Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

[Negrodamus]

Just like Harden has interest in playing with his initial 3 amigos (Westbrook in Hou, Durant in BKN), maybe Embiid has interest in getting his buds back together (Noel and Okafor).

[the_process]

JaMychal Green would work here.

I wonder who is going to pay Hayward? He must have a really good idea he can get one more payday or he wouldn't have opted out. Didn't he already turn down ATL? It would be hysterical if he went to the Knicks.

[agiaco]

I like the idea of Noel or Baynes as backup 5. Pelle was fun to watch but not a loss by any stretch of the imagination. They'll upgrade over him easily.

[TTP]

Ilyasova is definitely an option. Would have to take MLE and there will be other teams after him. Offering him decent minutes at 4/5 could help their case

Eh not really he was unplayable in the playoffs last season for Milwaukee and only averaged 15 mpg in regular season for them. He seemed pretty cooked and his age is usually assumed to be older then the reported 33.
I don’t see how offering him 5 million is a good use of assets in any way.

yup, I don't even think that he is worth the vet min, morey can do better than that.

He's for sure worth the vet min. IDK what quality of player people expect when they offer a min deal.

[Arsenal]

JaMychal Green would work here.

I wonder who is going to pay Hayward? He must have a really good idea he can get one more payday or he wouldn't have opted out. Didn't he already turn down ATL? It would be hysterical if he went to the Knicks.

As long as he walks and leaves the Celtics with NADA, I'm happy to see him on the Knicks, Hawks, or whoever.

Can Knicks sign Hayward then still trade for Westbrook?

PG Westbrook
SG Barrett
SF Hayward
PF Toppin
CE Robinson

Could be decent. Enough to make the playoffs at least.

[Stanford]

Maybe OKC will buy out Horford so he can sign here to back up Jo

[ProcessDoctor]

If I had to predict our 9-man rotation today:


Simmons(20)/Milton(28)
Curry(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Green(24)/Thybulle(24)
Harris(34)/Simmons(14)
Embiid(30)/Noel(18)


Simmons/Milton/Maxey
Curry/Korkmaz/Smith/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Ferguson
Harris/Scott
Embiid/Noel/Reed


I can see Scott getting dumped and replaced with a vet min guy (presumably a combo forward?) The fit is great, but the lack of shot-creation worries me. Assuming full health, I imagine we'll have a very good regular-season record.

[Embiid-MVP]

Maybe OKC will buy out Horford so he can sign here to back up Jo

Lol! Only reason this would be cool is to see his family on Twitter retract all their comments

[Ferry Avenue]

If I had to predict our 9-man rotation today:


Simmons(20)/Milton(28)
Curry(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Green(24)/Thybulle(24)
Harris(34)/Simmons(14)
Embiid(30)/Noel(18)


Simmons/Milton/Maxey
Curry/Korkmaz/Smith/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Ferguson
Harris/Scott
Embiid/Noel/Reed


I can see Scott getting dumped and replaced with a vet min guy (presumably a combo forward?) The fit is great, but the lack of shot-creation worries me. Assuming full health, I imagine we'll have a very good regular-season record.

That doesn't impress me at all.

The problem with this team is that they're continuing to build around two players who haven't, and perhaps can't, show the maturity and leadership necessary to be players a team builds around.

Simmons and Embiid. Yeah that sounds great in theory or on paper, but these guys haven't been players a team builds around if it hopes to win a championship. If you're putting accessory pieces like Green and Curry around a nucleus of star players, those star players better have what it takes, because the accessory pieces sure don't.

The team screwed up when it let Butler go. He was the piece to build around. Imagine a starting lineup of Embiid, Harris, Butler, Redick, and Westbrook. That's a championship lineup. Simmons should've been jettisoned that year in favor of Butler.

[6ers83]

I love Pelle. That sucks

Likable guy but a foul machine

[BullyKing]

If I had to predict our 9-man rotation today:


Simmons(20)/Milton(28)
Curry(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Green(24)/Thybulle(24)
Harris(34)/Simmons(14)
Embiid(30)/Noel(18)


Simmons/Milton/Maxey
Curry/Korkmaz/Smith/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Ferguson
Harris/Scott
Embiid/Noel/Reed


I can see Scott getting dumped and replaced with a vet min guy (presumably a combo forward?) The fit is great, but the lack of shot-creation worries me. Assuming full health, I imagine we'll have a very good regular-season record.

That doesn't impress me at all.

The problem with this team is that they're continuing to build around two players who haven't, and perhaps can't, show the maturity and leadership necessary to be players a team builds around.

Simmons and Embiid. Yeah that sounds great in theory or on paper, but these guys haven't been players a team builds around if it hopes to win a championship. If you're putting accessory pieces like Green and Curry around a nucleus of star players, those star players better have what it takes, because the accessory pieces sure don't.

The team screwed up when it let Butler go. He was the piece to build around. Imagine a starting lineup of Embiid, Harris, Butler, Redick, and Westbrook. That's a championship lineup. Simmons should've been jettisoned that year in favor of Butler.

Reading this post was a real emotional rollercoaster for me.

1. Lineup of this team is not impressive - ok, I with. Nodding in agreement.
2. Then some stuff about leadership that I think is nonsense because its really just another way of saying they haven't won a championship yet. But harmless nonetheless.
3. Trading Simmons for Westbrook - and the nodding turns to violent headshakes.

[ProcessDoctor]

I wish there was an avenue to acquiring Beal without giving up Ben or Jo. It's going to be extremely difficult to acquire a 3rd star. Maybe if Tobias increases his value we can dangle him? Wishful thinking, I know.

[Ferry Avenue]

If I had to predict our 9-man rotation today:


Simmons(20)/Milton(28)
Curry(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Green(24)/Thybulle(24)
Harris(34)/Simmons(14)
Embiid(30)/Noel(18)


Simmons/Milton/Maxey
Curry/Korkmaz/Smith/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Ferguson
Harris/Scott
Embiid/Noel/Reed


I can see Scott getting dumped and replaced with a vet min guy (presumably a combo forward?) The fit is great, but the lack of shot-creation worries me. Assuming full health, I imagine we'll have a very good regular-season record.

That doesn't impress me at all.

The problem with this team is that they're continuing to build around two players who haven't, and perhaps can't, show the maturity and leadership necessary to be players a team builds around.

Simmons and Embiid. Yeah that sounds great in theory or on paper, but these guys haven't been players a team builds around if it hopes to win a championship. If you're putting accessory pieces like Green and Curry around a nucleus of star players, those star players better have what it takes, because the accessory pieces sure don't.

The team screwed up when it let Butler go. He was the piece to build around. Imagine a starting lineup of Embiid, Harris, Butler, Redick, and Westbrook. That's a championship lineup. Simmons should've been jettisoned that year in favor of Butler.

Reading this post was a real emotional rollercoaster for me.

1. Lineup of this team is not impressive - ok, I with. Nodding in agreement.
2. Then some stuff about leadership that I think is nonsense because its really just another way of saying they haven't won a championship yet. But harmless nonetheless.
3. Trading Simmons for Westbrook - and the nodding turns to violent headshakes.

No it's not a way of saying they haven't won a championship. Jimmy Butler hasn't won a championship either, but he displays maturity and leadership. Simmons and Embiid don't. There are plenty of players who haven't won championships who display maturity and leadership. Jayson Tatum is another.

And I didn't say anything about trading Simmons for Westbrook. The proposed lineup was only an example of one constructed around maturity and leadership. Westbrook is another who exudes those qualities. Redick is another.

[Arsenal]

I wish there was an avenue to acquiring Beal without giving up Ben or Jo. It's going to be extremely difficult to acquire a 3rd star. Maybe if Tobias increases his value we can dangle him? Wishful thinking, I know.

Our best hope for a 3rd real star is to pump and dump on Tobias. That means spamming Tobi pick and rolls nonstop to inflate his numbers, something Doc knows exactly how to do.

[the_process]

That doesn't impress me at all.

The problem with this team is that they're continuing to build around two players who haven't, and perhaps can't, show the maturity and leadership necessary to be players a team builds around.

Simmons and Embiid. Yeah that sounds great in theory or on paper, but these guys haven't been players a team builds around if it hopes to win a championship. If you're putting accessory pieces like Green and Curry around a nucleus of star players, those star players better have what it takes, because the accessory pieces sure don't.

The team screwed up when it let Butler go. He was the piece to build around. Imagine a starting lineup of Embiid, Harris, Butler, Redick, and Westbrook. That's a championship lineup. Simmons should've been jettisoned that year in favor of Butler.

Reading this post was a real emotional rollercoaster for me.

1. Lineup of this team is not impressive - ok, I with. Nodding in agreement.
2. Then some stuff about leadership that I think is nonsense because its really just another way of saying they haven't won a championship yet. But harmless nonetheless.
3. Trading Simmons for Westbrook - and the nodding turns to violent headshakes.

No it's not a way of saying they haven't won a championship. Jimmy Butler hasn't won a championship either, but he displays maturity and leadership. Simmons and Embiid don't. There are plenty of players who haven't won championships who display maturity and leadership. Jayson Tatum is another.

And I didn't say anything about trading Simmons for Westbrook. The proposed lineup was only an example of one constructed around maturity and leadership. Westbrook is another who exudes those qualities. Redick is another.

Westbrook doesn't "exude leadership qualities". He exudes ball hogging and stat padding. He is known for his rebound stealing and shot spamming.

[Sixerscan]

If I had to predict our 9-man rotation today:


Simmons(20)/Milton(28)
Curry(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Green(24)/Thybulle(24)
Harris(34)/Simmons(14)
Embiid(30)/Noel(18)


Simmons/Milton/Maxey
Curry/Korkmaz/Smith/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Ferguson
Harris/Scott
Embiid/Noel/Reed


I can see Scott getting dumped and replaced with a vet min guy (presumably a combo forward?) The fit is great, but the lack of shot-creation worries me. Assuming full health, I imagine we'll have a very good regular-season record.

That doesn't impress me at all.

The problem with this team is that they're continuing to build around two players who haven't, and perhaps can't, show the maturity and leadership necessary to be players a team builds around.

Simmons and Embiid. Yeah that sounds great in theory or on paper, but these guys haven't been players a team builds around if it hopes to win a championship. If you're putting accessory pieces like Green and Curry around a nucleus of star players, those star players better have what it takes, because the accessory pieces sure don't.

The team screwed up when it let Butler go. He was the piece to build around. Imagine a starting lineup of Embiid, Harris, Butler, Redick, and Westbrook. That's a championship lineup. Simmons should've been jettisoned that year in favor of Butler.

Yeah no ****. It's gonna take Morey time to turn things around, if you want to wait until he does feel free. If you want to trade Simmons you should be happy they're putting guys around him that maximize his effectiveness, if nothing else it's good for his trade value.

[ProcessDoctor]

I wish there was an avenue to acquiring Beal without giving up Ben or Jo. It's going to be extremely difficult to acquire a 3rd star. Maybe if Tobias increases his value we can dangle him? Wishful thinking, I know.

Our best hope for a 3rd real star is to pump and dump on Tobias. That means spamming Tobi pick and rolls nonstop to inflate his numbers, something Doc knows exactly how to do.

We could try. Maybe at the deadline something like Harris/Curry/Smith/pick for LaVine/Porter?

[the_process]

I wish there was an avenue to acquiring Beal without giving up Ben or Jo. It's going to be extremely difficult to acquire a 3rd star. Maybe if Tobias increases his value we can dangle him? Wishful thinking, I know.

Our best hope for a 3rd real star is to pump and dump on Tobias. That means spamming Tobi pick and rolls nonstop to inflate his numbers, something Doc knows exactly how to do.

And if Glenn and Morey can call in every favor ever owed to them and get Tobias on the All-Star team... that would help immensely.

[Ferry Avenue]

Reading this post was a real emotional rollercoaster for me.

1. Lineup of this team is not impressive - ok, I with. Nodding in agreement.
2. Then some stuff about leadership that I think is nonsense because its really just another way of saying they haven't won a championship yet. But harmless nonetheless.
3. Trading Simmons for Westbrook - and the nodding turns to violent headshakes.

No it's not a way of saying they haven't won a championship. Jimmy Butler hasn't won a championship either, but he displays maturity and leadership. Simmons and Embiid don't. There are plenty of players who haven't won championships who display maturity and leadership. Jayson Tatum is another.

And I didn't say anything about trading Simmons for Westbrook. The proposed lineup was only an example of one constructed around maturity and leadership. Westbrook is another who exudes those qualities. Redick is another.

Westbrook doesn't "exude leadership qualities". He exudes ball hogging and stat padding. He is known for his rebound stealing and shot spamming.

I'll take Westbrook with the clock running down in the fourth quarter anyday.

[Arsenal]

I wish there was an avenue to acquiring Beal without giving up Ben or Jo. It's going to be extremely difficult to acquire a 3rd star. Maybe if Tobias increases his value we can dangle him? Wishful thinking, I know.

Our best hope for a 3rd real star is to pump and dump on Tobias. That means spamming Tobi pick and rolls nonstop to inflate his numbers, something Doc knows exactly how to do.

And if Glenn and Morey can call in every favor ever owed to them and get Tobias on the All-Star team... that would help immensely.

Seriously it should be our goal to get Tobi to the all-star team. It can be done if they just inflate his usage.

That's the best thing we can do to increase asset/trade value on the team.