Lowe & Givony suggest Haliburton wanted Sacramento?

[LightTheBeam]

You mean like how curry supposedly didnt want to play for the warriors?

Im pretty sure a rookie will stfu and do as he's told because playing in the league is more important then being able to pick his team.

You never heard of Steve Francis? How'd that work out for Vancouver?

The only time a team should draft a guy who says he doesn't want to be there is if it's with a consensus generational 1st overall pick because that asset will retain it's trade value. Otherwise just draft the kid that wants to be there.

If all you got for proof is some clown that turned out to be a bust then you got nothing. Im sure the hornets are kicking themselves for giving into Kobe and giving him what he wanted as opposed to drafting the best player available

Stevie Franchise was a bust? I'll admit he's not some generational talent, and injuries derailed his career but damn. 8 solid seasons 3 as an Allstar. If that's your idea of a bust, then there's maybe 1-3 worthy players max per draft

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[jimmy keys]

You mean like how curry supposedly didnt want to play for the warriors?

Im pretty sure a rookie will stfu and do as he's told because playing in the league is more important then being able to pick his team.

You never heard of Steve Francis? How'd that work out for Vancouver?

The only time a team should draft a guy who says he doesn't want to be there is if it's with a consensus generational 1st overall pick because that asset will retain it's trade value. Otherwise just draft the kid that wants to be there.

lol this is how you lose your job the kid will show up no matter what and not give 100 % what an absurd comment ( I’m not sure that was you who said it though)

some kids have more clout than others. regarding Haliburton he was in a tier that was about a dozen players deep. he's not some kind of stand out. if all things are pretty equal i'd draft the kid who wants to be there, which is exactly what 11 teams did apparently.

[Lalouie]

he's the #12 in a cr@ppy draft. he will go wherever the nba wants him to go

[jimmy keys]

You mean like how curry supposedly didnt want to play for the warriors?

Im pretty sure a rookie will stfu and do as he's told because playing in the league is more important then being able to pick his team.

You never heard of Steve Francis? How'd that work out for Vancouver?

The only time a team should draft a guy who says he doesn't want to be there is if it's with a consensus generational 1st overall pick because that asset will retain it's trade value. Otherwise just draft the kid that wants to be there.

If all you got for proof is some clown that turned out to be a bust then you got nothing. Im sure the hornets are kicking themselves for giving into Kobe and giving him what he wanted as opposed to drafting the best player available

you're probably underrating how much harder it was to convince an american kid to play in Canada in late 1990s. i agree if you're just some random american city then roll the dice, what's a college kid going to do?

international players though have more clout because they're already pros. Porzingis didn't want to go to Philly and Hinkie passed on him. Same with Luka and Sacramento/Atlanta. Kobe's camp gave the same threat about going to Italy if the Hornets said they weren't trading him and no one called his bluff. at the end of the day it's about clout and leverage. nobody wants to be the GM that threw away a lotto pick on Fran Vazquez.

[jimmy keys]

he's the #12 in a cr@ppy draft. he will go wherever the nba wants him to go

11 teams spoke and said nah he's not worth it. this class is just role players. why not just take the role player that wants to be there?

[Lalouie]

he's the #12 in a cr@ppy draft. he will go wherever the nba wants him to go

11 teams spoke and said nah he's not worth it. this class is just role players. why not just take the role player that wants to be there?

that's just giving a powerless rookie power. if emoni bates says he only wants to play for the lakers and 28 teams pass on him, then he's a teenager who's been given the power to have his own way and he hasn't stepped foot on a pro court

haliburton is the same except he's no emoni bates. in which case eliminate the draft because it only has to start with one player and 5yrs later all the draftees have power.

ummmmm, you know what, i take all that back. i've always been a proponent of an equal 30team draft lottery so now that i think about it,,,good for haliburton

[jimmy keys]

he's the #12 in a cr@ppy draft. he will go wherever the nba wants him to go

11 teams spoke and said nah he's not worth it. this class is just role players. why not just take the role player that wants to be there?

that's just giving a powerless rookie power. if emoni bates says he only wants to play for the lakers and 28 teams pass on him, then he's a teenager who's been given the power to have his own way and he hasn't stepped foot on a pro court

haliburton is the same except he's no emoni bates. in which case eliminate the draft because it only has to start with one player and 5yrs later all the draftees have power.

ummmmm, you know what, i take all that back. i've always been a proponent of an equal 30team draft lottery so now that i think about it,,,good for haliburton

I suggested in another thread that the NBA should take the MLS route. If you develop a player from an early age (teenage years) you should retain their rights. I believe it's better for the prospects and the league overall. Leave the draft as is for college players. Most talent won't even go that route unless they are very motivated to get an education or are a late bloomer.

As for a guy like Bates no team is passing on him. He would/could request a trade on draft day but it would resemble something like the Luka / Trae trade. He could basically pick amongst the teams with a top 5 pick or with enough assets to make it worth it for the team who drafts him. Late lotto is different story though.

[dc]

Reminder for everyone that Steph Curry's agent specifically told the Warriors, in no uncertain terms, not to draft his client. He told them directly in plain English. They wouldn't even let the Warriors have a phone interview with him. And guess what....the Warriors drafted him anyways.

So if Dallas (assuming a trade was lined up), ATL or whoever else REALLY wanted Haliburton, all they had to do was draft him. And those teams knew that Haliburton could've sat out Fran Vazquez style (which he never was gonna do) and they would've retained his draft rights forever.