to be completely clueless. Both Obi and Quickley will be wasted picks. Obi is a rim roller who can't guard a traffic cone...after sitting through decades of horrible drafts. I know how to spot a bust...

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[NewYorkPride85]

lol.

his only legit weakness is defense, you just made a bunch of stuff up.

obi is already one of the top athletic bigs in the nba and that alone will give him an edge.

It really isn't his only weakness. He was spot on, except for the fact that he sortve rehashed a couple things. Id cut his list down to 5 but the flaws are major.

I actually think he does have some potential but not as a compliment. He only played 2 yrs and needs a ton of work. Everyone knows he can't defend so I won't keep reiterating it except to question why'd we do that with a defensive coach. Other things to consider

- he played C at Dayton. It was at that position that he dominated offensively and at that position he couldn't defend anyone....now we'll play him at PF and tell him to guard guys who 5 yrs so would've played SF. Good luck with that. I think this will be as successful as how we felt things would go when we put Amare next to Tyson. I thought we learned from that and those were vets who knew how to play.

-he really doesn't have any go to offensive moves. Hes purely a finisher or pick and pop specialist who needs his PG to deliver it perfectly or he can't put the ball on the floor, no counters. The few times he does operate its a straight line backdown when he has a size advantage

Go rewatch. Hes just got a very rudimentary game that simply appears to succeed because hes an older prospect, in a weak conference, playing smallball at a position he probably can't play in the nba. And even in saying succeed its on one side of the ball.

Can you let him play a damn game? Like damn. Talking about getting your panties in a bunch. Just let him play and THEN bash him if he doesn't play up to expectations. This is just like a damn child who didn't get what he wanted and throw a damn tantrum. You do realize he's going to be playing under Thibs and Payne right? That alone will do wonders for him. I didn't even want him but I sure as hell won't bash a kid before he can step a foot on an NBA court.

[WargamesX]

All I am going to say is if he doesn’t become at least a decent defender ..... this is a bad pick. I am going to hold Thibs and Leon accountable for that.

If he can be a good defender then he is a cornerstone.

[WargamesX]

lol.

his only legit weakness is defense, you just made a bunch of stuff up.

obi is already one of the top athletic bigs in the nba and that alone will give him an edge.

It really isn't his only weakness. He was spot on, except for the fact that he sortve rehashed a couple things. Id cut his list down to 5 but the flaws are major.

I actually think he does have some potential but not as a compliment. He only played 2 yrs and needs a ton of work. Everyone knows he can't defend so I won't keep reiterating it except to question why'd we do that with a defensive coach. Other things to consider

- he played C at Dayton. It was at that position that he dominated offensively and at that position he couldn't defend anyone....now we'll play him at PF and tell him to guard guys who 5 yrs so would've played SF. Good luck with that. I think this will be as successful as how we felt things would go when we put Amare next to Tyson. I thought we learned from that and those were vets who knew how to play.

-he really doesn't have any go to offensive moves. Hes purely a finisher or pick and pop specialist who needs his PG to deliver it perfectly or he can't put the ball on the floor, no counters. The few times he does operate its a straight line backdown when he has a size advantage

Go rewatch. Hes just got a very rudimentary game that simply appears to succeed because hes an older prospect, in a weak conference, playing smallball at a position he probably can't play in the nba. And even in saying succeed its on one side of the ball.

Can you let him play a damn game? Like damn. Talking about getting your panties in a bunch. Just let him play and THEN bash him if he doesn't play up to expectations. This is just like a damn child who didn't get what he wanted and throw a damn tantrum. You do realize he's going to be playing under Thibs and Payne right? That alone will do wonders for him. I didn't even want him but I sure as hell won't bash a kid before he can step a foot on an NBA court.

Bro ..... you acting real defensive of a player who is flawed. He is flawed.... you acting like you know the kid or are an employee of MSG/CAA

[NYKAL]

For the FIRST time ever, the Knicks got the guy I had as the best player in the draft. NBA ready non project ready to contribute from day 1...hell yes

[god shammgod]

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[bigfnjoe96]

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C'mon Shams...

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[EMG518]

Detroit had the draft I wanted. Hayes and Stewart.

[NewYorkPride85]

It really isn't his only weakness. He was spot on, except for the fact that he sortve rehashed a couple things. Id cut his list down to 5 but the flaws are major.

I actually think he does have some potential but not as a compliment. He only played 2 yrs and needs a ton of work. Everyone knows he can't defend so I won't keep reiterating it except to question why'd we do that with a defensive coach. Other things to consider

- he played C at Dayton. It was at that position that he dominated offensively and at that position he couldn't defend anyone....now we'll play him at PF and tell him to guard guys who 5 yrs so would've played SF. Good luck with that. I think this will be as successful as how we felt things would go when we put Amare next to Tyson. I thought we learned from that and those were vets who knew how to play.

-he really doesn't have any go to offensive moves. Hes purely a finisher or pick and pop specialist who needs his PG to deliver it perfectly or he can't put the ball on the floor, no counters. The few times he does operate its a straight line backdown when he has a size advantage

Go rewatch. Hes just got a very rudimentary game that simply appears to succeed because hes an older prospect, in a weak conference, playing smallball at a position he probably can't play in the nba. And even in saying succeed its on one side of the ball.

Can you let him play a damn game? Like damn. Talking about getting your panties in a bunch. Just let him play and THEN bash him if he doesn't play up to expectations. This is just like a damn child who didn't get what he wanted and throw a damn tantrum. You do realize he's going to be playing under Thibs and Payne right? That alone will do wonders for him. I didn't even want him but I sure as hell won't bash a kid before he can step a foot on an NBA court.

Bro ..... you acting real defensive of a player who is flawed. He is flawed.... you acting like you know the kid or are an employee of MSG/CAA

No but I do believe in allowing someone to prove themselves before passing judgement. Apparently, you have all the answers and can see into the future. Surprised as all hell that you haven't won the lotto yet. There have been plenty of players that everyone projected as projects and having flaws that came into the league and took over. Just use Donavan Mitchell as a case study (Perrin pushed hard to land this kid). Everyone thought he needed time to develop and BOOM he came in and took over. All I'm saying is give the kid a damn chance.

[thebuzzardman]

So, I was willing to give the FO time to assess their ability.

So far, they seem kind of mediocre.

Whoever Detroit hired, however, seem to know what they are doing.