Trade Discussion 22/23

[JJP]

Delon and JJ for Fournier. A report just came out that Evan wants to be moved.

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The only problem with that is that it crowds out THJ I think - too many guards. I think the Mavs need to trade for a bigger body. Actually, this is the point where Gallinaro now makes the most sense - even though it seems like an impossible transaction.

[dirkules_41]

Delon and JJ for Fournier. A report just came out that Evan wants to be moved.

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The only problem with that is that it crowds out THJ I think - too many guards. I think the Mavs need to trade for a bigger body. Actually, this is the point where Gallinaro now makes the most sense - even though it seems like an impossible transaction.

I wouldn't think so. Start Luka/Fournier/JRich, bring Timmy as 6th man/first guy off the bench and bring on Green, etc. slowly as time progresses. I think 3 formidable players not named Luka at 2/3 would be big time.

[JJP]

Delon and JJ for Fournier. A report just came out that Evan wants to be moved.

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The only problem with that is that it crowds out THJ I think - too many guards. I think the Mavs need to trade for a bigger body. Actually, this is the point where Gallinaro now makes the most sense - even though it seems like an impossible transaction.

I wouldn't think so. Start Luka/Fournier/JRich, bring Timmy as 6th man/first guy off the bench and bring on Green, etc. slowly as time progresses. I think 3 formidable players not named Luka at 2/3 would be big time.

At that point, you'd be investing 35m on two guards who are slightly redundant. That's a lot of money invested in one position. They have a need for a bigger body, not another SG/SF type.

[JJP]

Delon Wright just removed his Mavericks Instagram account!

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[Darren]

Delon and JJ for Fournier. A report just came out that Evan wants to be moved.

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The only problem with that is that it crowds out THJ I think - too many guards. I think the Mavs need to trade for a bigger body. Actually, this is the point where Gallinaro now makes the most sense - even though it seems like an impossible transaction.

I wouldn't think so. Start Luka/Fournier/JRich, bring Timmy as 6th man/first guy off the bench and bring on Green, etc. slowly as time progresses. I think 3 formidable players not named Luka at 2/3 would be big time.

Fournier is expiring. So is Hardaway. Let's not think too much about that. Let's not forget Luka can actually guard PF down low. And J-Rich can defend the likes of PG. There's no problem at all except the Mavs has a shortage of shotblocking presence. If the Mavs somewhat get Bamba from the deal. This is the deal the Mavs could make. Bamba for DFS swap makes sense. Brunson could be included as well.

[Darren]

For example, Fournier and Bamba for DFS, Brunson, Wright, Jackson, 2023 Miami 2nd, 2021 Mavs 2nd could be done. Orlando gets a fix in Isaac's absence and clear a jam at frontcourt and rid themselves of a malcontent. The Mavs gets a more natural shooter and shotblocker coming back without salary dumped. That's perfect scenario with / without Giannis coming to Dallas in 2021.

[dirkules_41]

The only problem with that is that it crowds out THJ I think - too many guards. I think the Mavs need to trade for a bigger body. Actually, this is the point where Gallinaro now makes the most sense - even though it seems like an impossible transaction.

I wouldn't think so. Start Luka/Fournier/JRich, bring Timmy as 6th man/first guy off the bench and bring on Green, etc. slowly as time progresses. I think 3 formidable players not named Luka at 2/3 would be big time.

Fournier is expiring. So is Hardaway. Let's not think too much about that. Let's not forget Luka can actually guard PF down low. And J-Rich can defend the likes of PG. There's no problem at all except the Mavs has a shortage of shotblocking presence. If the Mavs somewhat get Bamba from the deal. This is the deal the Mavs could make. Bamba for DFS swap makes sense. Brunson could be included as well.

Luka can not and should never guard PFs. He could temporarily if need be but that is not a viable strategy, you don't want him getting banged up and worn down on defense, let alone draw unneccessary fouls - RC would never let that happen.

[aussiewill]

Delon trade ideas, has to be for a big whilst Powell/KP are out I think, the guard spots are officially filled... A few ideas-

PJ Tucker (1 year left)
Al-Farooq Aminu
Christiano Felicio (1 year left)
Gorgui Dieng (1 year left) + throw in Justin Jackson
Nemanja Bjelica (1 year left)
Jabari Parker (1 year left)

[jpengland]

I'd be looking at a 3/4.

Bring back WCS.

Maxi, Boban, WCS with Powell and KP coming back. Pick up a minimum big veteran (Taj Gibson just got wiaved) as short term KP cover.

MLE and any trades then should focus on 3/4s with some length, defense and a 3 point shot.

[arkuo]

I wonder if Dallas has any kind of interest on Gordon Hayward. He can be signed and traded to a place of his preference now that he opted out of Boston.

Hayward is the same height as Dorian Finney Smith. Which makes him able to play both forward spots. More 3 than 4 IMO.

[Archx]

I wonder if Dallas has any kind of interest on Gordon Hayward. He can be signed and traded to a place of his preference now that he opted out of Boston.

Hayward is the same height as Dorian Finney Smith. Which makes him able to play both forward spots. More 3 than 4 IMO.

Hayward would be fine for a cheap deal i guess but Mavs suddenly have a lot of guards and wings. I believe that even Gallo would be a better option than Hayward. But again, this team still needs enforcers or any other big guy that can defend and also shoot. Townsend hinted that on his twitter and he believes that Mavs are actively looking for those type of players. Also Rick said that they are not even close to being done with reshaping the roster, so we'll see what happens.

[JJP]

The question I have now about trades is which Mav besides Wright and Jackson might go out? Ideally, only those two. However, the most likely candidate for a bigger trade is probably Maxi - particularly if you're trading for a PF-type. Total three together is about 18-19 million a year for some kind of sign-and-trade. But that's just ballparking speculation. Any number of things could happen.

[arkuo]

The question I have now about trades is which Mav besides Wright and Jackson might go out? Ideally, only those two. However, the most likely candidate for a bigger trade is probably Maxi - particularly if you're trading for a PF-type. Total three together is about 18-19 million a year for some kind of sign-and-trade. But that's just ballparking speculation. Any number of things could happen.

I think it depends on how deep RC is planning to play for the season. If its a 9 to 10 man roster then 5 or 6 from that 15 man lineup will rarely see court time. Maybe 2 or 3 mins of garbage time. Which is why we need to just dump Wright. We're essentially paying him to keep the seat warm.

[JJP]

Wright will be traded in the next few days. I doubt it's that hard to get something in return even if it's a future second-rounder or some equivalent.

[Mr B]

I wonder if Dallas has any kind of interest on Gordon Hayward. He can be signed and traded to a place of his preference now that he opted out of Boston.

Hayward is the same height as Dorian Finney Smith. Which makes him able to play both forward spots. More 3 than 4 IMO.

Hayward would be fine for a cheap deal i guess but Mavs suddenly have a lot of guards and wings. I believe that even Gallo would be a better option than Hayward. But again, this team still needs enforcers or any other big guy that can defend and also shoot. Townsend hinted that on his twitter and he believes that Mavs are actively looking for those type of players. Also Rick said that they are not even close to being done with reshaping the roster, so we'll see what happens.

I expect that enforcer role will be filled with the MLE. Harrell, or Crowder would be my bet.


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[Mr B]

The question I have now about trades is which Mav besides Wright and Jackson might go out? Ideally, only those two. However, the most likely candidate for a bigger trade is probably Maxi - particularly if you're trading for a PF-type. Total three together is about 18-19 million a year for some kind of sign-and-trade. But that's just ballparking speculation. Any number of things could happen.

I agree, ideally it would be Powell instead of Maxi but Maxi has more value


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[dirkules_41]

I wonder if Dallas has any kind of interest on Gordon Hayward. He can be signed and traded to a place of his preference now that he opted out of Boston.

Hayward is the same height as Dorian Finney Smith. Which makes him able to play both forward spots. More 3 than 4 IMO.

Hayward would be fine for a cheap deal i guess but Mavs suddenly have a lot of guards and wings. I believe that even Gallo would be a better option than Hayward. But again, this team still needs enforcers or any other big guy that can defend and also shoot. Townsend hinted that on his twitter and he believes that Mavs are actively looking for those type of players. Also Rick said that they are not even close to being done with reshaping the roster, so we'll see what happens.

I expect that enforcer role will be filled with the MLE. Harrell, or Crowder would be my bet.


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I really hope not. Harrell is a huge defensive liability and can't shoot and Crowder is good but I'd rather give that playing time to our rookies and get someone who can make a bigger impact.

[Mr B]

Hayward would be fine for a cheap deal i guess but Mavs suddenly have a lot of guards and wings. I believe that even Gallo would be a better option than Hayward. But again, this team still needs enforcers or any other big guy that can defend and also shoot. Townsend hinted that on his twitter and he believes that Mavs are actively looking for those type of players. Also Rick said that they are not even close to being done with reshaping the roster, so we'll see what happens.

I expect that enforcer role will be filled with the MLE. Harrell, or Crowder would be my bet.


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I really hope not. Harrell is a huge defensive liability and can't shoot and Crowder is good but I'd rather give that playing time to our rookies and get someone who can make a bigger impact.

Didn’t Harrell win 6th man of the year or came close mostly based on his defensive prowess?


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[dirkules_41]

I expect that enforcer role will be filled with the MLE. Harrell, or Crowder would be my bet.


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I really hope not. Harrell is a huge defensive liability and can't shoot and Crowder is good but I'd rather give that playing time to our rookies and get someone who can make a bigger impact.

Didn’t Harrell win 6th man of the year or came close mostly based on his defensive prowess?


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That's the perception because he plays tough but if you look into the statistics they speak a very different language. The Clippers did substantially better when he was off the floor vs on. I don't have the stats handy but maybe someone else does.

[Archx]

I really hope not. Harrell is a huge defensive liability and can't shoot and Crowder is good but I'd rather give that playing time to our rookies and get someone who can make a bigger impact.

Didn’t Harrell win 6th man of the year or came close mostly based on his defensive prowess?


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That's the perception because he plays tough but if you look into the statistics they speak a very different language. The Clippers did substantially better when he was off the floor vs on. I don't have the stats handy but maybe someone else does.

Well up to the bubble, Harrell was a force off the bench. But then COVID or something stopped him? He wasn't himself in the playoffs was completely off. I mean sure he is a risk but if he is at full strength and motivated, he could be someone that Mavs would need. I can't see Crowder leaving Miami unless they don't have the money for him. He was actually really good for them.

When it comes to rookies, they'll need time to adjust, this season will probably be quite hectic and it's also shorter again. Every game will count and we don't know how good Powell will be and KP missing couple of games, Mavs will need every help that they can get but i don't think these rookies can have such a big impact right from the start.