2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1

egelband · Post #21 » by **egelband** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:26 pm

robillionaire wrote:
egelband wrote:Random question. But why are second rounders so valueless in the nba? In the nhl where there are only 5 more players per roster, picks down to the third and fourth round are considered valuable. Maybe more rhetorical than anything, but I’ve wondered this for a while.

because 98% of them bust out of the nba

I definitely think development is an issue. Very few teams seem to develop players beyond the very basics.

knickstape4ever · Post #22 » by **knickstape4ever** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:44 pm

egelband wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
egelband wrote:Random question. But why are second rounders so valueless in the nba? In the nhl where there are only 5 more players per roster, picks down to the third and fourth round are considered valuable. Maybe more rhetorical than anything, but I’ve wondered this for a while.

because 98% of them bust out of the nba

I definitely think development is an issue. Very few teams seem to develop players beyond the very basics.

Macri wrote an article about the success rate of 2nd rounders (can't seem to find it unfortunately). basically picks 30-45ish are ok/solid, but beyond that it's pretty bad

El Poochio · Post #23 » by **El Poochio** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:41 am

(dont make me fold the chair back)

knickstape4ever · Post #24 » by **knickstape4ever** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:25 am

refreshing tankathon, hoping they update it for 2021

Post #25 » by **moocow007** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:33 am

egelband wrote:Random question. But why are second rounders so valueless in the nba? In the nhl where there are only 5 more players per roster, picks down to the third and fourth round are considered valuable. Maybe more rhetorical than anything, but I’ve wondered this for a while.

NBA rosters allow for the least number of players. NBA rotations has the least number of players. NBA teams more than any other professional team sport, rely on a small number of players in that rotation to carry the bulk of the load. At any given time the NBA allows the least number of player to play at the same time.

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egelband · Post #26 » by **egelband** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:31 pm

moocow007 wrote:
egelband wrote:Random question. But why are second rounders so valueless in the nba? In the nhl where there are only 5 more players per roster, picks down to the third and fourth round are considered valuable. Maybe more rhetorical than anything, but I’ve wondered this for a while.
NBA rosters allow for the least number of players. NBA rotations has the least number of players. NBA teams more than any other professional team sport, rely on a small number of players in that rotation to carry the bulk of the load. At any given time the NBA allows the least number of player to play at the same time.

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I get that. But it’s just five fewer players per roster compared to the NHL. And so many more people globally play basketball than ice hockey. Still seem out of whack.

I guess my point is, if we can find and develop players, talent should be out there.

Jstock12 · Post #27 » by **Jstock12** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:11 pm

Looking forward to seeing my boy Tubelis wreak havoc for Arizona at the center position.

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Fat Kat · Post #28 » by **Fat Kat** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:25 pm

A long, arduous thread that itself is separate from basketball. Culminated by either the disappointment of the lottery results, or a difference in opinion between the team and the serious Youtube scouts.

knickstape4ever · Post #29 » by **knickstape4ever** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:43 pm

it's here.....tankathon 2021!

robillionaire · Post #30 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:48 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:it's here.....tankathon 2021!

nice

http://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

knickstape4ever · Post #31 » by **knickstape4ever** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:16 pm

Read on Twitter

BJ Boston folks.....BJ Boston!!!!

Fat · Post #32 » by **Fat** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:04 am

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Tron Carter · Post #33 » by **Tron Carter** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:46 pm

This is my new safe space

Boston gives me Brandon Ingram vibes

DaGawd · Post #34 » by **DaGawd** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:29 pm

Entirely too many Jalens incoming

EMG518 · Post #35 » by **EMG518** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:15 pm

Jstock12 wrote:Looking forward to seeing my boy Tubelis wreak havoc for Arizona at the center position.

Watch on YouTube

Can he shoot and how big is he?

ibraheim718 · Post #36 » by **ibraheim718** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:33 pm

IQ off the charts.. big rangy point guard 6'7" great body control.. great poise with the ball.. Top shelf playmaker and passer... can finish.. shooting is getting better. Handle needs a little more work.. jumper some refining. But he's everything Knicks fans have always wanted. Whatever team he goes to will be fasttracked for the playoffs and contention IF that team has a few good auxiliary pieces for a PG.. like Toppin Robinson and Barrett. You know who I'm talking about.

Post #37 » by **DOT** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:48 pm

Looking forward to hyping up the top picks all year only for us to end with the 4th worst record and drop to 7.

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RHODEY · Post #38 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:18 am

K-DOT wrote:Looking forward to hyping up the top picks all year only for us to end with the 4th worst record and drop to 7.

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Next draft is supposed to go ten deep at least with potential allstars....so it wont matter.

ibraheim718 · Post #39 » by **ibraheim718** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:08 am

K-DOT wrote:Looking forward to hyping up the top picks all year only for us to end with the 4th worst record and drop to 7.

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Come on kdot. Let's turn that attitude around. It can't hurt.

3toheadmelo · Post #40 » by **3toheadmelo** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:15 am

ibraheim718 wrote:IQ off the charts.. big rangy point guard 6'7" great body control.. great poise with the ball.. Top shelf playmaker and passer... can finish.. shooting is getting better. Handle needs a little more work.. jumper some refining. But he's everything Knicks fans have always wanted. Whatever team he goes to will be fasttracked for the playoffs and contention IF that team has a few good auxiliary pieces for a PG.. like Toppin Robinson and Barrett. You know who I'm talking about.

Jalen Johnson from Duke is another guy I like. 6’9 point forward

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