The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason

[nzahir]

About the D. My main worry is that the Defense will depend almost wholly on Lebron and Anthony Davis. They can handle the load to some extent, but if Lebron teams have taught me anything, it's that no championship team should have the offense and defense being anchored by the same player(s). LeBron should not be the 2nd best defender on this team. Without others to cover for them, it's just begging for trouble.

Caruso and Schroder are both very solid defenders for the point guard spot. I think KCP almost certainly is coming back. Wes Matthews seems somewhat likely. Caruso, Schroder, Matthews, KCP, LeBron, AD is a really strong defensive core. I think they probably end up with 1 of Howard, Ibaka, or Tristan Thompson as well.

Yeah that looks like a pretty good defensive team tbh. Not particularly sold on Schroder but the Lakers survived Rondo so eh.

Schroeder is a solid defender

We need another ball handler here who can get to the basket

[nzahir]

I like kuz from a personal standpoint but doing a trade with him and javale makes more sense

Schroder/Caruso
KCP/
Bogdan/
Lebron/
AD/

Is an amazing start. Sub out KCP for bogdan and i still like it, but alot of that will depend on how kuz does and im sure we value kuz over kcp

I don't think AD starts and honestly I am fine with that for the reg season if it helps him bang less with bigs

But I expect him to close 4th Qs as the C for most games

If we can keep the BAE with Bogdan and KCP and keep Dwight at least, I am fine with this

[MyUniBroDavis]

I like kuz from a personal standpoint but doing a trade with him and javale makes more sense

Schroder/Caruso
KCP/
Bogdan/
Lebron/
AD/

Is an amazing start. Sub out KCP for bogdan and i still like it, but alot of that will depend on how kuz does and im sure we value kuz over kcp

I don't think AD starts and honestly I am fine with that for the reg season if it helps him bang less with bigs

But I expect him to close 4th Qs as the C for most games

If we can keep the BAE with Bogdan and KCP and keep Dwight at least, I am fine with this

More talking about playoff rotation

Kcp v kuzma is a risk reward thing, kuz with a jumper is >> kcp, but obv its hard to say if he'll have one

He did look better in the bubble though, shot around 35% from three since the restart.

Hes starting to look real nice on D too

[LikeABosh]

No thanks on Bog. I would flat out take KCP over him at the same salary.

People really underestimate how important it is come playoffs to not have guys out on the floor who the other team can pick on. KCP is an active defender who plays his role well and shot 38.5% from 3 in the RS and then 38% from 3 in the PS. Bogdan isn't in another league as a shooter and he's signficantly worse as a defender.

Don't be fooled by the box score. Bogdan is a much better shooter than KCP. KCP is average to slightly above average while Bogdan is actually elite.

KCP only took 22 unassisted 3's last season. Bogi took 136. If you put him on the Lakers and have him stick to catch-and-shoot 3's, he's a +40% shooter like he was the last 2 seasons (in that category). I'd expect KCP to hover around 36-37% like he has for most of his career.

So I think it's a huge offensive improvement with an obvious downgrade defensively.

[LikeABosh]

Bogdan takes a deal with a starting salary of 17m

Lakers rescind every cap hold except AD, KCP and Dwight (so Bradley, Morris, Waiters, Kostas, Dudley and Rondo)

Lakers send Kuzma and McGee to SAC

Pincus says this is possible

The Lakers stealing Bogdan out from under the Bucks would be such a hilarious turn of events.

Especially because of the tampering aspect. LeBron and Rich Paul probably complained to the league

[MyUniBroDavis]

No thanks on Bog. I would flat out take KCP over him at the same salary.

People really underestimate how important it is come playoffs to not have guys out on the floor who the other team can pick on. KCP is an active defender who plays his role well and shot 38.5% from 3 in the RS and then 38% from 3 in the PS. Bogdan isn't in another league as a shooter and he's signficantly worse as a defender.

Don't be fooled by the box score. Bogdan is a much better shooter than KCP. KCP is average to slightly above average while Bogdan is actually elite.

KCP only took 22 unassisted 3's last season. Bogi took 136. If you put him on the Lakers and have him stick to catch-and-shoot 3's, he's a +40% shooter like he was the last 2 seasons (in that category). I'd expect KCP to hover around 36-37% like he has for most of his career.

So I think it's a huge offensive improvement with an obvious downgrade defensively.

Tbf bogdan shot 40.6 vs 39.0 for kcp on catxh and shoots, but i agree that he'll get better looks. I think the other elements of his game help more personally, hes not as one dimensional.

Defensively im curious though, is he actually all that bad? Its obv the lakers culture makes guys play good d all around if they have the potential to do so, i mean kcp wasnt a good defender in 2018 or 2019 although he obv had the potential to be from his piston days.

[dreamshake]

Bogdan takes a deal with a starting salary of 17m

Lakers rescind every cap hold except AD, KCP and Dwight (so Bradley, Morris, Waiters, Kostas, Dudley and Rondo)

Lakers send Kuzma and McGee to SAC

Pincus says this is possible

The Lakers stealing Bogdan out from under the Bucks would be such a hilarious turn of events.

Especially because of the tampering aspect. LeBron and Rich Paul probably complained to the league

If it is possible - Schroder, Bogdan, KCP, Bron, AD is a really, really strong 5-man unit. Huge offensive upgrade from last season. Depth might get a little suspect tho depending on who they can get on vet minimums

[LikeABosh]

Tbf bogdan shot 40.6 vs 39.0 for kcp on catxh and shoots, but i agree that he'll get better looks. I think the other elements of his game help more personally, hes not as one dimensional.

On a higher volume (like 100 more shots)

But more importantly, KCP's averages have bounced around a lot over the years. He's had years where shot 36%, 32%, and 40%. He's just not a consistent shooter to be considered elite. But Bogi's percentages off the pass have been fairly stable over the last 3 seasons. Basically 40% or higher

[MyUniBroDavis]

Bogdan takes a deal with a starting salary of 17m

Lakers rescind every cap hold except AD, KCP and Dwight (so Bradley, Morris, Waiters, Kostas, Dudley and Rondo)

Lakers send Kuzma and McGee to SAC

Pincus says this is possible

The Lakers stealing Bogdan out from under the Bucks would be such a hilarious turn of events.

Especially because of the tampering aspect. LeBron and Rich Paul probably complained to the league

If it is possible - Schroder, Bogdan, KCP, Bron, AD is a really, really strong 5-man unit. Huge offensive upgrade from last season. Depth might get a little suspect tho depending on who they can get on vet minimums

Our 9 man lineup throughout the playoffs was

AD
Lebron
KCP
Green
Rondo
Caruso
Kuzma
Morris
Dwight

Rest of the guys played 10 mins or less and werent really key, so if we get a servicable big and 3 and D guys our depth should be fine

[dreamshake]

Pincus says this is possible



Especially because of the tampering aspect. LeBron and Rich Paul probably complained to the league

If it is possible - Schroder, Bogdan, KCP, Bron, AD is a really, really strong 5-man unit. Huge offensive upgrade from last season. Depth might get a little suspect tho depending on who they can get on vet minimums

Our 9 man lineup throughout the playoffs was

AD
Lebron
KCP
Green
Rondo
Caruso
Kuzma
Morris
Dwight

Rest of the guys played 10 mins or less and werent really key, so if we get a servicable big and 3 and D guys our depth should be fine

Yeah my concern would be replacing the last 3 on your list. If I understand correctly they’d be hard capped after that sign and trade and would only have minimums to offer. I think Dwight & Kieff want and will get more than that elsewhere

[dreamshake]

Well sounds like Bogdans going to Atlanta. Better there than Bucks.

[nzahir]

Looks like ATL for Bogdan

Guess that dream is over

Would be nice to have a consistent sniper on this team

[homecourtloss]

Bogdan takes a deal with a starting salary of 17m

Lakers rescind every cap hold except AD, KCP and Dwight (so Bradley, Morris, Waiters, Kostas, Dudley and Rondo)

Lakers send Kuzma and McGee to SAC

Pincus says this is possible

The Lakers stealing Bogdan out from under the Bucks would be such a hilarious turn of events.

Especially because of the tampering aspect. LeBron and Rich Paul probably complained to the league

The rage and gnashing of teeth on GB would be so glorious

[Mos_Heat]

3.6m for Wes Matthews

[nzahir]

3.6m for Wes Matthews

Very fair

Cmon down KCP

So we can use Mle and BAE, right? I thought you could, someone here said no. But how would that logically make sense, why would anyone pick the bae over mle

[Dupp]

In a surprising turn of events Mathews signs with LA. Good signing, he was always going there.


Kcp vs bogdan... I don’t like giving up too much defense. Greens a huge loss already and kcp, while nothing special is pretty decent. Lakers identity is defense and I think that’s the formula to continue with an aging James.

[nzahir]

In a surprising turn of events Mathews signs with LA. Good signing, he was always going there.


Kcp vs bogdan... I don’t like giving up too much defense. Greens a huge loss already and kcp, while nothing special is pretty decent. Lakers identity is defense and I think that’s the formula to continue with an aging James.

Somehow Bogdan grades better on D in some metrics vs KCP

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Not sure if u buy it completely, but would love to have a consistent shooter

KCP and Gallo would be nasty

Excited we got a Danny replacement.

Wes is a better man defender even, worse off ball

[Mos_Heat]

3.6m for Wes Matthews

Very fair

Cmon down KCP

So we can use Mle and BAE, right? I thought you could, someone here said no. But how would that logically make sense, why would anyone pick the bae over mle

Yes, but you would be hardcaped after using MLE

[Mos_Heat]

3m for Dwight

edit: not yet

[mademan]

If the Lakers bring back KCP and Dwight, which i think is likely, they'll already have improved over last season before they use the midlevel