The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall.

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Summarizing one man’s outlook on this week. Deni would make me a lot more comfortable with the current team. And probably as our pick. Even if the current team is dismantling. His negatives were overemphasized, almost as if people did not want to believe what they were watching. That being said, I fully expect AK to be making big lineup changes, and he sees P Will as a more rare (physical) piece to build around. Not that Deni would be a bad defender, but AK must be putting a premium on finding the cornerstones of his future defense. We should give him some elbow room, because a demo is probably coming. My 3 guys in this draft were Deni, Okongwu, and Williams. Glad to get one of them. Speaking of OO, Atlanta is looking like a force going forward.

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Side note, the Jimmy Butler comparisons for Williams have got to be a stretch. Even Kendall Gill was doing it. Just because Jimmy relentlessly grew his body and game from scratch to become a 25 PER player, does not mean everyone can do it, even if blessed physically. Jimmy Butler’s best attribute is his unstoppable drive, a mindset scarcely seen. There is no replacement for that. Honestly I don’t see that kind of dog yet in Williams, even as we have heard of him being a hard worker. None of us knows him, but he seems like a normal hard worker, not a maniac psycho with off the charts confidence like Jimmy Butler.

[thedarkstark]

Summarizing one man’s outlook on this week. Deni would make me a lot more comfortable with the current team. And probably as our pick. Even if the current team is dismantling. His negatives were overemphasized, almost as if people did not want to believe what they were watching. That being said, I fully expect AK to be making big lineup changes, and he sees P Will as a more rare (physical) piece to build around. Not that Deni would be a bad defender, but AK must be putting a premium on finding the cornerstones of his future defense. We should give him some elbow room, because a demo is probably coming. My 3 guys in this draft were Deni, Okongwu, and Williams. Glad to get one of them. Speaking of OO, Atlanta is looking like a force going forward.

I don't remember who but one of these "draft experts" on the radio said a lot of people who played with/against Deni said there's no way he was going be an NBA star. Not sure of the validity but it seems like an odd thing to make up and if true that's pretty damning IMHO. If your peers/contemporaries don't think much of you it tells me all I need to know.

I liked Okongwu I think he probably has one of the highest floors in the top 7 picks. I really wanted Hayes if we stayed put or traded back.

I don't hate the Patrick Williams pick as much as I did yesterday but that's mainly just because there's so little I know about him, there's not much footage of him but nothing jumps out at me. I see potential but he has a really long way to go, he's going to need have a Butler-esque drive/work ethic in order to become something special.

[kulaz3000]

Side note, the Jimmy Butler comparisons for Williams have got to be a stretch. Even Kendall Gill was doing it. Just because Jimmy relentlessly grew his body and game from scratch to become a 25 PER player, does not mean everyone can do it, even if blessed physically. Jimmy Butler’s best attribute is his unstoppable drive, a mindset scarcely seen. There is no replacement for that. Honestly I don’t see that kind of dog yet in Williams, even as we have heard of him being a hard worker. None of us knows him, but he seems like a normal hard worker, not a maniac psycho with off the charts confidence like Jimmy Butler.

Another thing to add is that Jimmy had great veterans, especially Lou who mentored him to become a hardworking professional. People forget, Jimmy his first few years barely said a word. He just worked on his game, followed the veterans lead, and played his part.

Who is going to mentor these young players on our roster, that's the missing piece I think. Yeah, we have Thad, but I'm not sure he is the right guy. People think spending roster spots on veterans is a waste, but every great player always talks about the importance of having great veterans early on in their careers, it's an undervalued aspect for the development of a young prospect.

[ImSlower]

Williams is going to continue to be a tough sell, I think for those skeptical of the pick. Kornisovas seems absolutely set on the kid, so I am envisioning a real pillar of our team in a few years. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't put up a typical #4 pick's amount of minutes this year. His youth is a good thing, but we might not see this kid as a starter for a year or two.

Or what the hell do I know. I hope he comes out absolutely blasting on defense, and we can't keep him off the court.

[thedarkstark]

Side note, the Jimmy Butler comparisons for Williams have got to be a stretch. Even Kendall Gill was doing it. Just because Jimmy relentlessly grew his body and game from scratch to become a 25 PER player, does not mean everyone can do it, even if blessed physically. Jimmy Butler’s best attribute is his unstoppable drive, a mindset scarcely seen. There is no replacement for that. Honestly I don’t see that kind of dog yet in Williams, even as we have heard of him being a hard worker. None of us knows him, but he seems like a normal hard worker, not a maniac psycho with off the charts confidence like Jimmy Butler.

Another thing to add is that Jimmy had great veterans, especially Lou who mentored him to become a hardworking professional. People forget, Jimmy his first few years barely said a word. He just worked on his game, followed the veterans lead, and played his part.

Who is going to mentor these young players on our roster, that's the missing piece I think. Yeah, we have Thad, but I'm not sure he is the right guy. People think spending roster spots on veterans is a waste, but every great player always talks about the importance of having great veterans early on in their careers, it's an undervalued aspect for the development of a young prospect.

I agree, I had said if we took Melo we needed to sign somebody like Iguodala to mentor him. I have similar sentiments about Williams and White, they seem like good kids but WCJ can't be the lead by example guy, and nobody else seems vocal enough.

[dc]

I don't hate the Patrick Williams pick as much as I did yesterday but that's mainly just because there's so little I know about him, there's not much footage of him but nothing jumps out at me. I see potential but he has a really long way to go, he's going to need have a Butler-esque drive/work ethic in order to become something special.

The main appeal of Williams is that he's a physical freak at 18-19 years of age while not being totally unpolished. In theory, he should be able to defend the big, star studded wings that rule the NBA while having some offensive ability of his own. You play in the same conference as Jayson Tatum, who is going to around for years. You have to have a matchup for that guy.

The dream for this kind of pick is for the guy to develop into a Kawhi, of course. Then there's the Chris Singletons of the world on the other end, but obviously there were red flags on Singleton. He was expected to be a lotto pick but then dropped to #18. And I can't claim to have watched much of him in the NBA, but he looked noticeably bulkier as a pro than when he was in college, and not in a good way. He looked chubbier/chunkier. Maybe it was the Wiz telling him to dedicate himself to being a full time 4, but something tells me it was work ethic as the guy was out of the league before the halfway point of his 3rd season.

[Bankshot]

Watching lots of film on PWill my main concern (and there are a lot of positive things I like) is his decision making after he beats his man and runs into the second line of defense....he'll throw up an absolute brick or get blocked because he completely shot his wad on the first move....I know it a learned thing and he's young....but this isn't High School anymore....He'll need to be coached up....big time....I pray Billy Donavon saw all this in the tapes and feels it no big deal to fix this very raw talent.

[FriedRise]

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Williams is going to continue to be a tough sell, I think for those skeptical of the pick. Kornisovas seems absolutely set on the kid, so I am envisioning a real pillar of our team in a few years. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't put up a typical #4 pick's amount of minutes this year. His youth is a good thing, but we might not see this kid as a starter for a year or two.

Or what the hell do I know. I hope he comes out absolutely blasting on defense, and we can't keep him off the court.

No summer league, fugaze training camp, 3 weeks post draft, no time at all to get in NBA shape. 3 practice games, none of these rookies has a chance. Well, Deni might have a leg up, being a paid professional with experience already

[Jcool0]

Williams is going to continue to be a tough sell, I think for those skeptical of the pick. Kornisovas seems absolutely set on the kid, so I am envisioning a real pillar of our team in a few years. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't put up a typical #4 pick's amount of minutes this year. His youth is a good thing, but we might not see this kid as a starter for a year or two.

Or what the hell do I know. I hope he comes out absolutely blasting on defense, and we can't keep him off the court.

No summer league, fugaze training camp, 3 weeks post draft, no time at all to get in NBA shape. 3 practice games, none of these rookies has a chance

It will be pretty typical season for the rookies. No team not in the bubble has played in forever. So it's not like they are in some kind of disadvantage. I am usually one that says if you are a top 10 draft pick on a bad team no reason not to start them right away but i see no chance Williams starts and plays more than 20 mpg, unless the injury bug hits them again.

[The Box Office]

I'm ok with this pick. He wasn't in my Top 10.

I was really high on Haliburton. Good luck to Hali in Sacramento.

2 way player.
P. Williams looks like a defensive beast.
He's also athletically explosive.
Has a good jump shot. Looks automatic from mid-range.
Good free throw shooter. Can be a GREAT free throw shooter if he puts in the time.
Covers tons of ground defensively very quickly. That's what Scottie Pippen does well, too. No wonder why AK wanted him.
High IQ to read and react defensively.
Amazing help defender.
Good offensive rebounder.
Underrated handles.
Underrated passer.
Good size.
Do not let P. Williams guard any point guard and shooting guards. Patrick will get destroyed.
Made a lot of improvements to kill his private workouts for AK to take him.

Once again, NBA Draft.net destroyed it with their mock. However, I completely disagree with their assessment of "Plays unselfish to a fault. Can learn to play with more sense of urgency and force the issue, considering his talent edge."

No F'N way, buddy. Don't RUSH anything. Don't FORCE anything. Let the game come to him naturally. Even Michael Jordan doesn't force it. So NBA Draft.net knows more than Michael Jordan? LMAO

I don't care about Patrick Williams potential. I don't know. Nobody knows his potential. Regardless of Patrick being on the bench for his college career, the kid better start Game One in the NBA. He has the makings to do that.

[bullsnewdynasty]

I don't know how anybody could complain about this pick. I don't even know if there is a guaranteed all-star in this draft. For all we know, the top 3 that everyone talks about could be the next Ben McLemore, Nerlens Noel, and Lonzo Ball.

We were never going to draft a big.
Okoro is a 2 guard who can't shoot.
Avdija was much worse than Omri Casspi in the Euroleague
Hayes and Halliburton have MAYBE starter upside at best

[PhilLeotardo]

Coby white most definitely has a high ceiling. It’s crazy to imply that he has a middling ceiling, lol he’s like the most prolific scorer in UNC history & projects to be one of the most potent scorers in the NBA in several years. The Bulls are building their backcourt around him lol

Some of these takes are insane

[TheSuzerain]

Coby white is like the most prolific scorer in UNC history & projects to be one of the most potent scorers in the NBA in several years.

Where are the mods?

[fleet]

Watching lots of film on PWill my main concern (and there are a lot of positive things I like) is his decision making after he beats his man and runs into the second line of defense....he'll throw up an absolute brick or get blocked because he completely shot his wad on the first move....I know it a learned thing and he's young....but this isn't High School anymore....He'll need to be coached up....big time....I pray Billy Donavon saw all this in the tapes and feels it no big deal to fix this very raw talent.

The release on his shots more often than not is weird. Timing is off, some kind of hesitation. Almost as if he is thinking about missing, even if he’s open. Not a confident shooter at this age. He’ll do the million dollar move like was said in one clip, but if the defense keeps up in his face he freezes. Other times he cannot see the D coming. We’ve all seen some people never improve on that. Corey Benjamin disease. He had fake confidence. You could read his mind while he is shooting the ball “**** please dont miss!”

[bullsnewdynasty]

Coby white most definitely has a high ceiling. It’s crazy to imply that he has a middling ceiling, lol he’s like the most prolific scorer in UNC history & projects to be one of the most potent scorers in the NBA in several years. The Bulls are building their backcourt around him lol

Some of these takes are insane

To be an elite scorer you have to be able to get to the FT line which Coby has not shown he can do.

There are also a lot of guards who can score 20 points a game if given the amount of shots Coby was getting at the end of the season.

[The Box Office]

Coby white is like the most prolific scorer in UNC history & projects to be one of the most potent scorers in the NBA in several years.

Where are the mods?

I know, right? LOL. (For the bolded part)

There is more to the game than just getting buckets.
Ask Gilbert Arenas.
James Harden.
George Gervin.
Damian Lillard. (There's still time for Lillard to reach the Finals though)

Coby White has TONS to learn. It's gonna take him awhile to erase that "ball hog" stigma. If he ever does. I think he will not. He doesn't even know how to dictate the tone of the game with his passing. He's too busy jacking up shots.

Think about this: ROOKIE Michael Jordan got 5.9 assists per game. Coby is nowhere near that.

[gobullschi]

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[RSP83]

And made no impact.

Pat made no impact? Great argument.

I just am stunned that many of the posters here who decried Ball, decried Deni, decried Wiseman are all jumping through hoops to make it sound like the right pick.

If Charlotte made this pick, people would be ripping them, same for Cavs and Pistons. Just call it what it is, a reach.

Comparing him to Larry F'n Johnson, really?

Charlotte is a different situation, if Bulls were to pick third, and AK pick Pat over Ball, then yes I would probably rip our FO because simply Ball is the more popular high level prospect and seems to be the consensus top 3 picks for awhile.

Yes, just like how our fanbase reacts, Pistons and Cavs fanbase would react the same because PWill is not the common high lottery pick. But Pistons picking lower at 7 would probably receive less heat than Bulls, if they were to pick PWill.