Grade the draft

[JMAC3]

B. We could've traded back with Detroit. The interest was there and the guys we wanted hung around at 7.

The second round picks were smart.

We didn't do anything stupid though so that's enough for a B tbh

The guys we wanted? I don't know if that is true.

Onyeka went 6th.

Also if Detroit got to three they were taking Pat Williams, so Chicago might have gone with Deni or Haliburton.

Who are these guys we wanted that were there at 7?

Hayes, Halli, Deni were all there.

I don't think I saw a single report that Hornets were interested in any of those prospects, obviously the board would of potentially ran out differently as well so it is hard to say who would have been there.

[DY_nasty]

The guys we wanted? I don't know if that is true.

Onyeka went 6th.

Also if Detroit got to three they were taking Pat Williams, so Chicago might have gone with Deni or Haliburton.

Who are these guys we wanted that were there at 7?

Hayes, Halli, Deni were all there.

I don't think I saw a single report that Hornets were interested in any of those prospects, obviously the board would of potentially ran out differently as well so it is hard to say who would have been there.

we were scouting deni and vassell back when we didn't even anticipate to be picking at 3. hayes worked out with us as well - we posted a whole video here not too long ago lol

i'm not gonna pretend like it didn't happen to get some +1s man. i'm just saying that, cool, we took the guy that fell to us and made some nice second round picks. we didn't do anything stellar to increase the value of any of our positions really. so cool, b rating.

edit: hell, we were tied to deni going back to 2019 due to basketball without borders

[UNCNYC]

I rated it a B.

3 - Terry - I would have traded for a future 1st.

32- Tyler Bey - I ended up drafting Bey at 32

56 - Isaiah Joe (I would have settled for either Reggie Perry or Paul Reed instead that went after at 56)

Overall it was hard to mess up this draft imo due to it's depth. So I think we did a decent job.

So to recap:

At three you are taking a guy who went 31st?

At 32 you draft a guy that went 36- seems reasonable

But at 56 you would of drafted a guy who went 49th? Can you teach Mitch this one. Impressive.

At 3 yes I am 100 percent sure I want Tyrell Terry with a future 1st round PICK thrown in which would almost be guaranteed to me given he went 31st overall.

at 32 I wanted Tyler Bey at the last minute

at 56 I wanted Isaiah Joe but he did not fall here. I will put him down on record as to who I coveted during the draft process. I would hope you'd give me the benefit of the doubt for Joe at least considering I would not be able to obtain my future 1st rounder (something I believe I would have been guaranteed to obtain for a player that went 31st overall) and for a player who I did covet (ty'shon alexander) who didn't get drafted who I think has more potential than edwards.

Isaiah Joe went 49th so the fact I can't obtain my future 1st rounder on a 31st pick I think asking for a player that was drafted at 49 when we had pick 56 is a decent compensation.

If you are forcing me to choose lol. I will choose between Reggie Perry and Paul Reed since they were both drafted over riller at 56.

So since you want to study me so hard (btw I have no IDEA who you chose outside of pick 3) and take away Joe please remember that I did want Terry and a future 1st.

So it would be

3 - Tyrell Terry and a future 1st
32 - Tyler Bey
56 - Paul Reed

and if Terry does pan out you seem to be an I told you so type so please remember I did want a future 1st along with Terry
I can live with that

[JMAC3]

Hayes, Halli, Deni were all there.

I don't think I saw a single report that Hornets were interested in any of those prospects, obviously the board would of potentially ran out differently as well so it is hard to say who would have been there.

we were scouting deni and vassell back when we didn't even anticipate to be picking at 3. hayes worked out with us as well - we posted a whole video here not too long ago lol

i'm not gonna pretend like it didn't happen to get some +1s man. i'm just saying that, cool, we took the guy that fell to us and made some nice second round picks. we didn't do anything stellar to increase the value of any of our positions really. so cool, b rating.

edit: hell, we were tied to deni going back to 2019 due to basketball without borders

I thought I saw that we just interviewed Hayes, I don't believe he actually worked out for the team. Could be wrong tho.

[wilson115]

A. Swung for the fences with Lamelo. Drafted one big for his production and another for his measurables. Not too worried about Nick with his old pal PJ around. Grant Riller is going to surprise people.

The guy is 2 years older than Monk, so yes, he better surprise everyone. When i see Tillie undrafted and immediately signing with Memphis (some B. Clarke connexion obviously) even if Tillman was their pick, i am not so confident with what Kupchak has done.

I see your point but Monk's looking to get paid this year. That and Graham's extension, Mitch has priorities to juggle. Not a bad look to keep our options open instead of doing a Cho and handing out double-figure contracts when we don't have a core settled.

[BigSlam]

B

Didn’t do anything silly like give up assets to move up which was great - but I think we were left with the worst prospect at #3 and that prospects picked after Ball will have much, much better careers.

Great value picks in the 2nd round saved this draft from being a total bust - especially Carey Jr.


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You could be right, but many many high level talent evaluators had Ball is their number 1 player in the draft.

Hard to say Edwards or Wiseman are set to have better careers. Think both landed in kinda meh situations...

Edwards will be third Banana behind Russell and Towns and nobody on their team plays any defense. Also, they have a billion guards after trading for Rubio, getting the Argentinian guy, Culver is there, Okogie is there and also they have restricted free agent Malik Beasley.

Wiseman ends up going to a team where he will probably shoot the ball 6 times a game. I am sure he will put up good advanced metrics for rebounding, defense and efficiency though so that is solid. Just not sure Warriors are going to be motivated to putting him in a role where he can take the necessary growth steps.

TBH I don’t and won’t compare Ball’s success to Edwards and Wiseman - because they were off the board when we selected so weren’t an option for us - and I am a billion percent happier that we have Ball than how I would have felt if we’d given up assets to move up to #1 or #2. So I’ll never hold it agains our FO or Ball if Edwards and/or Wiseman have better careers than Ball.

The dudes I’ll be looking at are Okongwu and Haliburton etc.

Side note: You could very easily say that Ball has landed in a much more meh situation than the other two. Drafted to a team that already has two established point guards and not the right pieces around Ball to be successful.


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[JMAC3]

(btw I have no IDEA who you chose outside of pick 3)

I did not do a ton of research on second round, but surprisingly I was super high on Richards and was targeting him at 56, so I am glad we landed him by trading up.

For 32 I was hoping for Azubuike, Tillman, Oturu, Jahmius Ramsey, Bane or Nwora. So Carey was not super high on my list, but overall I am happy with the pick because as you can see I was targeting a big in this range. Him being the youngest big man in this range probably gives him one of the highest upsides.

I know people were high on Riller for a lot of reasons, so I have no issues with the pick. In reality if one of these three second rounders ends up a rotation player we did just fine and if one blossoms into a starter then we killed it.

[MPM]

B. We took who fell to us from the 'top 3' which is a solid B move and I don't mind bust-or-boom moves these days even if I personally lean more bust on 'Melo. Don't mind Carey but having a defensive Swiss army knife and passer in Tillman on the board when he was chosen kind of stung. Hope Carey surprises as he has game - even if it's an early naughts game. Didn't know anything about Richards or Riller, but love what I've read on Riller since. We definitely netted some talent overall even if the wart-removal process looks significant - think Kupchak and crew did a decent job here.

[Chapelchilla]

A-, B+
Carey was a steal who will be a NBA starter eventually. Much more intimidating then anyone we have had in the paint for years. Nick, I like the potential. Riller could be a role player. And last but not least, Ball. I think we had to take him there and IF he works on his D and can play in a team framework, his playmaking and his undeniable IT factor are both things we have been sorely lacking for years.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Getting the best player in the draft at 3 is absolutely an A+ move.

Carey is solid but uninspiring, drop it to an A.

Richards is kinda wtf but we need a center that can play sooner then later, down to an A-.

Riller at 56?? Alright back to an A.

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