boomershadow wrote:I can't help but notice that Boston just traded one of their centers.
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Lot of rumors of them chasing Christian Wood from Detroit.
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boomershadow wrote:I can't help but notice that Boston just traded one of their centers.
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Scoot McGroot wrote:pacers33granger wrote:It's Begley, so take it with a grain of salt:
I'll lose confidence in KP if we send either to Boston though.
With the other reports of negotiations, this implies that Pritchard was just offering Doug/Lamb/Leaf
If it’s true, that is
Topofthekey wrote:Scoot McGroot wrote:pacers33granger wrote:It's Begley, so take it with a grain of salt:
I'll lose confidence in KP if we send either to Boston though.
With the other reports of negotiations, this implies that Pritchard was just offering Doug/Lamb/Leaf
If it’s true, that is
If it's true, then I love it
That's exactly the type of package we should offer for Hayward
Hayward has already opted out anyway. He either signs with Knicks, in which case Celtics get nothing. Or Celtics accept that package, in which case they at least get something
Come on Ainge, don't be stubborn about this, just take the deal!
Topofthekey wrote:Let's see how it plays out
I'm perfectly happy if the end result is Hayward signing with Knicks or elsewhere
But the most enjoyable outcome would be to see KP successfully acquire Hayward for scraps
Scoot McGroot wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Let's see how it plays out
I'm perfectly happy if the end result is Hayward signing with Knicks or elsewhere
But the most enjoyable outcome would be to see KP successfully acquire Hayward for scraps
Sure, but that's the equivalent of Ainge getting Turner/Oladipo/AHoliday for Hayward, too.
Scoot McGroot wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Let's see how it plays out
I'm perfectly happy if the end result is Hayward signing with Knicks or elsewhere
But the most enjoyable outcome would be to see KP successfully acquire Hayward for scraps
Sure, but that's the equivalent of Ainge getting Turner/Oladipo/AHoliday for Hayward, too.
Topofthekey wrote:Scoot McGroot wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Let's see how it plays out
I'm perfectly happy if the end result is Hayward signing with Knicks or elsewhere
But the most enjoyable outcome would be to see KP successfully acquire Hayward for scraps
Sure, but that's the equivalent of Ainge getting Turner/Oladipo/AHoliday for Hayward, too.
Which is close to what some Celtics posters have annoyingly been pushing for non stop
That's why it would be so, so sweet if the actual trade ended up being Lamb and Doug instead
It's not like we have anything to lose if Hayward ended up signing with Knicks or another team
Celtics lose Hayward for nothing though if he indeed simply signed into cap space with another team
I understand that a package of Lamb and Doug is underwhelming, and Celtics wouldn't want to help us acquire Hayward that cheaply
But if their desire to spite the face by cutting off the nose is stronger than their desire to recoup at least some value, then watching them do just that is also a satisfying win in my books
Lazlo4D wrote:Trying to think of an out of the box trade of Oladipo for value by maximizing cap space for this off-season.
The Knicks have a lot of partial guaranteed contracts and could get Oladipo for a bargain while Pacers clear cap space.
Pacers trade: Victor Oladipo, Jeremy Lamb
Knicks trade: 2021 Dallas FRP (Unprotected) along with Taj Gibson, Wayne Ellington, Elfrid Payton
Taj Gibson, Wayne Ellington, Elfrid Payton all have $1M buyouts, I think, allowing the Pacers to clear $28M from their cap.
That would allow the Pacers to sign FA's, facilitate trades this off-season when no one has cap space and pick extra future FRP's, or deals like TJ Warren last year.
Could this be a way of maximizing value from trading Oladipo now? Is this NBA legal?
OnFire wrote:Lazlo4D wrote:Trying to think of an out of the box trade of Oladipo for value by maximizing cap space for this off-season.
The Knicks have a lot of partial guaranteed contracts and could get Oladipo for a bargain while Pacers clear cap space.
Pacers trade: Victor Oladipo, Jeremy Lamb
Knicks trade: 2021 Dallas FRP (Unprotected) along with Taj Gibson, Wayne Ellington, Elfrid Payton
Taj Gibson, Wayne Ellington, Elfrid Payton all have $1M buyouts, I think, allowing the Pacers to clear $28M from their cap.
That would allow the Pacers to sign FA's, facilitate trades this off-season when no one has cap space and pick extra future FRP's, or deals like TJ Warren last year.
Could this be a way of maximizing value from trading Oladipo now? Is this NBA legal?
With NY already waiving some players mentioned above to create $40M in space, I think this idea of Lazlo4D could be a base for a Hayward acquisition to push thru.
Since I'd rather see Myles stay and with Dipo a hanging cloud over the team, what if we deal Dipo + Leaf to NY for their players like Reggie Bullock + Dennis Smith, Jr + Bradizeikis (2nd Rd. Pick Lithuanian project) + 1 future first/2 SRP?
Doing the math, that would give us room to offer Hayward a deal in the $18M - $25M ($72M - $100/4yrs) range straight up; have NY get value and with still a $20M warchest; and we don't have to deal with Danny Ainge's "oneupmanship" since Hayward is already UFA status.
Just my 2 cents.
Topofthekey wrote:The report that Pacers are offering Myles and Doug greatly concerns me though
I hope KP just hangs up the phone everytime Celtics mention Myles Turner
OnFire wrote:Lazlo4D wrote:Trying to think of an out of the box trade of Oladipo for value by maximizing cap space for this off-season.
The Knicks have a lot of partial guaranteed contracts and could get Oladipo for a bargain while Pacers clear cap space.
Pacers trade: Victor Oladipo, Jeremy Lamb
Knicks trade: 2021 Dallas FRP (Unprotected) along with Taj Gibson, Wayne Ellington, Elfrid Payton
Taj Gibson, Wayne Ellington, Elfrid Payton all have $1M buyouts, I think, allowing the Pacers to clear $28M from their cap.
That would allow the Pacers to sign FA's, facilitate trades this off-season when no one has cap space and pick extra future FRP's, or deals like TJ Warren last year.
Could this be a way of maximizing value from trading Oladipo now? Is this NBA legal?
With NY already waiving some players mentioned above to create $40M in space, I think this idea of Lazlo4D could be a base for a Hayward acquisition to push thru.
Since I'd rather see Myles stay and with Dipo a hanging cloud over the team, what if we deal Dipo + Leaf to NY for their players like Reggie Bullock + Dennis Smith, Jr + Bradizeikis (2nd Rd. Pick Lithuanian project) + 1 future first/2 SRP?
Doing the math, that would give us room to offer Hayward a deal in the $18M - $25M ($72M - $100/4yrs) range straight up; have NY get value and with still a $20M warchest; and we don't have to deal with Danny Ainge's "oneupmanship" since Hayward is already UFA status.
Just my 2 cents.
Topofthekey wrote:Question about how S&Ts work
Does it only work with the Free Agent's original team?
I tried looking this up, but I think it's says S&Ts are when one team signs a player and then immediately trades him elsewhere
Doesn't seem like there's a stipulation that it's only limited to the FA's original team
If that's the case, couldn't we work something out with one of the less popular cap space teams?
Say Hornets
Hayward makes it clear that he has no intention to play for the Hornets
The Hornets sign him anyway and immediately trades him to us for Lamb + Doug + some minor incentives
Hayward gets to play for his team of choice, we get Hayward cheaply, and Hornets get something from their cap space