Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread

[Dadouv47]

Odds are that we won’t be very good plus we will have the Rockets FRP (top 4 protected) in the pick swap with MIA FRP. So that’s two lottery picks right there.

Still 14% at best. Even if we fail at 3rd or 4th, we may need to overpay to get him.

I think Sam is ok with the overpays. That's why he is getting so many draft picks.

Look at the Poku trade two late firsts and Rubio. The Thunder probably could have made Rubio more useful. But, they send him somewhere where he can succeeded and they got the guy they really wanted in the draft.

If we can overpay for Cunningham and 2 more guys you got yourself a starting 5 with Cade, Shai & Poku.

We will see about Poku. Odds of bust are crazy high.

So far we have one NBA caliber starter in this league. I hope SGA can be a good option 2 in a championship team.

[thedoppelganger]

Hollinger's take on the Oubre TPE/Gallo S&T situation:

One of the big, nerdy cap-guy dramas this week is whether Oklahoma City will operate as an “above the cap” team, keeping its horde of trade exceptions and its full mid-level exception in play, or as a “below the cap” team that must shed all its exceptions and Danilo Gallinari’s Bird Rights to complete the Danny Green-Al Horford trade with Philadelphia. (That trade was agreed to several days ago but can’t be completed until Monday).

The trade of Kelly Oubre to Golden State leaves the “above the cap” option very much on the table, as the Thunder can spin this into a three-team deal by having the Warriors include one of their many fungible secondary players (say, Ky Bowman or Juan Toscano-Anderson) as consideration going to the Sixers. Doing so would allow the Thunder to execute the Philly trade without having to get $8 million under the cap first, and would leave the door open for Danilo Gallinari sign-and-trade deals that could bring in — you guessed it — more draft picks!

[jake_swivel]

In terms of value, I wonder if Presti was right to trade Green/Oubre so fast or if he should have waited a bit more. We will know soon enough. Probably no big difference.

I don’t think there was a lot more value to get out of Oubre before the season started, and I think there will be a positive in a tank year to have as much stability as possible. It’s already going to be a challenging year culture wise, having a young dude in a contract year would take focus off of development.

I also thing it’s a positive thing long term for all of the guys that didn’t want be here to get shipped out pretty soon. Sam is proving to players he’s going to respect them. In a challenging free agent location like okc, having a reputation that you are going to treat your players well and respect them is going to pay off.

[ThunderBolt]

In terms of value, I wonder if Presti was right to trade Green/Oubre so fast or if he should have waited a bit more. We will know soon enough. Probably no big difference.

I don’t think there was a lot more value to get out of Oubre before the season started, and I think there will be a positive in a tank year to have as much stability as possible. It’s already going to be a challenging year culture wise, having a young dude in a contract year would take focus off of development.

I also thing it’s a positive thing long term for all of the guys that didn’t want be here to get shipped out pretty soon. Sam is proving to players he’s going to respect them. In a challenging free agent location like okc, having a reputation that you are going to treat your players well and respect them is going to pay off.

That and I think lots of teams are in a frenzy to make deals. He's right to be aggressive and get the deals done early.

[slick_watts]

sam presti obviously sacrificed some value on draft compensation for the flexibility of clearing kelly oubre's cap hit.

[retrobro90]

SGA-Maledon-Lecque
Jerome-Diallo
Dort-Schofield-Hall
Bazley-Pokusevski-Johnson-Roby
Adams-Horford-Poirier-Muscala

That's the roster

Having a major brain fart here. What's Johnson's first name?

[Balkman32]

sam presti obviously sacrificed some value on draft compensation for the flexibility of clearing kelly oubre's cap hit.

Plus the trade exception could be used at the trade deadline to bail a team out of lux tax hell by taking on any expiring deal making around $14 million. If a team is saving $30 million you can really stick it to them and make they pay for the off load the contract, especially with there only being a handful of teams that could even do that type of deal if they wanted to. Every deal Presti makes he is getting closer to where this team needs to be.

[jambalaya]

James Johnson.

Had a pretty good stint for TWolves by boxscore stats. Higher assist rate than I would have guessed. His LA-RAPM estimate for seaaon was very weak though.

Some team might want him at trade deadline or after a buyout.

[timO]

SGA-Maledon-Lecque
Jerome-Diallo
Dort-Schofield-Hall
Bazley-Pokusevski-Johnson-Roby
Adams-Horford-Poirier-Muscala

That's the roster

Still a 25-30W team

we need to get rid of Adams

I hate the Oubre trade, first i would like him on the roster, then they gifted him to a desperated GSW for 2 SRP...

[Balkman32]

SGA-Maledon-Lecque
Jerome-Diallo
Dort-Schofield-Hall
Bazley-Pokusevski-Johnson-Roby
Adams-Horford-Poirier-Muscala

That's the roster

Still a 25-30W team

we need to get rid of Adams

I hate the Oubre trade, first i would like him on the roster, then they gifted him to a desperated GSW for 2 SRP...

Adams and Horford aren’t winning the Thunder games. I think they are important parts of this team. I think they will be good for Poku and help develop the big men. Plus, these guys might be good pieces to deal at the deadline.

[timO]

Are there any good fits for a team to take on Adams as a salary dump? Maybe Dallas? I don’t see a lot of options.

Boston before GH opts out.

Hornets, Mavs, Sacto, Raps seem legit candidates.

[jake_swivel]

SGA-Maledon-Lecque
Jerome-Diallo
Dort-Schofield-Hall
Bazley-Pokusevski-Johnson-Roby
Adams-Horford-Poirier-Muscala

That's the roster

Still a 25-30W team

we need to get rid of Adams

I hate the Oubre trade, first i would like him on the roster, then they gifted him to a desperated GSW for 2 SRP...

I’d totally be ok with winning 25 games.

[timO]

SGA-Maledon-Lecque
Jerome-Diallo
Dort-Schofield-Hall
Bazley-Pokusevski-Johnson-Roby
Adams-Horford-Poirier-Muscala

That's the roster

Still a 25-30W team

we need to get rid of Adams

I hate the Oubre trade, first i would like him on the roster, then they gifted him to a desperated GSW for 2 SRP...

I’d totally be ok with winning 25 games.

thats a pick 9

We need a top 5 pick, top 3 better

[jake_swivel]

thats a pick 9

We need a top 5 pick, top 3 better

It’s between 3-5 depending on the season. Usually closer to 5.

[timO]

thats a pick 9

We need a top 5 pick, top 3 better

It’s between 3-5 depending on the season. Usually closer to 5.

72 game season, so 8-10

[jake_swivel]

thats a pick 9

We need a top 5 pick, top 3 better

It’s between 3-5 depending on the season. Usually closer to 5.

72 game season, so 8-10

Gotcha. Hadn’t made the mental switch to 72 games. Personally I don’t think this team will get out of the bottom 5, record-wise. As is, it looks like no one can score except Shai. Can’t really shoot either. Spacing is gonna be pretty awful (think about a starting lineup with dort/diallo), and as of right now there is no one with full time experience playing point guard. They also have depth issues outside of the center position. With inevitable injuries, there would be stretches of admiral Schofield and ty Jerome playing heavy minutes.

[vtime]

SGA-Maledon-Lecque
Jerome-Diallo
Dort-Schofield-Hall
Bazley-Pokusevski-Johnson-Roby
Adams-Horford-Poirier-Muscala

That's the roster

Still a 25-30W team

we need to get rid of Adams

I hate the Oubre trade, first i would like him on the roster, then they gifted him to a desperated GSW for 2 SRP...

If Steph is healthy, Golden State is probably a top 4-5 seed. Houston will be worse, Utah likely will too. Denver probably the same, improvement from Murray, Porter, Jokic but losing 2 starters in Millsap, Grant most likely. Dallas and Portland will probably be better with their offseason additions. Lakers and Clips are the only 2 locks to finish with a better record and if the Clips get off to a slow start they could start trying to sell off guys for assets and have a lower seed

[Dadouv47]

Read on Twitter

my big dream about a Gallo S&T is almost over ;(

[jake_swivel]

my big dream about a Gallo S&T is almost over ;(

Bruh, at this point I’m gonna throw you a party if it happens or send you a condolences card if it doesn’t.

[Dadouv47]

Guess we will trade Adams to Detroit so he can play at the PG position