Bulls draft Marko Simonovic at #44

kodo · Post #61 » by **kodo** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:44 pm

I like this pick quite a bit. Reminds me of our other gambles in the 2nd round like Niko & Omer.

PlayerUp · Post #62 » by **PlayerUp** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:02 pm

Good news?
International bigman taken in the 2nd Round typically contribute in the NBA and are at least useful role players.

Bad news?
They typically don't last long and retire before age 30.

Mbrahv0528 · Post #63 » by **Mbrahv0528** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:24 pm

Peelboy wrote:Meh. Given the Bulls current state, I would have preferred to get a high-potential developmental guy to stash in the G-League. Someone like a Bol Bol. This guy seems like a Kornet at best, and I have my doubts about whether he ever even comes over. Might as well have sold the pick or traded for a future pick.....

Saving grace: FA pickup of Devon Dotson. In my mind, I'm flipping them to draft Dotson #44 and pick up Simonovic in FA. That feels a lot better.

Seems like Kornet because he's Caucasian? Oh boy.

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imagge · Post #64 » by **imagge** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:11 pm

PlayerUp wrote:Good news?
International bigman taken in the 2nd Round typically contribute in the NBA and are at least useful role players.

Bad news?
They typically don't last long and retire before age 30.

It's because they are really 40 not 30

Andi Obst · Post #65 » by **Andi Obst** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:05 pm

Definitely wanted Riller or Mays here, but the Dotson pickup makes up for that.

I know nothing about Simonovic. Thanks for sharing all the scouting vids, guys.

Ugly Duckling · Post #66 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:34 pm

BahamaBull wrote:
BigUps wrote:Our Joker will arrive in a year.

perfect!!

we just got Torrey Craig with our #4 pick...Whos our jamal murray?

That's so love bro

RememberLu · Post #67 » by **RememberLu** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:23 pm

Soon as I saw his tape I said "Luke Kornet replacement."

chicago paxsons · Post #68 » by **chicago paxsons** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:41 pm

RememberLu wrote:Soon as I saw his tape I said "Luke Kornet replacement."

To me he looks more offensively versatile than kornet. He also seems to be a much better rebounder.

Post #69 » by **dougthonus** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:46 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:The tweet about him not joining us next season (clearly, as he is like a stash player), but the part of him possibly not EVER coming over, is a little concerning.

I don't think that's all that concerning given who was on the board. Fair chance that no one drafted after is any good ever either. If he ends up being good enough to make an NBA roster at real money, he'll probably come for that real money eventually.

Post #70 » by **dougthonus** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:47 pm

Watching the video, someone needs to teach him not to bring the ball down while gathering for his shot, would probably cut his release speed by about 40%.

sco · Post #71 » by **sco** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:54 pm

dougthonus wrote:Watching the video, someone needs to teach him not to bring the ball down while gathering for his shot, would probably cut his release speed by about 40%.

Saw that too. I like his speed and coordination for his size. Nice low risk/high reward pick.

Post #72 » by **dougthonus** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:14 pm

sco wrote:
dougthonus wrote:Watching the video, someone needs to teach him not to bring the ball down while gathering for his shot, would probably cut his release speed by about 40%.

Saw that too. I like his speed and coordination for his size. Nice low risk/high reward pick.

It's tricky to learn not to bring the ball down, its very natural because you gather more momentum from doing so and get more strength into your shot, but its the first big change you typically make to go from a slow release to fast release player. Patrick Williams does the same thing.

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #73 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:46 am

DJhitek wrote:As a second rounder, I’m just glad they picked A player.

Just think how good that $3M cash could have looked in Jerry's bank account though. Smh.

Brothaman33 · Post #74 » by **Brothaman33** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:51 am

Don't know if he'll ever come over but...his feet are not too bad, can move fairly decent for 6'11.

But the shot starts at his waistline and takes a few months to come up and release. Hopefully we get to see him at some point.

Red8911 · Post #75 » by **Red8911** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:29 am

PlayerUp wrote:Good news?
International bigman taken in the 2nd Round typically contribute in the NBA and are at least useful role players.

Bad news?
They typically don't last long and retire before age 30.

Without looking anything up Jokic and Marc Gasol were both second round picks when drafted.I’m sure there’s more too so what your saying is false.

SHO'NUFF · Post #76 » by **SHO'NUFF** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:17 am

Chicago Bulls Second Round picks in the last 20 years:

Marko Simonovic
Daniel Gafford
Jordan Bell (traded)
Paul Zipser
Cameron Bairstow
Erik Murphy
Malcolm Lee (traded)
Ömer Aşık (traded to Bulls)
Sonny Weems (traded)
Aaron Gray
James OnCurry
Jackson Vroman (traded)
Chris Duhon
Mario Austin (Played overseas instead)
Matt Bonner (traded)
Tommy Smith (Played overseas instead)
Roger Mason
Lonnie Baxter
Trenton Hassell
Sean Lampley (traded)
A.J. Guyton
Jake Voskuhl
Khalid El-Amin

They really don’t last long.....at all...

Bullflip · Post #77 » by **Bullflip** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:22 am

SHO'NUFF wrote:Chicago Bulls Second Round picks in the last 20 years:

Marko Simonovic
Daniel Gafford
Jordan Bell (traded)
Paul Zipser
Cameron Bairstow
Erik Murphy
Malcolm Lee (traded)
Sonny Weems (traded)
Aaron Gray
James OnCurry
Jackson Vroman (traded)
Chris Duhon
Mario Austin (Played overseas instead)
Matt Bonner (traded)
Tommy Smith (Played overseas instead)
Roger Mason
Lonnie Baxter
Trenton Hassell
Sean Lampley (traded)
A.J. Guyton
Jake Voskuhl
Khalid El-Amin

They really don’t last long.....at all...

Yea out of all of those picks, only Chris Duhon was a good enough role player. The jury is still out on Gafford.

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #78 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:23 am

Bullflip wrote:
SHO'NUFF wrote:Chicago Bulls Second Round picks in the last 20 years:

Marko Simonovic
Daniel Gafford
Jordan Bell (traded)
Paul Zipser
Cameron Bairstow
Erik Murphy
Malcolm Lee (traded)
Sonny Weems (traded)
Aaron Gray
James OnCurry
Jackson Vroman (traded)
Chris Duhon
Mario Austin (Played overseas instead)
Matt Bonner (traded)
Tommy Smith (Played overseas instead)
Roger Mason
Lonnie Baxter
Trenton Hassell
Sean Lampley (traded)
A.J. Guyton
Jake Voskuhl
Khalid El-Amin

They really don’t last long.....at all...

Yea out of all of those picks, only Chris Duhon was a good enough role player. The jury is still out on Gafford.

Granted, the Bulls didn't benefit from it, but Hassell and Mason both had nice lengthy careers as role players.

PlayerUp · Post #79 » by **PlayerUp** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:50 am

Red8911 wrote:
PlayerUp wrote:Good news?
International bigman taken in the 2nd Round typically contribute in the NBA and are at least useful role players.

Bad news?
They typically don't last long and retire before age 30.

Without looking anything up Jokic and Marc Gasol were both second round picks when drafted.I’m sure there’s more too so what your saying is false.

I said typically, not all the time.

PlayerUp · Post #80 » by **PlayerUp** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:57 am

Bullflip wrote:
SHO'NUFF wrote:Chicago Bulls Second Round picks in the last 20 years:

Marko Simonovic
Daniel Gafford
Jordan Bell (traded)
Paul Zipser
Cameron Bairstow
Erik Murphy
Malcolm Lee (traded)
Sonny Weems (traded)
Aaron Gray
James OnCurry
Jackson Vroman (traded)
Chris Duhon
Mario Austin (Played overseas instead)
Matt Bonner (traded)
Tommy Smith (Played overseas instead)
Roger Mason
Lonnie Baxter
Trenton Hassell
Sean Lampley (traded)
A.J. Guyton
Jake Voskuhl
Khalid El-Amin

They really don’t last long.....at all...

Yea out of all of those picks, only Chris Duhon was a good enough role player. The jury is still out on Gafford.

I mean every draft there are a ton of solid 2nd Rd picks. Gar/Pax just didn't know what they were doing in the 2nd Rd. They often targeted prospects in the 2nd Rd by "need" not by talent. AK picking an international bigman is quite smart. Those usually net you the highest success rate of finding a quality role player at the next level.

Also you're missing Omer Asik from that list.