The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall.

[transplant]

When I heard they picked Williams, my first thought was that it sure as hell wasn't designed to be a fan pleaser. From what I've read in this thread, I was right...most fans are kinda underwhelmed. My first reaction was that it sucks having the 4th player in a 3-player draft, but then I heard AK say that he never really pursued moving up and loved Williams at 4. OK, AK is all in on Williams. If Paxson had made this pick, I have to believe that the fan reaction would have been even more negative.

Let's face it, AK gets his "honeymoon" period. He will get criticized by some, but most fans are giving him the benefit of the doubt. Obviously, how Williams develops will become a touchstone of how we judge him, but he's going to make a lot of other moves to build his team. I confess that the Williams pick has me scratching my head a bit, but for the next year or so, I'm going to stay with the "In Arturas I trust" mode. I'm not expecting perfection, but I do expect to see a plan coming together.

Oddly enough, if paxson had made the pick, i don't doubt it would have been deni or haliburton and we might have a more happy thread than we do. I understand going with the safe pick, but i'm not against drafting for potential even if it means picking someone who would have been drafted 4 or 5 picks later. Drafting a player near where they were going to be drafted is important for value's sake, but so is getting the guy you want.

AK made it very clear that he got his guy...no equivocation. He clearly said that he didn't really pursue trading up. He was happy with the 4th pick and who he got. Honestly, I can't ever recall a management group more committed to a first round pick.

[SfBull]

Tyrus Thomas all over again

No way.

[SfBull]

Peeps need to chill.

Williams will get to play and contribute immediately.

At 19? As a bench warmer in college? Naw, don’t talk yourself into it, he’s a nobody with no experience. First year, here he’ll just sit on the bench behind Otto Porter and provide nothing.

We don't even know if OPJ will stay with the Bulls until the end of the season.People are really negative about this pick.I watched some of Florida State's games and liked him even playing limited time.This guy can really be good.

[chicago paxsons]

When I heard they picked Williams, my first thought was that it sure as hell wasn't designed to be a fan pleaser. From what I've read in this thread, I was right...most fans are kinda underwhelmed. My first reaction was that it sucks having the 4th player in a 3-player draft, but then I heard AK say that he never really pursued moving up and loved Williams at 4. OK, AK is all in on Williams. If Paxson had made this pick, I have to believe that the fan reaction would have been even more negative.

Let's face it, AK gets his "honeymoon" period. He will get criticized by some, but most fans are giving him the benefit of the doubt. Obviously, how Williams develops will become a touchstone of how we judge him, but he's going to make a lot of other moves to build his team. I confess that the Williams pick has me scratching my head a bit, but for the next year or so, I'm going to stay with the "In Arturas I trust" mode. I'm not expecting perfection, but I do expect to see a plan coming together.

Oddly enough, if paxson had made the pick, i don't doubt it would have been deni or haliburton and we might have a more happy thread than we do. I understand going with the safe pick, but i'm not against drafting for potential even if it means picking someone who would have been drafted 4 or 5 picks later. Drafting a player near where they were going to be drafted is important for value's sake, but so is getting the guy you want.

AK made it very clear that he got his guy...no equivocation. He clearly said that he didn't really pursue trading up. He was happy with the 4th pick and who he got. Honestly, I can't ever recall a management group more committed to a first round pick.

I'm glad he got his guy. The fact that ak picked a high character, high work ethic, high iq defense player with offensive potential is exciting to me. It's just nice to see our front office be gung ho about a player with potential, instead of how garpax would be all in on a player who is good, but has pretty much reached his potential.

[cjbulls]

Tyrus Thomas all over again

No way.

Tyrus biggest problem was between his ears. With a different mentality and those skills and athleticism he could have been a very good player.

Patrick Williams doesn’t seem to have those concerns

[cjbulls]

This must have been what the Cavs board sounded like the day after they drafted Anthony Bennet.

[CjayC]

First worst decision by our new front office. I am super pissed.

I was hoping to trade up but worst case pick 1 of Deni/Obi/etc. Why are we picking another Chandler Hutchinson? Especially this high.
Mind blown.

He can be much better than Hutch,who is projected to be a useful backup at SF.

I'd be surprised if Hutch gets a 2nd contract anywhere than become a useful backup. The skill looks much underdeveloped for someone his age, and injury problems on top of that.

[DASMACKDOWN]

If things work out, MJ I am sure will get asked "Do you regret passing up the hometown kid in Patrick Williams."

[BullsFTW]

After watching more videos, so far I really like his pull-up and mid range game. Also his handles are better than advertised. He looks fluid in P&R situations and has a smooth shooting stroke. Definitely will make an impact defensively right away.

He hasn’t played an actual game in eight months, so I’m really curious how much work he has put in.

[jordanwilliams6]

Oddly enough, if paxson had made the pick, i don't doubt it would have been deni or haliburton and we might have a more happy thread than we do. I understand going with the safe pick, but i'm not against drafting for potential even if it means picking someone who would have been drafted 4 or 5 picks later. Drafting a player near where they were going to be drafted is important for value's sake, but so is getting the guy you want.

AK made it very clear that he got his guy...no equivocation. He clearly said that he didn't really pursue trading up. He was happy with the 4th pick and who he got. Honestly, I can't ever recall a management group more committed to a first round pick.

I'm glad he got his guy. The fact that ak picked a high character, high work ethic, high iq defense player with offensive potential is exciting to me. It's just nice to see our front office be gung ho about a player with potential, instead of how garpax would be all in on a player who is good, but has pretty much reached his potential.

It's also not like there was a clear choice at 4 as another option. If you asked 5 people who weren't happy with the pick who we should've taken, you would probably get 5 different names.

AK made it very clear that this is the guy we wanted the entire time. The research conducted by the FO on Williams would probably be more than any other pick we've ever taken in history, given the extra few months we had and the likelihood that the top 3 would end up in those positions.

[kulaz3000]

After watching more videos, so far I really like his pull-up and mid range game. Also his handles are better than advertised. He looks fluid in P&R situations and has a smooth shooting stroke. Definitely will make an impact defensively right away.

He hasn’t played an actual game in eight months, so I’m really curious how much work he has put in.

To me this seems to be the key as to how he has vaulted up in the draft.

I read that the Spurs were eyeing him for a long time, but as his draft stock rose, he went out of their draft range. But I'm guessing this kid has put in the work during his time off and has been impressive teams quite a bit, especially the Bulls, and clearly the Pistons which if true, wanted to leapfrog to 3 to draft him!

[Ugly Duckling]

Williams isn't that bad of a pick.

Still think he's a tier below Okongwu as a prospect.

I was thinking the same thing, but I have faith in AK, so let's see

[atlantabbq99]

It's a weird pick by the Bulls, but to be honest, Patrick Williams does remind me of Larry Johnson, so here is hoping he can develop into something close to the L-Train

As a freshman, LJ averaged 20 and 11 on 62% FG with 1.6 steals and 1.4 blocks for #1 team in the country, who went on to win the title that year.

Wrong...

JL was 21yr old when he transferred to a D1 school, UNLV, and average 20 and 11.

Pat Williams was 18yr old when he started his D1 career at Florida State.

[cjbulls]

It's a weird pick by the Bulls, but to be honest, Patrick Williams does remind me of Larry Johnson, so here is hoping he can develop into something close to the L-Train

As a freshman, LJ averaged 20 and 11 on 62% FG with 1.6 steals and 1.4 blocks for #1 team in the country, who went on to win the title that year.

Wrong...

JL was 21yr old when he transferred to a D1 school, UNLV, and average 20 and 11.

Pat Williams was 18yr old when he started his D1 career at Florida State.

And made no impact.

[cjbulls]

Oddly enough, if paxson had made the pick, i don't doubt it would have been deni or haliburton and we might have a more happy thread than we do. I understand going with the safe pick, but i'm not against drafting for potential even if it means picking someone who would have been drafted 4 or 5 picks later. Drafting a player near where they were going to be drafted is important for value's sake, but so is getting the guy you want.

AK made it very clear that he got his guy...no equivocation. He clearly said that he didn't really pursue trading up. He was happy with the 4th pick and who he got. Honestly, I can't ever recall a management group more committed to a first round pick.

I'm glad he got his guy. The fact that ak picked a high character, high work ethic, high iq defense player with offensive potential is exciting to me. It's just nice to see our front office be gung ho about a player with potential, instead of how garpax would be all in on a player who is good, but has pretty much reached his potential.

The bolded is what GarPax got ripped for, even though they had a successful overall drafting track record.

[atlantabbq99]

Millsap is nº24 here

Watch on YouTube

Watch him blow by people and rise

Then go watch PatWill

I feel like this video supports pat more. Pat seems the quicker more powerful leaper and much bigger at that age. Plus he isnt playing against high school level competition.

Seriously, absolutely nothing about this tape suggests Millsap is a superior athlete. I would say PWill is a better athlete from watching this tape. " Watch him blow by people and rise" uhhh, where? I watched the entire tape and all of his shots come from catching in the paint. And he got blocked a bunch of times in the video.

From somebody who watched Millsap during his prime, I can say that Sap is not athletic, but is very very strong, solid, extremely high IQ, with elite guard skills for a guy his size in his position.

Sap didn't have a lighting first step or 40 vert, but his ball handling, slashing, mid range, over all jump shot is on par with elite Shooting Guards. He was basically like a 6'8, 270, Manu.

[cjbulls]

I remember when Ryan Pace “got his guy”

[dc]

Tyrus biggest problem was between his ears. With a different mentality and those skills and athleticism he could have been a very good player.

IIRC (I'm not a Bulls fan), TT also had some knee issues and he was a guy heavily reliant on his athleticism. I thought he looked pretty good his 1st couple years in the league.

[atlantabbq99]

As a freshman, LJ averaged 20 and 11 on 62% FG with 1.6 steals and 1.4 blocks for #1 team in the country, who went on to win the title that year.

Wrong...

JL was 21yr old when he transferred to a D1 school, UNLV, and average 20 and 11.

Pat Williams was 18yr old when he started his D1 career at Florida State.

And made no impact.

So was Al Horford in Florida.

[Clint Eastwood]

As a freshman, LJ averaged 20 and 11 on 62% FG with 1.6 steals and 1.4 blocks for #1 team in the country, who went on to win the title that year.

Wrong...

JL was 21yr old when he transferred to a D1 school, UNLV, and average 20 and 11.

Pat Williams was 18yr old when he started his D1 career at Florida State.

And made no impact.

Pat made no impact? Great argument.