Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Possible DJ Augustin pg 64

RiotPunch · Post #1621 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:51 am

LuessiT wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:So much depends on what you wanted Wes for. As a starting two or even part of your top 7, he was washed. If he would be sort of a 9th-10th man guy, he'd be great. Lakers obviously promised him more time.

That's fair. I certainly would not be advocating for him to start again. His value on defense just tends to be overlooked and undervalued around here. Creates a perimeter stopper hole, as you probably want Jrue/Midds to have enough in the tank to be effective on offense.

I'm pretty sure you want him to start. Not playing starter minutes, but playing with the starters. And especially playing versus the starters. Wes is at his worst when he has to make decisions on offense so you want to minimize that. And on defense he's best guarding the ball versus wings.

Yeah maybe, I'd definitely want him to close though. If we had him closing on Jimmy instead of Khris or gimpy Giannis, that series *might* have gone differently.

glenn · Post #1622 » by **glenn** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:51 am

Love Wes but he’s dead to me

giannis and 1 · Post #1623 » by **giannis and 1** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:52 am

MiltownHawkeye wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:
MiltownHawkeye wrote:I wonder if the Hawks still plan on pursuing Bogdan.

Bogdan signed their offer. It's up to Sac to match or not.

Oops, I missed that he actually signed the offer sheet.

EDIT: Or didnt?

Hold up I may be jumping the gun. The tweet read "expected to sign" the Hawks offer. I assumed that it was pretty much done between those 2 sides and that now Sacramento had to decide whether to match or not. If they match, they could look to trade him...

blazza18 · Post #1624 » by **blazza18** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:53 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
MiltownHawkeye wrote:Were people particularly high on Wes before he suited up for us? Did anyone think he was gonna be this important wing defender and floor spacer?

yes?

Coming off a bad year previously? I think not.

thrice123 · Post #1625 » by **thrice123** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:53 am

DDV is liking everyones comments saying they never wanted him gone and are happy he's back. So maybe it won't be awkward....

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giannis and 1 · Post #1626 » by **giannis and 1** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:53 am

**** Wes for signing with the Lakers of all teams. I thought he was an adequate glue guy as the starting 2 and wanted him back. I can understand him leaving for more money but the lakers? **** off.

LuessiT · Post #1627 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:53 am

RiotPunch wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:That's fair. I certainly would not be advocating for him to start again. His value on defense just tends to be overlooked and undervalued around here. Creates a perimeter stopper hole, as you probably want Jrue/Midds to have enough in the tank to be effective on offense.

I'm pretty sure you want him to start. Not playing starter minutes, but playing with the starters. And especially playing versus the starters. Wes is at his worst when he has to make decisions on offense so you want to minimize that. And on defense he's best guarding the ball versus wings.

Yeah maybe, I'd definitely want him to close though. If we had him closing on Jimmy instead of Khris or gimpy Giannis, that series *might* have gone differently.

Don't remember me. I'm still livid about argueing with posters about Giannis guarding Butler vs Wes Matthews guarding Butler after game 1.

giannis and 1 · Post #1628 » by **giannis and 1** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:54 am

blazza18 wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
MiltownHawkeye wrote:Were people particularly high on Wes before he suited up for us? Did anyone think he was gonna be this important wing defender and floor spacer?

yes?

Coming off a bad year previously? I think not.

I wasn't a fan of his until I actually watched him play.

RiotPunch · Post #1629 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:54 am

LuessiT wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
I'm pretty sure you want him to start. Not playing starter minutes, but playing with the starters. And especially playing versus the starters. Wes is at his worst when he has to make decisions on offense so you want to minimize that. And on defense he's best guarding the ball versus wings.

Yeah maybe, I'd definitely want him to close though. If we had him closing on Jimmy instead of Khris or gimpy Giannis, that series *might* have gone differently.

Don't remember me. I'm still livid about argueing with posters about Giannis guarding Butler vs Wes Matthews guarding Butler after game 1.

Oh, I remember. I know you don't need convincing. Lol.

Coach Carter · Post #1630 » by **Coach Carter** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:55 am

thrice123 wrote:DDV is liking everyones comments saying they never wanted him gone and are happy he's back. So maybe it won't be awkward....

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I think he understands that horst was just trying to improve the team. He can use this as motivation to improve his game.

M-C-G · Post #1631 » by **M-C-G** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:55 am

Let’s bring in OJ Mayo on a vet min.

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Post #1632 » by **paulpressey25** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:55 am

PG Graveyard wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:20m for Gallo until he’s 35yrs old? Gotta be front loaded or something. Barf. Market value is just insane these days...

Especially in the pandemic I thought money may be down.

What's happening is the league and players agreed on an 18% holdback escrow for this year and another 18% holdback for next year. (someone correct me if I'm off on this).

So if player X contract calls for $10 million this year and $10 million next year, he will likely only get $8.2 million each season. Now if league revenues come in higher, he'd collect additional money, and maybe the whole $10 million. But for the moment, these contract numbers aren't what they'll actually get paid next year, most likely.

LuessiT · Post #1633 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:55 am

Read on Twitter

Surprising but good for him.

RosinBag · Post #1634 » by **RosinBag** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:56 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
MiltownHawkeye wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:Bogdan signed their offer. It's up to Sac to match or not.

Oops, I missed that he actually signed the offer sheet.

EDIT: Or didnt?

Hold up I may be jumping the gun. The tweet read "expected to sign" the Hawks offer. I assumed that it was pretty much done between those 2 sides and that now Sacramento had to decide whether to match or not. If they match, they could look to trade him...

Can't match an offer sheet and then trade immediately. Would have to wait till the trade deadline I think

Baddy Chuck · Post #1635 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:58 am

LuessiT wrote:

Read on Twitter

Surprising but good for him.

Interested to see how this one plays out. I didn't think he'd amount to much but he played well in Detroit.

LuessiT · Post #1636 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:59 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
LuessiT wrote:

Read on Twitter

Surprising but good for him.

Interested to see how this one plays out. I didn't think he'd amount to much but he played well in Detroit.

I thought he'd get more but for a guy who hasn't really made a dime yet he probably was more than happy to lock that in now.

xTitan · Post #1637 » by **xTitan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:59 am

Have a feeling Houston is headed for some darker days

giannis and 1 · Post #1638 » by **giannis and 1** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:00 am

LuessiT wrote:

Read on Twitter

Surprising but good for him.

This should be us

Nowak008 · Post #1639 » by **Nowak008** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:01 am

randy84 wrote:Brandon Knight. Bucks bring it full circle.

All in for that. He has one more good season in him.

Baddy Chuck · Post #1640 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:02 am

Nowak008 wrote:
randy84 wrote:Brandon Knight. Bucks bring it full circle.

All in for that. He has one more good season in him.

He had a good season?