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adam10 · Post #141 » by **adam10** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:00 pm

How much cap space do we have and what’s the most we can pay KCP?

WeekapaugGroove · Post #142 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:01 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:What are the Pelicans doing with adams?

This was a puzzling move. The basically ended up trading 24 for that final year of his giant contract. I get they have a million picks but seems like a waste.

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machu46 · Post #143 » by **machu46** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:03 pm

adam10 wrote:How much cap space do we have and what’s the most we can pay KCP?

$9.5 mil.

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ShootingtheJ · Post #144 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:03 pm

adam10 wrote:How much cap space do we have?

0, but we have the $9.3 million MLE and the $3.7 million BAE.

Baddy Chuck · Post #145 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:04 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:What are the Pelicans doing with adams?
This was a puzzling move. The basically ended up trading 24 for that final year of his giant contract. I get they have a million picks but seems like a waste.

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I dunno Adams is a pretty good player. Get a good look at him next Zion and maybe got a center you can resign for the foreseeable future. He's been around but he's still only 27 and has a lot of miles left.

adam10 · Post #146 » by **adam10** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:04 pm

machu46 wrote:
adam10 wrote:How much cap space do we have and what’s the most we can pay KCP?

$9.5 mil.

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Wow. Yikes.

drone3 · Post #147 » by **drone3** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:04 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:
Sigra wrote:Anyway, we still need starting SG and reserve big. What is left on market?

Avery Bradley and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. KCP will get overpaid but the Bucks have to try to impress Giannis with the MLE. Avery Bradley hasn't been good for several years, but in the right situation maybe he can recapture that consummate glue guy magic he had with the Celtics, the same way Crowder did last year with the Heat.

It's a bad situation. I would kill to have Hill back. He could back-up Holiday or play alongside either him or DDV.

George Hill was so good for us, perfect fit. Including Hill in the Jrue trade was pretty stupid.

adam10 · Post #148 » by **adam10** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:08 pm

Hill was superb for us, and right now with this current roster like mentioned before he a more than ideal fit with DVD and Jrue.

We overpaid for Jrue clearly, we’ve have got in a great player who will make us better but it’s really hard to see it with any light after the Bogdan shambles and now limited cap space

MiCo7 · Post #149 » by **MiCo7** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:09 pm

I dont get some of the responses on Pat. We all know what Pat does. He's a regular season bench player. Hopefully the roster can be constructed where he doesn't get mins in the playoffs or Bud doesn't use him much unless the team is sucking, needs a jolt, or Patty is doing well at the time.

Why is this bad or are ppl complaining just to complain? At least its not even close to Delly Telly Snelly Henson money?

Idk, I just say meh, nice to see Patty C back.

Badgerlander wrote:Ugh, I’d love Pat if he didn’t suck at basketball. Guess we get to watch him dribble the ball off his butt again

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LittleRooster · Post #150 » by **LittleRooster** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:11 pm

Think I’d rather have Matthews instead of Pat

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MiCo7 · Post #151 » by **MiCo7** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:12 pm

I agree with the George Hill comments. Unless there is a plan, we need alot right now.....lol and DJ Augustin is not the full answer to what we need.

drone3 wrote:
coolhandluke121 wrote:
Sigra wrote:Anyway, we still need starting SG and reserve big. What is left on market?

Avery Bradley and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. KCP will get overpaid but the Bucks have to try to impress Giannis with the MLE. Avery Bradley hasn't been good for several years, but in the right situation maybe he can recapture that consummate glue guy magic he had with the Celtics, the same way Crowder did last year with the Heat.

It's a bad situation. I would kill to have Hill back. He could back-up Holiday or play alongside either him or DDV.
George Hill was so good for us, perfect fit. Including Hill in the Jrue trade was pretty stupid.

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MiCo7 · Post #152 » by **MiCo7** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:13 pm

100 percent fair statement

LittleRooster wrote:Think I’d rather have Matthews instead of Pat

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WRau1 · Post #153 » by **WRau1** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:13 pm

I think the issue with the PatC signing is there is so many holes we need to address and he does nothing for that except filling out the bench. Pat is a good guy to have if you already have your 7-8 man rotation set.

Chapter29 · Post #154 » by **Chapter29** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:14 pm

Pat is an energy bench player who has improved his shooting enough to really earn this IMO. He is also a great guy and fits very well from a chemistry perspective.

ShootingtheJ · Post #155 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:14 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:What are the Pelicans doing with adams?
This was a puzzling move. The basically ended up trading 24 for that final year of his giant contract. I get they have a million picks but seems like a waste.

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I dunno Adams is a pretty good player. Get a good look at him next Zion and maybe got a center you can resign for the foreseeable future. He's been around but he's still only 27 and has a lot of miles left.

All true, but they continue to have massive floor spacing issues. Also, you can make a pretty good argument that Zion should be there center.

Baddy Chuck · Post #156 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:15 pm

I think it's pretty apparent that Wes simply chose to sign with the Lakers. I'm sure the Bucks would rather have him then Pat too.

MiCo7 · Post #157 » by **MiCo7** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:15 pm

So does the Patty C signing prevent us from further setting 7-8? Does his 4 million salary mess with us signing other players?

WRau1 wrote:I think the issue with the PatC signing is there is so many holes we need to address and he does nothing for that except filling out the bench. Pat is a good guy to have if you already have your 7-8 man rotation set.

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Baddy Chuck · Post #158 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:16 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:This was a puzzling move. The basically ended up trading 24 for that final year of his giant contract. I get they have a million picks but seems like a waste.

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I dunno Adams is a pretty good player. Get a good look at him next Zion and maybe got a center you can resign for the foreseeable future. He's been around but he's still only 27 and has a lot of miles left.

All true, but they continue to have massive floor spacing issues. Also, you can make a pretty good argument that Zion should be there center.

I'll continue to be of the belief that center Zion falls apart eventually.

ShootingtheJ · Post #159 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:16 pm

If the Bucks, who have repeatedly chased Covington, don't sign his much cheaper clone, Greg Whittington, I'm going to be even more annoyed than I already am.

Also, any word on Chuck?

Garbs_7 · Post #160 » by **Garbs_7** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:17 pm

midranger wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
midranger wrote:This seems like it’s going to be an unrecoverable disaster.

In fairness they got an impact player (Jrue). Probably the most impactful player they've acquired via trade since........fill in the blank, I can't remember.

The issue is that they gave up an unprecedented four years of drafts, four years into the future. So yes, if none of this works out, I fully expect the Lasry's to sell 51% control of the team to some guy in Seattle for one billion. They'd then use that money to pay off the arena debt ($250mm) per terms of the lease.

No doubt.

If Giannis bounces, this team is gone.

It’d be an aging team with no young assets or draft pick for 7(!) years into the future. It’d be bleak as hell. No way investment guys from New York don’t wash their hands of the mess they made and cash out.

At the same time, it's not that hard to acquire 1sts quickly again, look at OKC. Say Giannis left, we could flip Mids to a contender and take on a bad contract and get an absolute haul of picks and maybe a young asset. A lot of teams would love Middleton in their title push. Could flip Brook for another pick and then Jrue for a package too, maybe not as much as we gave up for him, but a couple 1sts at least.

You then be the team that takes on bad contracts and gets assets for it like OKC and you're suddenly flush with picks again.

Saying all this if Giannis is gone, life is pointless and I won't care about the NBA for a long time , if ever again at least to this extent.