Trade Discussion 22/23

[ACMFFL]

I don't think we can get Gallo. S&T only works with 3 or 4 years contract, and that would blow out our hopes for the 2021 FA, unless someone takes Powell, but even in that case because of the salary cap's drop we wouldn't have the space to sign a big FA (Giannis, Gobert, Dipo, etc)

[arkuo]

The Mavs are in a tough spot. They stick with a Curry-Doncic backcourt, they will get toasted in the playoffs by Kawhi or Lebron. You need more bodies that are 6'6 to 6'8 to throw at Lebron, Kawhi, PG in the playoffs. if you only have DFS and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist guarding those, then you're not getting far.

With the Curry trade, you get two more bodies and 12 more fouls to give between Richardson and Bey. Both 6'6 and 6'7 respectively.

I don't mind trading for Jrich, don't get me wrong, i like him BUT for Curry? I wish they could have made it work with another player. Someone like Wright who is literally one of the most expendable guys on this team, just simply doesn't fit as we thought he would.

I think Wright is getting traded this weekend in a package deal (or 3 team deal) for Gallinari.


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i would surely hope so. If all else fails, they can send Wright to New York for Taj Gibson's expiring contract. That team has like 7 power forwards and still drafted Obi Toppin. They need guards.

[Archx]

I don't think we can get Gallo. S&T only works with 3 or 4 years contract, and that would blow out our hopes for the 2021 FA, unless someone takes Powell, but even in that case because of the salary cap's drop we wouldn't have the space to sign a big FA (Giannis, Gobert, Dipo, etc)

Reading between the lines from what Townsend is saying, Mavs are targeting Ibaka or Grant. I would be happy with either one of them.

[ACMFFL]

I don't think we can get Gallo. S&T only works with 3 or 4 years contract, and that would blow out our hopes for the 2021 FA, unless someone takes Powell, but even in that case because of the salary cap's drop we wouldn't have the space to sign a big FA (Giannis, Gobert, Dipo, etc)

Reading between the lines from what Townsend is saying, Mavs are targeting Ibaka or Grant. I would be happy with either one of them.

Grant is my favorite one, he fits very well in our system and timeline. But at least I agree with your last sentence, Ibaka would be a really nice and solid sign too.

[Apz]

This was no normal draft. Saying that 2nd rounders wont make it doesnt really make sense for once. No basketball at that age from like march to december, much can have happenedd both with bodies and skill and noone can be sure where players actually stand. Much comes down to how much of hard workers they are and how much work they put in in the downtime. Think thats why many teams wanted extra 2nds.

Not sure it matters, need to be polished or rick will have them out of dallas before next transfer window

[JJP]

So from the above....

Grant is not looking to play for the MLE and definitely wants a longer contract
Ibaka is not looking to play for the MLE - but might if conditions are such this season

It's hard to know who the Mavs are targeting in FA with the MLE. I agree Gallinaro is difficult for lots of salary reasons. Someone like Milsap or Justin Holiday makes more sense. If you're trying to trade Wright, well who knows where this team will go since that has nothing to do with the MLE. Really, this is all speculation since the Mavs never show their hand. But I think it's safe to assume there's much more likely to happen.

[arkuo]

Delon Wright + DFS + Future 1st and Future 2nd for Gallo S&T. Maybe that can do it.

[Mr B]

So from the above....

Grant is not looking to play for the MLE and definitely wants a longer contract
Ibaka is not looking to play for the MLE - but might if conditions are such this season

It's hard to know who the Mavs are targeting in FA with the MLE. I agree Gallinaro is difficult for lots of salary reasons. Someone like Milsap or Justin Holiday makes more sense. If you're trying to trade Wright, well who knows where this team will go since that has nothing to do with the MLE. Really, this is all speculation since the Mavs never show their hand. But I think it's safe to assume there's much more likely to happen.

Montrez Harrell maybe? Jae Crowder?


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[arkuo]

Here's a rather crazy idea. Since Klay Thompson will be out for the whole season.

Dallas sends THJ to GSW
GSW sends $17M trade exception to OKC
OKC S&T Gallinari for 17M to Dallas

The appealing thing for GSW is they get a SG for one year only because THJ is an expiring contract. Trade exception expires November 23 so they dont have a lot of time to play around.

[dirkforpres]

Delon Wright + DFS + Future 1st and Future 2nd for Gallo S&T. Maybe that can do it.

Seems like a massive overpay. Gallinari is older and more expensive than DFS and the production difference wouldnt be enough to justify throwing in picks as well.

I don’t see a pathway for bringing in Gallinari, and that’s ok. I don’t think he’s worth overpaying for anymore, given his age and health history

[arkuo]

Delon Wright + DFS + Future 1st and Future 2nd for Gallo S&T. Maybe that can do it.

Seems like a massive overpay. Gallinari is older and more expensive than DFS and the production difference wouldnt be enough to justify throwing in picks as well.

I don’t see a pathway for bringing in Gallinari, and that’s ok. I don’t think he’s worth overpaying for anymore, given his age and health history

I think Cuban will go all in on this. Gallinari can be an expiring contract in 2021. That means THJ, Richardson and Gallinari can all be free agents next season. You can a good PF now and cap room the following year. That's a win-win scenario. Essentially converting Delon Wright into an expiring deal while filling the starting PF slot.

[ACMFFL]

Delon Wright + DFS + Future 1st and Future 2nd for Gallo S&T. Maybe that can do it.

Seems like an overpaid tbh, I would not trade DFS for Danilo.

[arkuo]

Delon Wright + DFS + Future 1st and Future 2nd for Gallo S&T. Maybe that can do it.

Seems like an overpaid tbh, I would not trade DFS for Danilo.

Josh Green, Tyler Bey and Josh Richardson can all replace DFS's production. DFS only averages 9 points per game playing heavy minutes and is already 27. I would like to think there is not much upside there. And like Curry he can be a trade chip if Dallas sells high.

Gallo averages 18 per game. That's 18ppg. You're adding an 18 ppg scorer to an already potent offense. I'd like to think that's an upgrade.

[JJP]

Jae Crowder sounds at least reasonable, but I expect him to have an offer from Miami. Besides he may be somewhat redundant now after the draft.

We may need to lower our expectations. There's not a lot out on the market in the way of known commodities. I still think we need a rebounding athletic type but I'm not sure who that is.

Gallinaro is possible only if Gallinaro really wants to be here.

[JD45]

Here's a rather crazy idea. Since Klay Thompson will be out for the whole season.

Dallas sends THJ to GSW
GSW sends $17M trade exception to OKC
OKC S&T Gallinari for 17M to Dallas

The appealing thing for GSW is they get a SG for one year only because THJ is an expiring contract. Trade exception expires November 23 so they dont have a lot of time to play around.

I like the idea as long as Gallianri is willing to not have guarantee beyond the first year. This would give the Mavs continued salary cap flexibility next year.

[dirkforpres]

Here's a rather crazy idea. Since Klay Thompson will be out for the whole season.

Dallas sends THJ to GSW
GSW sends $17M trade exception to OKC
OKC S&T Gallinari for 17M to Dallas

The appealing thing for GSW is they get a SG for one year only because THJ is an expiring contract. Trade exception expires November 23 so they dont have a lot of time to play around.

Not a bad idea. Golden State could sell it easily to their fan base too since it would somewhat pay homage to the Run TMC era. OKC probably needs more incentive though than a trade exception. Maybe a second rounder from both DAL and GS gets it there

[Heezzi]

The mavs now have a glut of 6'5-6'6 guards on the roster in THJ, Richardaon, Green and Wright. They also haven't really adressed this team's greatest need, and that's big wing defenders. Unless they are sure Bey is the answer, which I doubt, seeing as he's a second round rookie. Considering Luka is the playmaker, they can play two of those guards with him, but who will then guard the LBJs and the Kawhis. Also, with WCS optung out, they will need another big. Hopefully, additional trades/signings are incoming...

We needed to draft Saddiq Bey. Now we have no 3pt shooters with Curry trade, and two Wright type players.

Yea they do. THJ, Richardson, Luka, KP, Terry are all very capable 3 point shooters.


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"Capable" from 3.
Past season
THJ 39.8%
Richardson 34.1%
Luka 31.6%
KP 35.2%
Terry ??

[JJP]

"Capable" from 3.
Past season
THJ 39.8%
Richardson 34.1%
Luka 31.6%
KP 35.2%
Terry ??

Richardson was 34% last season after an injury and playing for a new team. He was 36-37% at Miami. Terry shoots 41%
Yes, these are all "capable" 3-point shooters.

Curry has an elite skill, but can't be played in certain situations. Richardson is a better overall player than Curry. The +/- of the two players in the same game will favor Richardson.

[basketballRob]

Delon and JJ for Fournier. A report just came out that Evan wants to be moved.

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[dirkules_41]

Delon and JJ for Fournier. A report just came out that Evan wants to be moved.

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Done.